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Guaranteed (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-07-05 02:45 AM Original message |
Poll question: Can you force your mother or father to attach themselves to you for 9 |
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Finding Rawls (234 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-07-05 02:47 AM Response to Original message |
1. Thomson's argument is a joke nt |
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Guaranteed (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-07-05 02:49 AM Response to Reply #1 |
2. No, it's not. I thought it was, too, at first. |
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MAlibdem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-07-05 08:38 AM Response to Reply #2 |
29. It's a fetus, not a person |
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Guaranteed (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-07-05 04:52 PM Response to Reply #29 |
33. This thought experiment is granting personhood to the fetus |
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Dogmudgeon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-07-05 02:50 AM Response to Original message |
3. I smell a trick question |
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Guaranteed (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-07-05 02:53 AM Response to Reply #3 |
4. WTF are you talking about? |
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MAlibdem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-07-05 08:40 AM Response to Reply #4 |
30. I dunno how it's a pro-choice argument |
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Guaranteed (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-07-05 04:50 PM Response to Reply #30 |
32. You can't force them to stay attached. That violates their |
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Finding Rawls (234 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-07-05 02:54 AM Response to Original message |
5. If you could. . . |
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Guaranteed (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-07-05 02:56 AM Response to Reply #5 |
6. I'm not seeing the connection. nt |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-07-05 03:01 AM Response to Original message |
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Guaranteed (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-07-05 03:06 AM Response to Reply #7 |
9. No, it doesn't only apply to rape cases. |
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Finding Rawls (234 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-07-05 03:16 AM Response to Reply #9 |
10. She chooses to connect herself? |
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Guaranteed (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-07-05 03:18 AM Response to Reply #10 |
11. Yeah, I'm now asking what if she initially chose to connect herself, |
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Finding Rawls (234 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-07-05 03:19 AM Response to Reply #11 |
12. She chose |
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Guaranteed (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-07-05 03:20 AM Response to Reply #12 |
13. Nah...you know she has the right to disconnect. |
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Finding Rawls (234 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-07-05 03:23 AM Response to Reply #13 |
14. So if I agree to give you $10 dollars for your pen |
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Guaranteed (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-07-05 03:24 AM Response to Reply #14 |
15. It's not a contract. There's no consideration. |
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Finding Rawls (234 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-07-05 03:25 AM Response to Reply #15 |
16. Did she ask her son if she could connect herself to him? |
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Guaranteed (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-07-05 03:31 AM Response to Reply #16 |
17. No, let's just say that the idea came up from the doctor, |
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Finding Rawls (234 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-07-05 03:38 AM Response to Reply #17 |
18. You're being generous with me? |
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Guaranteed (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-07-05 03:47 AM Response to Reply #18 |
19. Even IF I do give you that, even if abortion is morally "wrong," |
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Finding Rawls (234 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-07-05 03:51 AM Response to Reply #19 |
20. you're all over the place |
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Guaranteed (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-07-05 03:56 AM Response to Reply #20 |
21. We abandoned legality and switched to morals in your last post. |
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Finding Rawls (234 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-07-05 04:03 AM Response to Reply #21 |
22. Did the parent choose to be connected? |
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Guaranteed (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-07-05 04:05 AM Response to Reply #22 |
23. You're saying they don't even have a choice, morally, right? |
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Finding Rawls (234 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-07-05 04:06 AM Response to Reply #23 |
24. I never said or hinted |
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Guaranteed (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-07-05 04:09 AM Response to Reply #24 |
25. Alright, then, what about the case mentioned in my OP, |
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Guaranteed (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-07-05 04:12 AM Response to Reply #24 |
26. Alternatively, are you then saying that a mother/father has a moral |
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Guaranteed (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-07-05 04:19 AM Response to Reply #22 |
27. In any case, I don't see how the parent's agreement would play |
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TaleWgnDg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-07-05 03:03 AM Response to Original message |
8. . |
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Poppyseedman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-07-05 08:27 AM Response to Original message |
28. This is the argument for a pro - choice position |
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Guaranteed (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-07-05 04:47 PM Response to Reply #28 |
31. The consent question is addressed above, |
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