Look at the articles the Italian reporter wrote before she was "kidnapped"

[NNN0LHI]

http://www.ilmanifesto.it/pag/sgrena/en/

THE NATION CALLS FOR RELEASE OF GIULIANA SGRENA

Florence and the others
GIULIANA SGRENA
il manifesto 14 January 2005

Ten thousand Iraqis in US and British prisons
GIULIANA SGRENA
il manifesto 29 December 2004

Two thousand victims in Fallujah
Giuliana Sgrena, Iraq
il manifesto 26 November 2004

Napalm Raid on Falluja?
GIULIANA SGRENA
il manifesto 23 November 2004

The death throes of Fallujah
Giuliana Sgrena
ilmanifesto 13 November 2004

“Stop the massacre”
GIULIANA SGRENA
il manifesto 12 November 2004

Bombs and tanks, hell breaks in Falluja
GIULIANA SGRENA
il manifesto 09 November 2004

Interview with an Iraki woman tortured at Abu Graib.
Giuliana Sgrena, our correspondent in Baghdad
il manifesto 01 July 2004

“Imminent attack” against Falluja
GIULIANA SGRENA
il manifesto 06 November 2004

Flight from a Falluja massacred by bombs
GIULIANA SGRENA
il manifestp 21 October 2004

UN: US crimes in Iraq
GIULIANA SGRENA
il manifesto 05 June 2004


Now ask your self something. Why would the Iraqis who want the US out of Iraq want this woman kidnapped or killed? I smell a Negroponte type "El Salvador" option in action here. This is his MO.

Don

[oneighty]

1. Shoot the messenger?

180

[Mnemosyne]

5. Thank you oneighty, for 1951 - 1960. I appreciate it.

Great-Aunt/Uncle were Navy 1930's- 1950's. Long gone, but never forgotten. Uncle flew over Japan few years after bombs dropped.

[annabanana]

2. You're right, this stinks....

Where is she now? I hope she has plenty of good protection.

[NNN0LHI]

3. She is in Italy

And the supposed "insurgents" who were holding her were demanding that all Italian reporters leave Iraq.

Don

[FreedomAngel82]

54. I wonder why

Because they're there and aren't afraid of reporting the truth. Dangerous. :\ I don't like that.

[Tigress DEM]

22. She gets rescued, US shoots her convoy.

Reporters Without Borders says 21 journalist kidnapped since 03/03 and in the last month or so it's been getting worse.


Initial capture
http://www.rsf.org/article.php3?id_article=12579

Release
http://www.rsf.org/article.php3?id_article=12759

US fires on her convoy
http://www.rsf.org/article.php3?id_article=12761

[Tigress DEM]

25. Another reporter Wazzan, kidnapped w/10yr old son, found dead

Reporters Without Borders says 21 journalist kidnapped since 03/03 and in the last month or so it's been getting worse.

Wazzan - a female reporter also was kidnapped along with her 10year old son. He was released after 3 days and she was shot in the head, found 5 days after kidnapped.

http://www.rsf.org/article.php3?id_article=12680

[Tigress DEM]

27. Will Pitt'sTruthOut Investigative Report >> the 1st reporters KIA

Rules of Combat to justify killing the first two is being re-investigated and it just doesn't wash after you've read Pitt's expose, AND my RAGE is that the US Media isn't reporting on this at all.

http://www.truthout.org/docs_2005/022505A.shtml

[Just Me]

28. Wow. I forgot all about that report. Thanks for linking it!!!

:bounce:

[Tigress DEM]

32. You are welcome.

[FreedomAngel82]

55. Does anybody

know how fast their car was going? They claimed they shot because the car was going really fast and they didn't know if they were insergents or not.

[rzemanfl]

4. Nothing about the Iraq situation make sense. Why would the

United States kidnap her then release her alive then shoot her on her way to the airport? This is the kind of stuff that can drive a person nuts.

[NNN0LHI]

7. Why would Iraqi "insurgents" want the Italian media to leave Iraq?

That is the question here. There is no logical answer for that after reading this reporters past work.

