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bowens43 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-02-05 09:12 AM
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Senator Byrd on the “nuclear option”
http://byrd.senate.gov/byrd_speeches/byrd_speeches_2005_march/byrd_speeches_03012005.html

Senator Byrd delivered the remarks below warning the Senate and the American people about a procedural effort being considered by some Senators to shut off debate and shut down minority voices and opinions. Byrd believes that such an effort strikes at the very heart of the Senate -- the freedom of speech and debate.

In 1939, one of the most famous American movies of all time, “Mr. Smith Goes to Washington,” hit the box office. Initially received with a combination of lavish praise and angry blasts, the film went on to win numerous awards, and to inspire millions around the globe. The director, the legendary Frank Capra, in his autobiography “Frank Capra: The Name Above the Title,” cites this moving review of the film, appearing in “The Hollywood Reporter,” November 4, 1942:

Frank Capra’s “Mr. Smith Goes to Washington,” chosen by French Theaters as the final English language film to be shown before the recent Nazi-ordered countrywide ban on American and British films went into effect, was roundly cheered...

Storms of spontaneous applause broke out at the sequence when, under the Abraham Lincoln monument in the Capital, the word, “Liberty,” appeared on the screen and the Stars and Stripes began fluttering over the head of the great Emancipator in the cause of liberty.

Similarly cheers and acclamation punctuated the famous speech of the young senator on man’s rights and dignity. ‘It was... as though the joys, suffering, love and hatred, the hopes and wishes of an entire people who value freedom above everything, found expression for the last time....

For those who may not have seen it, “Mr. Smith” is the fictional story of one young Senator’s crusade against forces of corruption, and his lengthy filibuster for the values he holds dear.

My, how times have changed. These days Smith would be called “an obstructionist.” Rumor has it that there is a plot afoot in the Senate to curtail the right of extended debate in this hallowed chamber, not in accordance with its rules, mind you, but by fiat from the Chair.

The so-called “nuclear option” purports to be directed solely at the Senate’s advice and consent prerogatives regarding federal judges. But, the claim that no right exists to filibuster judges aims an arrow straight at the heart of the Senate’s long tradition of unlimited debate.

The Framers of the Constitution envisioned the Senate as a kind of executive council; a small body of legislators, featuring longer terms, designed to insulate members from the passions of the day.

The Senate was to serve as a “check” on the Executive Branch, particularly in the areas of appointments and treaties, where, under the Constitution, the Senate passes judgement absent the House of Representatives. James Madison wanted to grant the Senate the power to select judicial appointees with the Executive relegated to the sidelines. But a compromise brought the present arrangement; appointees selected by the Executive, with the advice and consent of the Senate. Note that nowhere in the Constitution is a vote on appointments mandated.

When it comes to the Senate, numbers can deceive. The Senate was never intended to be a majoritarian body. That was the role of the House of Representatives, with its membership based on the populations of states. The Great Compromise of July 16, 1787, satisfied the need for smaller states to have equal status in one House of Congress: the Senate.

The Senate, with its two members per state, regardless of population is, then, the forum of the states. Indeed, in the last Congress, 52 members, a majority, representing the 26 smallest states accounted for just 17.06% of the U.S. population. In other words, a majority in the Senate does not necessarily represent a majority of the population. The Senate is intended for deliberation not point scoring. It is a place designed from its inception, as expressive of minority views. Even 60 Senators, the number required for cloture, would represent just 24% of the population, if they happened to all hail from the 30 smallest states. Unfettered debate, the right to be heard at length, is the means by which we perpetuate the equality of the states.

In fact, it was 1917, before any curtailing of debate was attempted, which means that from 1806 to 1917, some 111 years, the Senate rejected any limits to debate. Democracy flourished along with the filibuster. The first actual cloture rule in 1917, was enacted in response to a filibuster by those who opposed U.S. intervention in World War I.

But, even after its enactment, the Senate was slow to embrace cloture, understanding the pitfalls of muzzling debate. In 1949, the 1917 cloture rule was modified to make cloture more difficult to invoke, not less, mandating that the number needed to stop debate would be not two-thirds of those present and voting, but two-thirds of all Senators.

Indeed, from 1919 to 1962, the Senate voted on cloture petitions only 27 times and invoked cloture just four times over those 43 years.

