grasswire
(1000+ posts)
Send PM |
Profile |
Ignore
|
Fri Nov-19-04 05:48 PM
Original message |
Wolf: "Clinton does not understand the news media" |
|
"We were just reporting the information that came to us."
He's going on and on about how the media's coverage of Clinton was justified.
Lanny Davis is telling the truth about the whole thing. Blitzer is in denial.
|
Ducks In A Row
(1000+ posts)
Send PM |
Profile |
Ignore
|
Fri Nov-19-04 05:49 PM
Response to Original message |
1. Wolf is only there because of a mistake Clinton made |
|
de-regulating the media. Clinton admitted it to Randi Rhodes.
|
nothingshocksmeanymore
(1000+ posts)
Send PM |
Profile |
Ignore
|
Fri Nov-19-04 05:50 PM
Response to Original message |
2. Yeah and we were just reporting what O'Neill told us |
emulatorloo
(1000+ posts)
Send PM |
Profile |
Ignore
|
Fri Nov-19-04 06:32 PM
Response to Reply #2 |
19. Yet they wouldn't report what Paul O'Neill and Richard Clarke told them |
|
and if they did it was always thru the "disgruntled" filter.
|
sangh0
(1000+ posts)
Send PM |
Profile |
Ignore
|
Fri Nov-19-04 05:51 PM
Original message |
|
because the evidence clearly indicates that a large majority of Americans think that Bill was treated miserably by the media. That's why Clinton's #'s went UP at the height of the impeachment hearings.
|
aquart
(1000+ posts)
Send PM |
Profile |
Ignore
|
Fri Nov-19-04 05:51 PM
Response to Original message |
3. So journalism is entirely passive, Wolf? |
|
You merely receive what comes to you? And how do you know what comes is truthful???
|
PROGRESSIVE1
(1000+ posts)
Send PM |
Profile |
Ignore
|
Fri Nov-19-04 05:51 PM
Response to Original message |
4. What about Bush, Leslie? |
slor
(1000+ posts)
Send PM |
Profile |
Ignore
|
Fri Nov-19-04 05:51 PM
Response to Original message |
|
boom mike, I hate him! He does not understand truth-telling.
|
glitch
(1000+ posts)
Send PM |
Profile |
Ignore
|
Fri Nov-19-04 05:52 PM
Response to Original message |
6. How would he know? He's an entertainer! And not a very good one. nt |
Plausible
(386 posts)
Send PM |
Profile |
Ignore
|
Fri Nov-19-04 05:55 PM
Response to Original message |
7. wolf is a Repug lap dog |
|
Sit up Wolf Wag your tail Wolf Lie Wolf Roll over Wolf Fetch Wolf Sic Dems Wolf
|
glarius
(1000+ posts)
Send PM |
Profile |
Ignore
|
Fri Nov-19-04 05:55 PM
Response to Original message |
8. Blitzer did his usual fact twisting by saying that what Clinton was angry |
|
about was the media reporting on the facts re Monica.... in fact, CLINTON WAS MAD ABOUT THE WHITEWATER AND OTHER LIES THAT WERE REPORTED ad nauseum....I never see Wolfie interupt a Republican the way he did Lanny....disgusting!
|
DELUSIONAL
(1000+ posts)
Send PM |
Profile |
Ignore
|
Fri Nov-19-04 05:58 PM
Response to Original message |
9. Clinton's remarks to Jennings hit the mark! |
|
Good -- hopefully this shows other democrats the need to show backbone!
|
cybildisobedience
(1000+ posts)
Send PM |
Profile |
Ignore
|
Fri Nov-19-04 05:59 PM
Response to Original message |
|
I've been off the whole tv news things since the election, but I happened to catch a glimpse of Clinton talking to Peter Jennings. Then I had to hang around and watch Lanny "I'm so glad that George Bush branded me" Davis NOT fight back. As usual, Davis was weak and ineffectual, and could have put Blitzer on his ass with one line: If telling the truth is so important that it had to be investigated for six years and cost $70 million, why don't you hold Bush to the same standard?