Don

[rzemanfl]

11. Unless they are thinking that all infidels are the same, this defies

logic. Of course most everything that has gone on since November of 2000 has defied logic.

[ooglymoogly]

15. we should never underestimate the intelligence of the iraqi people

they would never treat a friend in this maner...the whole thing stinks to high heaven and defines what evil really is.

[Northern Perspective]

51. Why was Margaret Hassan murdered by her Iraqi captors?

It's an absolutely appalling atrocity for which no one can find an explanation. (Mrs.Hassan lived in Iraq for 30 years, married to an Iraqi, director of CARE, was beloved in her neighbourhood.) Why?

[Just Me]

74. Who were her kidnappers/captors?

:shrug:

Do you have ANY evidence whatsoever of who they actually were?

NO?

And, quess what,...you never will.

WHY?

Hmmmmmm,....who would target humanitarians, the UN, independents, NGOs, caregivers, intellects, etc? The Iraqis or those whose aim is absolute control? And, who aims to exact absolute control?

[FreedomAngel82]

56. I agree

We are the enemies. Do you think they knew the type of articles she was writing? (the Iraqi's)

[barbaraann]

6. The man who died when he threw himself in front of her is a hero.

He must have known she was worth dying for!!!

[NewYorkerfromMass]

26. Sounds like he fouled up the plan to finally "silence" her

I guess they were supposed to 'accidentally' friendly fire her out of existence. Maybe they were told to drive at a high rate of speed toward the checkpoint so as to give the soldiers an excuse to fire at them.

[Tigress DEM]

41. Italian Secret Servic Agent Nicola Calipari - DU salutes your sacrifice!

:kick:

But we're mad as hell you died at the hands of our government.
:mad:

[FreedomAngel82]

57. Aw

so amazing. Who was the guy? Do you know?

[barbaraann]

60. Nicola Calipari

Tragic and unnecessary.

[Tigress DEM]

65. Took the bullet for GIULIANA SGRENA

[matcom]

8. i had wondered about this very thing

was thinking it last night. THANK YOU for digging this up.

[matcom]

10. one other thing....

someone should get this list to Mike Malloy

[Tigress DEM]

43. Purple hippo is really way too freaky. imho.

[peekaloo]

9. I nominated this thread for TGP

because the nightly news sure as hell won't cover this angle.

[lonestarnot]

12. Oh yes, something definitely up here...n/t

[ooglymoogly]

13. the real story of what happened is here on this page

nominated for greatest page

[Tigress DEM]

31. Why is the rest of the Media SILENT? Afraid of reprisal?

Nothing new to the world of journalism, I guess, but 27 jailed for WHAT in March of 2003?

http://www.rsf.org/article.php3?id_article=6819
<snip>
Víctor Rolando Arroyo Carmona - real threat to mankind...

Arrested on 18 March at his home in Pinar del Rio. Sentenced on 30 March to 26 years in prison...

He has been in prison twice before.
The first time was in 1996 for publishing an unauthorized article called "El Tabaco," criticizing tobacco growing methods in Pinar del Rio, where the famous Havana cigars are produced.

He was jailed again on 14 February 2000 and sentenced this time to six months in prison for "possessing public property,"...He had bought toys in hard-currency shops in Pinar del Rio that he was going to hand out to poor children ....

[Just Me]

33. Those were not in Iraq. Perhaps, that would best serve your purpose,...

,...in a separate post? :shrug:

Just sayin',...ya' know. :evilgrin:

[Tigress DEM]

36. Yeah, got my wires crossed, but if Cuba is "bad" and we are doing the same

thing behind closed doors. It's the same thing.

Why do none of our MEDIA report the truth? They are afraid of something. What?

[Just Me]

38. Well,...yes, I agree with your analogy.

I just *LOL* didn't want to get off track. Know what I mean?