On January 4, 1957, Senator William Ezra Jenner of Indiana spoke in opposition to invoking cloture by majority vote. He stated with conviction:

We may have a duty to legislate, but we also have a duty to inform and deliberate. In the past quarter century we have seen a phenomenal growth in the power of the executive branch. If this continues at such a fast pace, our system of checks and balances will be destroyed. One of the main bulwarks against this growing power is free debate in the Senate . . . So long as there is free debate, men of courage and understanding will rise to defend against potential dictators. . .The Senate today is one place where, no matter what else may exist, there is still a chance to be heard, an opportunity to speak, the duty to examine, and the obligation to protect. It is one of the few refuges of democracy. Minorities have an illustrious past, full of suffering, torture, smear, and even death. Jesus Christ was killed by a majority; Columbus was smeared; and Christians have been tortured. Had the United States Senate existed during those trying times, I am sure these people would have found an advocate. Nowhere else can any political, social, or religious group, finding itself under sustained attack, receive a better refuge.

Senator Jenner was right. The Senate was deliberately conceived to be what he called a “better refuge,” meaning one styled as guardian of the rights of the minority.

The Senate is the “watchdog” because majorities can be wrong, and filibusters can highlight injustices. History is full of examples.

In March 1911, Senator Robert Owen of Oklahoma filibustered the New Mexico statehood bill, arguing that Arizona should also be allowed to become a state. President Taft opposed the inclusion of Arizona’s statehood in the bill because Arizona’s state constitution allowed the recall of judges. Arizona attained statehood a year later, at least in part because Senator Owen and the minority took time to make their point the year before.

In 1914, a Republican minority led a 10-day filibuster of a bill that would have appropriated more than $50,000,000 for rivers and harbors. On an issue near and dear to the hearts of our current majority, Republican opponents spoke until members of the Commerce Committee agreed to cut the appropriations by more than half.

Perhaps more directly relevant to our discussion of the “nuclear option” are the seven days in 1937, from July 6 to 13 of that year, when the Senate blocked Franklin Roosevelt’s Supreme Court-packing plan.

Earlier that year, in February 1937, FDR sent the Congress a bill drastically reorganizing the judiciary. The Senate Judiciary Committee rejected the bill, calling it “ an invasion of judicial power such as has never before been attempted in this country” and finding it “essential to the continuance of our constitutional democracy that the judiciary be completely independent of both the executive and legislative branches of the Government.” The committee recommended the rejection of the court-packing bill, calling it “a needless, futile, and utterly dangerous abandonment of constitutional principle. . . without precedent and without justification.”

What followed was an extended debate on the Senate Floor lasting for seven days until the Majority Leader, Joseph T. Robinson of Arkansas, a supporter of the plan, suffered a heart attack and died on July 14. Eight days later, by a vote of 70 to 20, the Senate sent the judicial reform bill back to committee, where FDR’s controversial, court-packing language was finally stripped. A determined, vocal group of Senators properly prevented a powerful President from corrupting our nation’s judiciary.

Free and open debate on the Senate floor ensures citizens a say in their government. The American people are heard, through their Senator, before their money is spent, before their civil liberties are curtailed, or before a judicial nominee is confirmed for a lifetime appointment. We are the guardians, the stewards, the protectors of our people. Our voices are their voices.

If we restrain debate on judges today, what will be next: the rights of the elderly to receive social security; the rights of the handicapped to be treated fairly; the rights of the poor to obtain a decent education? Will all debate soon fall before majority rule?

Will the majority someday trample on the rights of lumber companies to harvest timber, or the rights of mining companies to mine silver, coal, or iron ore? What about the rights of energy companies to drill for new sources of oil and gas? How will the insurance, banking, and securities industries fare when a majority can move against their interests and prevail by a simple majority vote? What about farmers who can be forced to lose their subsidies, or Western Senators who will no longer be able to stop a majority determined to wrest control of ranchers’ precious water or grazing rights? With no right of debate, what will forestall plain muscle and mob rule?

Many times in our history we have taken up arms to protect a minority against the tyrannical majority in other lands. We, unlike Nazi Germany or Mussolini’s Italy, have never stopped being a nation of laws, not of men.

