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Liberal Veteran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-13-04 02:32 PM
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Wishy-washy pro-lifers piss me off.
You know the ones I am talking about. They believe abortion should be totally illegal except in cases involving rape or incest.

Ask them why and they say abortion is murder.


Which begs the question: If it's murder to abort a pregnancy that is the result of consensual sex, how on earth is not murder to abort a pregnancy in cases that are non-consenual?

I don't understand for the life of me how ANYONE who believes abortion is murder (which I do not, btw) can be so intellectually dishonest as to believe that somehow the method of conception makes it "not murder".
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Midlodemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-13-04 02:33 PM
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1. I totally agree with you. Either you are pro life for everyone or not.
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DemBones DemBones Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-13-04 02:39 PM
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2. I don't think they believe abortion is not murder when it involves

a pregnancy begun by rape or incest. I think they consider it a sad situation in which homicide of the fetus may be justifiable to spare the mother the ordeal of birthing a child conceived through rape or incest and because the offspring of such fathers may have birth defects or STDs. If a woman is raped or forced to have incestuous sex, she did not choose to have sex with that man, much less to conceive his child. In all other pregnancies, a woman did choose to have sex with a man and thus conceived his child.
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Liberal Veteran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-13-04 02:42 PM
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3. Is there a statute of limitations on when you can exercise your option?
Edited on Sat Nov-13-04 02:45 PM by liberal_veteran
You know...like if you decide to give birth to the fetus and 3 years later you change you mind, can you still abort?

I still think it's intellectually dishonest. The entire argument smacks of equivocation and/or punishing women for what they see as improper choices rather than actual concern for human life.

Blaming the fetus for the method in which it is conceived seems like an odd argument to me.
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Kipepeo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-13-04 02:45 PM
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5. There are two issues I have with that line of reasoning
(I know it's not yours...I'm just responding to the argument in general)

1) They think they get to decide when the *ordeal* of the mother *justifies* what they consider to be murder of a fetus.

2) They think of children as punishment for sex. If it was consensual, then you've got to be punished...face the consequences, all of that kind of talk. Weird.
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SpecialK84 Donating Member (55 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-13-04 02:43 PM
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4. I agree, that is such a hypocritical arguement.
Although, I think Pro-Life and Pro-Choice are way too black & white for me. I'm neither, or both, depending on how you look at it.

I'm pro-LIFE because I think Life is (almost always) preferable to death (even if it is just potential life). Still, it shouldn't be illegal ... but it should be avoided (through education, contreception and protection!) and yet, I'm Pro-CHOICE because I believe, regardless, abortion IS a woman's choice.




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Hello_Kitty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-13-04 03:02 PM
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6. Yep. It's not about 'life' at all
It's always about controlling the sexual behavior of women.
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