[Tigress DEM]

44. Totally.

I thought when I first read all this in Reporters Without Borders that there was an article about 21 journalists kidnapped since 03/03.

I saved the Wazzan article to my desktop, and I was looking for the link that went into more detail than the Wazzan article did...

<snip>
Report, RSF, 21 February 2005
New wave of kidnappings increases dangers for journalists in Iraq.

Wazzan is the 21st journalist to be kidnapped in Iraq since the war began in March 2003. Four other journalists have gone missing.

[FreedomAngel82]

59. They're all

bought and paid for by the neocons. And anybody who does tell the truth is labeled a "liberal" like that's evil. :eyes:

[FreedomAngel82]

58. The media being silent

is why I'm suspecious. Plus I just don't believe about anything that comes out of there that is from someone who is an "official."

[Igel]

14. Are we falling into the "cui bono?" trap again?

They may have just wanted ransom money.

They may not have heard her reputation.

They may have thought it inappropriate for a woman to walk around unveiled.

They may have grabbed the wrong reporter.

They may have thought that nabbing a liberal writer would truly rile up anti-war movements, increasing pressure for the West to withdraw.

Without data, speculation's a fun game, but let's not confuse it with logical deduction.

[NNN0LHI]

16. Who is they?

I can wait until she tells her story. I suspect it won't be too long before we hear it?.

Don

[Igel]

18. Kidnappers.

And I agree whole-heartedly. I'll like hearing what she has to say. Any facts that constrain speculation are good.

(I seem to have gone on a campaign against the 'cui bono?' kind of speculation. I'm not entirely sure it's a good campaign, however.)

[Tigress DEM]

34. We have found the enemey and them is US.... just speculation...

Here is a great article about freedom of the press...

http://www.freepress.org/departments/display/19/2004/1006

<snip>
Among our cherished institutions is freedom of the press. John Peter Zenger, a German immigrant, wrote an article in a New York newspaper in 1733 that portrayed William Cosby, a Governor appointed by King George II to keep the colonies in line, as a tyrant. Zenger was brought up on libel charges, but in a landmark decision, he was acquitted in court on the grounds that he had written the truth. *****Under kings, any criticism is libel, truthful or not; but in a democracy, truth has dominion over despotism.*****

****Emphasis mine*****

Will someone tell Bush that he is not the KING of the United States? Obviously that's why he thinks the truth can not be told about anything he does. Or is that more speculation? Probably.




:hi:

[FreedomAngel82]

61. Nah He thinks

he's King of the world. :eyes:

[Tigress DEM]

64. The Emperor is stark raving NAKED!

:wow:

[rucky]

49. She was shot "mistakenly" by US troops after her release:

http://pittsburghlive.com/x/tribune-review/trib/newssummary/s_310193.html

[NNN0LHI]

73. Italian minister say he does not believe the U.S. version of events

http://www.alertnet.org/thenews/newsdesk/L05703936.htm

Body of slain Italian agent gets hero's welcome


06 Mar 2005 00:40:05 GMT

Source: Reuters

By Christiano Corvino

ROME, March 6 (Reuters) - The body of an Italian secret service agent shot by U.S. forces in Iraq was flown home to a hero's welcome early on Sunday amid mounting anger in Italy over his killing.

Agent Nicola Calipari died while shielding reporter Giuliana Sgrena, just freed after a month held hostage, from U.S. troops who opened fire on their car near Baghdad airport. snip

The U.S. military said its forces shot at the car on Friday evening after flashing lights and firing warning shots to try to get it to stop.

Italy's minister for parliamentary relations, Carlo Giovanardi, told state television on Saturday that he did not believe the U.S. version of events.

more

[Rageneau]

81. Me neither.

[Spiffarino]

35. You may be entirely correct

Occam's Razor and all that stuff.

But you can't deny that overspeculation is really, really fun. :evilgrin:

This is what makes me believe it's possible: They demonize anyone who dares speak against them, they've removed protection from whistleblowers, and they have installed lackeys in oversight positions. I harbor little doubt that the Bush regime is capable of doing unspeakable things in foreign countries given what they've already done here.