But witness how men with motives and a majority can manipulate law to cruel and unjust ends. Historian Alan Bullock writes that Hitler’s dictatorship rested on the constitutional foundation of a single law, the Enabling Law. Hitler needed a two-thirds vote to pass that law, and he cajoled his opposition in the Reichstag to support it. Bullock writes that “Hitler was prepared to promise anything to get his bill through, with the appearances of legality preserved intact.” And he succeeded.

Hitler’s originality lay in his realization that effective revolutions, in modern conditions, are carried out with, and not against, the power of the State: the correct order of events was first to secure access to that power and then begin his revolution. Hitler never abandoned the cloak of legality; he recognized the enormous psychological value of having the law on his side. Instead, he turned the law inside out and made illegality legal.

And that is what the nuclear option seeks to do to Rule XXII of the Standing Rules of the Senate.

It seeks to alter the rules by sidestepping the rules, thus making the impermissible the rule. Employing the “nuclear option”, engaging a pernicious, procedural maneuver to serve immediate partisan goals, risks violating our nation’s core democratic values and poisoning the Senate's deliberative process.

For the temporary gain of a hand-full of “out of the mainstream” judges, some in the Senate are ready to callously incinerate each Senator’s right of extended debate. Note that I said each Senator. For the damage will devastate not just the minority party. It will cripple the ability of each member to do what each was sent here to do – – represent the people of his or her state. Without the filibuster or the threat of extended debate, there exists no leverage with which to bargain for the offering of an amendment. All force to effect compromise between the two political parties is lost. Demands for hearings can languish. The President can simply rule, almost by Executive Order if his party controls both houses of Congress, and Majority Rule reins supreme. In such a world, the Minority is crushed; the power of dissenting views diminished; and freedom of speech attenuated. The uniquely American concept of the independent individual, asserting his or her own views, proclaiming personal dignity through the courage of free speech will, forever, have been blighted. And the American spirit, that stubborn, feisty, contrarian, and glorious urge to loudly disagree, and proclaim, despite all opposition, what is honest and true, will be sorely manacled.

Yes, we believe in Majority rule, but we thrive because the minority can challenge, agitate, and question. We must never become a nation cowed by fear, sheeplike in our submission to the power of any majority demanding absolute control.

Generations of men and women have lived, fought and died for the right to map their own destiny, think their own thoughts, and speak their minds. If we start, here, in this Senate, to chip away at that essential mark of freedom – – here of all places, in a body designed to guarantee the power of even a single individual through the device of extended debate – – we are on the road to refuting the Preamble to our own Constitution and the very principles upon which it rests.

In the eloquent, homespun words of that illustrious, obstructionist, Senator Smith, “ Liberty is too precious to get buried in books. Men ought to hold it up in front of them every day of their lives, and say, ‘I am free – – to think – – to speak. My ancestors couldn’t. I can. My children will.”

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Guckert Donating Member (946 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-02-05 09:15 AM
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1. the "rule of law" party ONLY follows rules they agree with.
Just like their superior Morals and family values??:tinfoilhat:
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bryant69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-02-05 09:18 AM
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2. Inspiring words
Byrd has sort of blossomed over the last couple of years, or at least gained a more prominent voice.

Bryant
Check it out --> http://politicalcomment.blogspot.com
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ret5hd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-02-05 09:24 AM
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3. wow...powerful words (nt)
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Discord Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-02-05 09:41 AM
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4. Wonderfully written. EOM
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HereSince1628 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-02-05 09:46 AM
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5. I'm impressed Byrd raises the spectre of Hitler's tactics
hidden in rule XXII.

Has Byrd ever used that sort of rhetoric before with respect to this administration?

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rainy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-02-05 11:52 AM
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11. He has been like this since I started paying attention, right after 9/11
He has given beautiful speeches against the bush admin. I mean beautiful, make you cry speeches. Especially when he was trying to stop the rush to war. He filibustered for hours on the floor. He is a hero in my book. Voted against war.
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HereSince1628 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-02-05 12:46 PM
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13. Yes, I know, my question is about the reference to Hitler tactics
I didn't remember him doing that before, maybe he has.

There is obvious significance in Byrd invoking Hitler for the folks who believe Bush is the equivalent of Hitler.



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Just Me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-02-05 07:53 PM
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29. I "think" he kept strong on constitutional principles until he got HATE,.
Edited on Wed Mar-02-05 07:57 PM by Just Me
,...mail calling him a commie liberal or traitor or all that right-wing shit.