|
Tomee450
(1000+ posts)
Send PM |
Profile |
Ignore
|
Fri Nov-19-04 06:23 PM
Response to Reply #10 |
|
problems with the Democrats. Their representative are too polite and almost always ineffective.
|
eShirl
(1000+ posts)
Send PM |
Profile |
Ignore
|
Fri Nov-19-04 06:00 PM
Response to Original message |
11. uh, Wolf, that was his point |
|
once upon a time, the news media didn't act like the town gossip
|
newyawker99
(1000+ posts)
Send PM |
Profile |
Ignore
|
Sat Nov-20-04 10:06 AM
Response to Reply #11 |
grasswire
(1000+ posts)
Send PM |
Profile |
Ignore
|
Fri Nov-19-04 06:01 PM
Response to Original message |
12. I'll post the transcript... |
|
...when it becomes available.
In fact, I'm going to collect instances of new media attacks on Clinton.
|
evilqueen
(1000+ posts)
Send PM |
Profile |
Ignore
|
Fri Nov-19-04 06:05 PM
Response to Original message |
13. these aren't journalists, they're actors |
|
mere talking heads. Jon Stewart isn't afraid to tell them either. And it looks like Letterman is finally figuring it out, too.
The network fog will soon burn away like a bad nightmare. They will be obsolete, just like betamax and 8-track.
|
sandnsea
(1000+ posts)
Send PM |
Profile |
Ignore
|
Fri Nov-19-04 06:22 PM
Response to Reply #13 |
|
Not even talented enough to be actors.
|
KittyWampus
(1000+ posts)
Send PM |
Profile |
Ignore
|
Fri Nov-19-04 06:29 PM
Response to Reply #14 |
16. Newsmodels... Did You Just Coin That Phrase Yourself? |
sandnsea
(1000+ posts)
Send PM |
Profile |
Ignore
|
Fri Nov-19-04 06:53 PM
Response to Reply #16 |
|
A few months ago, I use it whenever I can. Because that's what they are. I have never seen such a bunch of empty-headed dimwits in my life as what passes for reporters on cable news.
|
evilqueen
(1000+ posts)
Send PM |
Profile |
Ignore
|
Fri Nov-19-04 06:29 PM
Response to Reply #14 |
17. "newsmodels"... I like that! |
Spazito
(1000+ posts)
Send PM |
Profile |
Ignore
|
Fri Nov-19-04 06:29 PM
Response to Original message |
18. Every time I think I couldn't be more disgusted with Blitzer and CNN... |
|
lo and behold, they do or say something that proves me wrong. I have been boycotting CNN since their 'shock and awe' orgasm but do read what other posters say about their decline in credibility to that which is lower than the basest tabloid.
|
spanone
(1000+ posts)
Send PM |
Profile |
Ignore
|
Fri Nov-19-04 06:47 PM
Response to Original message |
20. Bill Clinton is my Hero. Fuck the Media. |
Dyedinthewoolliberal
(1000+ posts)
Send PM |
Profile |
Ignore
|
Fri Nov-19-04 06:56 PM
Response to Original message |
|
that's EXACTLY the problem! You reported what was told to you. You never investigated to verify the validity of the information... Geez these guys really piss me off!!!!!!!! Where's Edward R. Murrow when we need him?
|
Democat
(1000+ posts)
Send PM |
Profile |
Ignore
|
Fri Nov-19-04 07:25 PM
Response to Original message |
23. He is probably right - they just repeat what the Republicans tell them to |
|
They don't "report" anything, they repeat what the Republicans who own their companies tell them to report.