[FreedomAngel82]

62. Yup

I remember not long ago the democrats had a meeting on Iraq foreign policey and they were supposed to have some whistleblowers but they didn't come because they were getting death threats and were afraid for their families and themselves. :(

[Igel]

69. I like good speculation, as long as I know people know what

it is.

And, sure, it's possible. No objection there.

[RubyCat]

17. Reminds me of Margaret Hassan.

Psyops probably kidnapped Sgrena and handed her over to a known insurgent group thinking that they were going to behead her. It's part of an effort to turn the opinion of the Iraqi people against the insurgency. They never expected that the insurgents would actually release her.

What information will Sgrena reveal now that she's in safe hands? That the original kidnappers were way too organized and well equipped to be a rag-tag band of insurgents? Or maybe she'll report on the horrors she witnessed in Fallujah?

[imenja]

71. Here's an idea

You go to Iraq and talk to the insurgents. You tell them how much you oppose the war in Iraq and see how long you live. You're deluding yourself. They don't give a fuck. They want all foreigners and non-jihadis out of the country. They've kidnapped a number of journalists critical of the occupation, including at least one Turkish woman who discussed her experience upon release.

[ElsewheresDaughter]

19. Abosolutely "Negroponte type "El Salvador" option in action here"

[Just Me]

20. There's also a list floating around here of the names of reporters killed.

I'll see if I can find it and post it because a pattern is definitely reflective by your info and the reporters who have been killed.

[Just Me]

23. Here it is (posted by "chlamor" in GD),...

Thank you "chlamor" for posting this info!!!!

48 journalists and media assistants killed since the start of fighting in Iraq in March 2003, four still missing

33 have been killed this year while doing their job.

Four other journalists are still missing

The names of the deceased:

33 Journalists killed


25.02.2005 - Raeda Mohammed Wageh Wazzan, Iraqiya

09.02.2005 - Abdel Hussein Khazaal, Al-Hurra TV

01.11.2004 - Dhia Najim, Reuters

27.10.2004 - Liqaa Abdul-Razzaq, Al-Sharqiya

14.10.2004 - Karam Hussein, European Pressphoto Agency

14.10.2004 - Dina Mohamad Hassan, Al Hurriya Television

7.10.2004 - Ahmad Jassem, Nivive television

12.09.2004 - Mazen al-Tomaizi, Al-Arabiya

26.08.2004 - Enzo Baldoni, Diario della settimana

15.08.2004 - Mahmoud Hamid Abbas, ZDF

15.08.2004 - Hossam Ali, freelance

03.06.2004 - Sahar Saad Eddine Nouami, Al-Mizan, Al-Khaima, Al-Hayat Al-Gadida

27.05.2004 - Kotaro Ogawa, Nikkan Gendai

27.05.2004 - Shinsuke Hashida, Nikkan Gendai


07.05.2004 - Waldemar Milewicz, TVP

07.05.2004 - Mounir Bouamrane, TVP

19.04.2004 - Assad Kadhim, Al-Iraqiya TV

26.03.2004 - Bourhan Mohammad al-Louhaybi, ABC News

18.03.2004 - Ali Al-Khatib, Al-Arabiya

18.03.2004 - Ali Abdel Aziz, Al-Arabiya

18.03.2004 - Nadia Nasrat, Diyala Television

28.10.2003 - Ahmed Shawkat, Bila Ittijah

17.08.2003 - Mazen Dana, Reuters

02.07.2003 - Ahmad Karim, Kurdistan Satellite TV

08.04.2003 - José Couso, Tele 5

08.04.2003 - Taras Protsyuk, Reuters

08.04.2003 - Tarek Ayoub, Al Jazeera

07.04.2003 - Christian Liebig, Focus

07.04.2003 - Julio Anguita Parrado, El Mundo

04.04.2003 - Michael Kelly, Washington Post

02.04.2003 - Kaveh Golestan, BBC

02.04.2003 - Kaveh Golestan, BBC

23.03.2003 - Terry Lloyd, ITV News

22.03.2003 - Paul Moran, Australian Broadcasting Corporation

15 Media assistants killed


25.08.2004 - Jamal Tawfiq Salmane, Gazeta Wyborcza

29.05.2004 - Mahmoud Ismael Daood, bodyguard, Al-Sabah al-Jadid

29.05.2004 - Samia Abdeljabar, driver, Al-Sabah al-Jadid

27.05.2004 - Unknown, translator

25.05.2004 - Unknown, translator

21.05.2004 - Rachid Hamid Wali, cameraman assistant, Al-Jazira

29.04.2004 - Hussein Saleh, driver, Al-Iraquiya TV

26.03.2004 - Omar Hashim Kamal, translator, Time

18.03.2004 - Majid Rachid, technician, Diyala Television

18.03.2004 - Mohamad Ahmad, security agent, Diyala Television

27.01.2004 - Duraid Isa Mohammed, producer and translator, CNN

27.01.2004 - Yasser Khatab, driver, CNN

07.07.2003 - Jeremy Little, sound engineer, NBC

06.04.2003 - Kamaran Abdurazaq Muhamed, translator, BBC

22.03.2003 - Hussein Othman, translator, ITV News

http://www.rsf.org/special_iraq_en.php3

[burn the bush]

21. what was their excuse? That something went wrong with the bomb?

It was something stupid like that. I hope the Italians get her out of US custody as quick as possible. (les she has some sort of fatal "reaction" to her meds or something)

[DemoTex]

24. Look at this intriguing headline at Buzzflash!!!!!!!

Turkish Press Report: US attack against Italians in Baghdad was deliberate: companion. Article Alleges She Knew Too Much About Bush Cartel War Crimes in Iraq. If the Details are Accurate, Bush Should be Impeached and Tried As An Accessory to Murder.3/6

Unfortunately, it is linked to the wrong article (linked to an article about China). Maybe they will fix their link. I really want to read that Turkish press report.

On edit: I sent Buzzflash a note asking that they fix their link. I'll post the article if they get it fixed.

Edit 2: http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x1640693

[Tigress DEM]

37. Buzzflash link is fixed now...

Here is the direct link though if anyone is interested.

http://www.turkishpress.com/news.asp?id=38029

<snip>
"The Americans and Italians knew about (her) car coming," Pier Scolari said on leaving Rome's Celio military hospital where Sgrena is to undergo surgery following her return home.

"They were 700 meters (yards) from the airport, which means that they had passed all checkpoints."

The shooting late Friday was witnessed by Prime Minister Silvio Berlusconi's office which was on the phone with one of the secret service agents, said Scolari. "Then the US military silenced the cellphones," he charged.

[FreedomAngel82]

63. Wow

That explains it. If she has the proof what will happen next?

[Tigress DEM]

66. The morons at the gate will get it or their direct officers...

Those who planned it and left these guys out of the loop will never see any hard time or even be inconvienced.

[Just Me]

29. The pattern of kidnapping of humanitarians, caregivers, socialists,...

,...communists, NGO workers, independents and others along those lines is also very suspicious and wreaks of "El Salvador" option.

[Tigress DEM]

39. Democracy really was what was standing between the world and

this kind of persecution of the truth. Our strength as a nation was/should be built on our committment to the truth and we were respected at one time for being a nation that would stand up for the truth even if it embarrassed US.

I know it's only speculation, but when the facts, only the facts of all the dissparite things the Bush administration does are woven together it simply shows an administration afraid of the truth in any form. So to me with the way they disappear evidence and laws that protect us, it is very clear that they are complicit in this attack on the Italian journalist.

[Just Me]

45. Yep. When one ignores what's said and analyzes the facts,...

,...one can not avoid arriving at the conclusion that the neoCONs are pathological, deceptive and manipulative control-freaks *LOL*.