In response to fascist HATE HATE HATE,...he responded in-kind,...but, in a far more tactful, articulate, reasoned manner.

He is a brilliant orator.
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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-02-05 10:01 AM
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6. And this interesting point....
"...The Senate, with its two members per state, regardless of population is, then, the forum of the states. Indeed, in the last Congress, 52 members, a majority, representing the 26 smallest states accounted for just 17.06% of the U.S. population. In other words, a majority in the Senate does not necessarily represent a majority of the population..."
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ElsewheresDaughter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-03-05 10:14 AM
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35. kentuck ...yuppers and made it my new sig line
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robbedvoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-02-05 10:09 AM
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7. Sums up the BFEE take over - from stolen elections to lies for wars:
Hitler never abandoned the cloak of legality; he recognized the enormous psychological value of having the law on his side. Instead, he turned the law inside out and made illegality legal.
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gordianot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-02-05 10:56 AM
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8. A voice of reason.
Edited on Wed Mar-02-05 10:58 AM by gordianot
Unfortunately reasonable men and women are no longer held in esteem in our government or nation at large. History and a historical perspective is viewed as elitist in favor of expeditious partisan hacks such as Bill Frist. Reason becomes treason.

Senator Byrd represents the best in the tradition of Senators on par with those going back to the Roman Senate. As our Republic follows the decline and fall of the Roman Republic, maybe Senator Byrd's words will be inspire another nation who will attempt to live up to the ideals of Plato. I fear it may be too late for us.
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fromBrooklyn Donating Member (105 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-02-05 11:29 AM
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9. Beautifully put.
And necessary. Times are getting hard, if you believe American's should bve free, and the sad part is those who think they back the "Republicans" are gonna be taking it in the neck just as hard as the rest of us who can still think straight...

The name, "Nuclear Option", is so apt, it seems to have evaded all common sense.
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ohtransplant Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-02-05 11:30 AM
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10. Sen. Byrd has become a real statesman.
He certainly has "blossomed".

I know I'll be calling Sens Frist and Specter to sound off on Sen Byrd's speech.
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Just Me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-02-05 07:56 PM
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30. The right-wing will take him out in 2006 unless we make a concentrated,...
,...effort to keep him. If we had any comparable replacement to support, I wouldn't be so concerned,...but, believe me,....we do NOT have a comparable replacement.

I would be incredibly disappointed to lose this man at this time in our history.
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ohtransplant Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-02-05 10:42 PM
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32. Agreed.
I for one have opened my horizons regarding financial support. I used to focus on local, state, and my own Senators and Reps. No more of that for me. Byrd, Boxer, Conyers, Reid, etc... will get whatever I can afford since the rethugs have a strategy of targeting Dem leadership. While we're at it, we should focus on challengers to Frist and Santorum in '06.
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The empressof all Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-02-05 11:58 AM
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12. filibuster of convenience
Edited on Wed Mar-02-05 12:00 PM by The empressof all
Once again Byrd has stepped up to be our national conscious. He's a true "American" leader.

I firmly believe the Republicans as a whole believe they can do anything. Get rid of the filibuster today....put it back in a few years from now when the general public forgets they pushed to take it out. (Ooooops forgot..general public doesn't have a clue what's going on anyway)

Remember term limits. Just how may on those folks ran on term limit platform and are still there?

These folks just make me sick.
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no name no slogan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-02-05 12:53 PM
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14. "Noo-Kyoo-Ler". It's pronounced "Noo-Kyoo-Ler" these days (n/t)
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kodi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-02-05 01:09 PM
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15. so, the republicans want a democracy, and the democrats a republic
as the world turns upside down.
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gordianot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-02-05 01:28 PM
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16. That is the problem.
I really do not think (so called) Republicans even want a Democracy. Maybe in the long run Republics are not feasible.
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bowens43 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-02-05 02:16 PM
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19. I think you have it backwards.
Edited on Wed Mar-02-05 02:17 PM by bowens43
It's true democracy that isn't feasible. We live in a Constitutional Republic , be thankful. There is no greater tyranny then the tyranny of the majority.
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gordianot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-02-05 03:10 PM
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20. We are supposed to be a constitutional republic.
Edited on Wed Mar-02-05 03:12 PM by gordianot
What we are witnessing and Byrd is addressing, are the first major cracks in that Republic.