Clinton and Democrats have begun to understand how it works - there is no reporting, only propaganda for the right. We expected fairness, but the companies that own the media hate the left and support the right so there will never be fairness.
|
ibegurpard
(1000+ posts)
Send PM |
Profile |
Ignore
|
Fri Nov-19-04 07:29 PM
Response to Original message |
24. So, Wolf, you admit that you are a STENOGRAPHER and not a JOURNALIST |
|
glad to see that we've cleared that up.
|
MO_Dem
(1000+ posts)
Send PM |
Profile |
Ignore
|
Fri Nov-19-04 09:18 PM
Response to Reply #24 |
25. Well said, ibegurped! |
|
And, you'd think by now that Leslie would have gotten therapy for his obsession with Bill Clinton and Monica.
|
Garbo 2004
(1000+ posts)
Send PM |
Profile |
Ignore
|
Fri Nov-19-04 10:06 PM
Response to Reply #24 |
28. Yup, on the one hand they want to be the great fourth estate, |
|
bringing the truth to the masses; however, when called on not doing that job, they turn out to just be amplification machines, repeating what others say, without judgment or analysis.
That means anyone can do that job. Might as well replace Wolf with someone better looking with fewer pretensions.
|
Stinky The Clown
(1000+ posts)
Send PM |
Profile |
Ignore
|
Fri Nov-19-04 09:59 PM
Response to Original message |
26. Fuck You Leslie Blitzer |
|
Every time i see any post about this guy, my response is the same ......
Fuck You Leslie Blitzer
You scum sucking sell-out piece of shit, lazy, fat ass, do-nothing, stenographer .... try sniffing out some actual news, you fuckwad. No wonder you have that beard ...... can't face yourself in the mirror? Do you know why you can't sniff out a real news story? Too much ass mung in your nose from kissing right wing butt.
I hope you rot in hell, you lying sack of dog shit.
Oh ..... and have a nice day :hi:
|
muse
(1000+ posts)
Send PM |
Profile |
Ignore
|
Fri Nov-19-04 10:01 PM
Response to Original message |
27. Wolf is a robotic reporter, so this statement defines him as a reporter. |
lilfroggy
(185 posts)
Send PM |
Profile |
Ignore
|
Fri Nov-19-04 10:07 PM
Response to Original message |
29. Wolf Dicker can go to hell |
|
Right along with Fucker Carlson...
|
AmerDem
(1000+ posts)
Send PM |
Profile |
Ignore
|
Fri Nov-19-04 10:13 PM
Response to Original message |
30. I want the pics of Blitzer to come out of him in his dress |
|
Everytime I watch that guy I see these deep dark secrets in his nervous eyes and expressions.
|
SoCalDem
(1000+ posts)
Send PM |
Profile |
Ignore
|
Sat Nov-20-04 10:26 AM
Response to Reply #30 |
33. Here he is OUT of his dress |
Skinner
ADMIN
(1000+ posts)
Send PM |
Profile |
Ignore
|
Sat Nov-20-04 10:25 AM
Response to Original message |
32. Actually... Wolf's comment is very telling. |
|
Edited on Sat Nov-20-04 10:26 AM by Skinner
And here's what sucks the most about it: Wolf is right. Clinton, and Democrats, don't understand the news media.
Our problem is that we Democrats still cling to the anachonistic notion that the media actually has some sense of ethics. Our party and our candidates believe that the media has a sense of fairness, and wants to act as the arbiter of what is true and what is important.
This is, of course, ridiculous, and it's high time that Democrats start to recognize this. The media has no interest in making those sorts of judgements. As Jon Stewart pointed out, the media's bias is in favor of the most sensational stories. The Lewinsky scandal was completely unimportant, but it was extremely sensational.
We will continue to get our asses handed to us if we do not learn to play the media game. The Republicans know how to hightlight the sensational, the hot-button. Democrats keep thinking that we can win by being honest, and by focusing on "important" issues.
Wolf knows that this is a loser's strategy, and he is saying so. If we learned anything this year, it is that lying is better than telling the truth, because the media is AFRAID to act as the arbiter of truth. Just ask the swiftliars. The media repeated their lies, precisely because LIES ARE SENSATIONAL. But the media did not feel that they had any responsibility to discern truth from falsehood.
LYING. It's the wave of the future. And no, I'm not joking.
|
DU
AdBot (1000+ posts) |
Thu May 16th 2024, 12:45 PM
Response to Original message |