Of course, a lot of the members of the Bush administration have already proven themselves capable of the most egregious, disgusting beliefs and behavior which completely contradicts American values.

Truth still matters.

[Paradise]

30. Well, Shut My Mouth!

As usual, I had no idea.

Thanks for the eye-opener, NNN0LHI.

[NNN0LHI]

40. You would almost think our "free" media would have mentioned this by now

I mean it is part of the whole picture. To not report this information indicates we have a big problem with out "free" press. But then even the NYT refused to report anything about the Nazi death camps for years.

Don

[Tigress DEM]

42. They aren't FREE, they found out the repubs pay more for propoganda.

Course that has always been the case.

Do you think it's partially the public's fault? I mean even as interested as I am in these things now, I was never a great C-Span fan for instance and I just EXPECTED the Media to do the right thing.

I feel like I've really woken up to the truth now that it's gone, but am I - are we - too late?

[Paradise]

46. Unfortunately, have always had this tendency toward naievte,

and, lacking a free-press, experience many revelations, like your O.P., on DU.

Often shocked, however grateful for being enlightened.

[NNN0LHI]

47. Sgrena has told prosecutors in Rome her car was NOT speeding

http://ap.tbo.com/ap/breaking/MGBY9VR4Y5E.html

Former Italian Hostage Returns to Rome After U.S. Troops Fire on Her Vehicle in Iraq

<snip>Prime Minister Silvio Berlusconi greeted Sgrena after she was carried off her plane at Rome's Ciampino Airport following her release from a month of captivity. Surrounded by relatives and military police, Sgrena, a 56-year-old journalist with the newspaper Il Manifesto, was taken in an ambulance to a military clinic for an operation on her collarbone.

<snip>The U.S. military said the car Sgrena was riding in after her release was speeding as it approached a coalition checkpoint in western Baghdad on its way to the airport. Soldiers shot into the engine block only after trying to warn the driver to stop by "hand and arm signals, flashing white lights and firing warning shots," the military said.

Sgrena, who was interviewed by prosecutors at the hospital in Rome, denied that the car was speeding, news reports said.
more

[Just Me]

48. Oh, the plethora of contradictions sponsored by the DoD & Pentagon.

Sounds like the Italian people have had more than their fill.

I anticipate that ole' Berlusconi is gonna' be really feeling the heat now.

[0007]

68. I hope so, and I will trust that the protest rally will be increased

on March 19th.

Has anyone heard from John (Death Squad) Negroponte yet? You can bet on Monday every fucking General the Army and the Marines have will be on the media spinning away to save junior's ass from the obvious.

[Just Me]

50. I wonder if Sgrena and the agents had cellphones or other communication,..

,...equipment at the time of the incident.

[Tigress DEM]

67. posted before, but it bears repeating - cell phones silenced

http://www.turkishpress.com/news.asp?id=38029

<snip>
"The Americans and Italians knew about (her) car coming," Pier Scolari said on leaving Rome's Celio military hospital where Sgrena is to undergo surgery following her return home.

"They were 700 meters (yards) from the airport, which means that they had passed all checkpoints."

The shooting late Friday was witnessed by Prime Minister Silvio Berlusconi's office which was on the phone with one of the secret service agents, said Scolari. "Then the US military silenced the cellphones," he charged.

[Blue_Tires]

52. this smells like blackwater

or one of the other merc groups

[FreedomAngel82]

53. Interesting

It wasn't Iraqi's. I was listening about this last night and got weird feelings about that. I think someone had her kidnapped. But who? Didn't her story change too?

[imenja]

70. They don't distinguish

They kidnapped and killed Margaret Hassan. They've executed other anti-US journalists. They've kidnapped Turkish journalists who oppose the occupation. They want everyone but Iraqis and Jihadis out of the country, period.

[Pharaoh]

72. WOW!

This should be a huge story for the blogosphere

[arcos]

75. They probably had no idea who she was...

They saw a western woman, and kidnapped her. Maybe she was released after they noticed what she had wrote.