Republicans are at war with the checks and balances. In some ways they are behaving as if we have a Parliamentary government, with no desire to form a coalition or consensus. This Constitution is under assault by hacks and by those who pay lip service to the name Republic. Republics through out history are fragile and ours in real jeopardy.

Election fraud makes a mockery of "democracy". In this era who are the perpetrators of fraud?
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bowens43 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-02-05 03:13 PM
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21. I agree completely.
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-02-05 01:48 PM
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18. The only thing with the republicans
and their whole "democracy" thing is they want it "their way or the highway." Never mind what's right or wrong. Just their way. That, to me, is not a democracy. It's pure facisim in it's best.
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kodi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-02-05 03:59 PM
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26. the GOP wanted "majority rule" (demos), Dems wanted a republic's checks
that is what made the the situation so Orwellian.

the names of the parties referred to the opposite of the forms of government each side was propounding to legitimize their political opinions on this debate.

what this shows is the corruption of the recent structure of popular debate. regardless of the legitimacy of an argument, it is given equal status with its antithesis, regardless of its level of conforming to the facts or logical consistency.

republicans are calling for more democracy, as in majority rules in this case of steamrolling judges, but fails to offer any consistency for such a broad interpretation of democracy when it comes to other items that hinder the basic economic interests of the GOP.

this blatant attempt to corrupt the popular discussion with deceitful posturing runs against the alleged value system the GOP uses as a basis for its ethical and moral foundation.

i would submit that it is more effective to battle the GOP by delineating the inconstancies it shows and the infidelity it shows to the principles upon which it stands.

one thing as to Mr Bush's "ownership" society: I'm all for it, because he is right that the more folks with chips in the game, the more interested they will be in the game. now let us go about making every single American citizen an owner by splitting up all the wealth of the country equally so we are all in this game equally together.

i assumed that's what Bush meant by an ownership society, and if it is not, what does he mean, a place where 1% own 50% and 20% own 1%?

that sounds to me less like an ownership society and more like society of serfs.
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rman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-02-05 03:28 PM
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23. whereas it's perfect;y possible to have a democratic republic. n/t
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Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-02-05 01:36 PM
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17. An excellent read...
...and insight into the most corrupt WH and GOP majority this nation has ever seen.
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ArkDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-02-05 03:22 PM
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22. Byrd has used the fillibuster effectively in the past...
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borg5575 Donating Member (193 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-02-05 03:37 PM
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25. He used to use it against civil rights legislation
But I guess that this former KKK member has had a complete conversion.
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borg5575 Donating Member (193 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-02-05 03:35 PM
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24. Cooler heads will prevail
The reason why the so-called "nuclear option" won't be enacted is because cooler heads within the Republican caucus will realize that if they destroy the filibuster, then they won't be able to use it themselves in the future when they lose their Senate majority.

But I wonder what will happen when the shoe is on the other foot. When the Democrats retake the Senate, which I hope is in 2006 but at the very least in 2008, will we here at DU also support the concept of the filibuster when the rethugs use it to block progressive legislation the that new Democrat majority tries to pass.
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ProudToBeLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-02-05 04:49 PM
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27. kick
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Rowdyboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-02-05 07:46 PM
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28. kick
Really big Democratic KICK! :kick:
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Rainscents Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-02-05 07:58 PM
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31. GOP only needs 6 Senate seats to complitely rule and they will
steal it in '06... No paper ballot machines, so, they can and will do it. They planned this since the early 90's. Notice, slowly, they were taking seats house and Senate and democrats didn't see it coming and now it's too late to do anything. Only way things will change is, we the people have to take it street like back in early 1900 and '60's.
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ArkDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-03-05 10:02 AM
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34. I hate it when they rule complitely...
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donheld Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-02-05 11:24 PM
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33. Senator Byrd has been one of my heros the last 4 years
He's one of the few who have stood against the oncoming tyranny of the bushies.
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blackspade Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-03-05 02:22 PM
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36. Holy Crap, Batman!
Great speach!
Can he run for office in KY against Mitch-the bitch-McConnell, or Jim-terrorist bait-Bunning?
grumble...
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MsMagnificent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-06-05 04:15 AM
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37. *applause*
Unfortunately very few will read this in its entirety.

I'm hoping, but not counting on, other Republican Senators to stand up and back Byrd's statement. America hasn't been the home of heroes and true free speech for a long time...
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