Now, the shooting? I wouldn't be surprised at all if it was intentional. I do believe she was really kidnapped by iraqis, though.

[proud patriot]

76. Laura Flanders is interviewing someone today about this

I'm listening to the archive from todays show .
sounds like this person is very close to the matter.

[babsbunny]

84. On MSNBC

A reporter just said a retired General said it was gross negligence on their part for speeding toward a checkpoint like that. The witnesses already said they were not speeding! Why can't MSNBC get both sides of the story? Wait, I know why!!!!!!! AHHHHHH!!!!

[Cobalt Violet]

77. Kick

[Contrary1]

78. Interesting article regarding Giuliana Sgrena

""We still have our doubts. We don't know if what they say is true. We believe that no Iraqi organization would organize a kidnapping of this kind, especially not of a journalist who intended to interview the refugees of Fallujah, victims of the American occupation."

On 10 February, Il Manifesto reported that a member of the Association of Islamic Scholars had been arrested by Allawi's authorities just hours before his expected appeal on behalf of the release of Giuliana Sgrena. Sheik Ali al Jabouri was arrested without any explanation for such a grave decision taken in this initial stage of negotiations for Sgrena's release, when the Sunni religious intervention could be crucial.

Indeed, according to Il Manifesto, the kidnapping of Giuliana Sgrena could not have come at a worse time for the Sunnis, as its representatives prepare to engage in denouncing the fraud of the elections. Rumors that only 45 percent of those Iraqis who registered to vote actually voted (which would lower significantly the percentage of total eligible voters not participating in the election) are strengthened by the reluctance of the authorities to come up with percentages. The spokesman for the electoral commission, Faryd Ayar, told the press as recently as shortly before 10 February that he could not produce data on the percentages of the vote..."

More...
http://www.onlinejournal.com/Media/021205Bohne/021205bohne.html

[Nothing Without Hope]

79. Horrifying. Was this also to send a warning to truth-telling reporters?

Sure. Kidnapped by the Iraqis, who have previously been shown to check the internet for the activities of the people they capture and have released people on the basis of what they have reported. (Sorry, I don't have names or links, but I remember it from when it happened.)

No way this was the Iraqi resistance fighters who kidnapped this woman. You have drawn attention to behind the curtain, and we need to pay attention to the men hiding there, pulling the strings of the puppet press.

[cal04]

80. Iraqi resistance has nothing to gain from these atrocities

Iraq
What does Italian journalist Giuliana Sgrena know and why did the U.S. want to kill her?
Editors Note: Kevin Thomson, a reader of Axis of Logic publications sent this note and article in today regarding the release of Italian journalist Giuliana Sgrena, followed by an attack on her car, wounding her and others and killing Nicola Calipari, the Italian agent who was accompanying her. We ask, "What does Giuliana Sgrena know and why did the U.S. military want to silence her?"

Ever since the kidnappings and beheadings of non-military personnel in Iraq began nearly 2 years ago, many observers, readers and analysts have asked why the Iraqi resistance would commit these crimes, knowing they would turn world opinion against them. Many ask the same questions about the mass killings of Shiites with bombs. The Iraqi resistance has nothing to gain from these atrocities and the invader/occupiers have everything to gain in the propaganda war. We know that the CIA and Mossad have been very busy in Iraq but what kind of "work" are they doing? Many readers write to us with their suspicions that these killings and kidnappings are the work of Black Ops in Iraq. "The jury is out." - Les Blough, Editor

Axis Reader Kevin Thomson writes: "All the American media said the Italian car, which was carrying the former hostage and Italian intelligence officers, was speeding at checkpoint and thus fired upon by American troops. However, foreign news reports it differently. This is from AFP (French media) and published on a Turkish web site."

http://www.axisoflogic.com/artman/publish/printer_16096.shtml

[alfredo]

82. It was a fuckin hit

She dared to say bad things about king george.

Let this be a lesson to all journalist, you tell the truth you eat lead.

[arcos]

83. kick nt