Bolton isn't worth fighting over

[BlueManDude]

AWOL's UN nominee is a creep and a real stick in the eye to the international community - but so what? Everything AWOL has done since Jan 2001 has been a stick in the eye to the international community and look where it's gotten him. We are totally isolated and bearing the burdens of Iraq almost completely by ourselves. Hell I wouldn't be surprised to see Italy bail at this point.

Bolton's nomination furthers our isolation and removes any chance of the international community in any way bailing us out. I say this is a good thing. Bush should for once bear the brunt of the mess he's made. As for Bolton - I'd rather have him plying his evil out front than working behind the scenes.

It's hard for me to get my panties in a bunch over Bolton and the Senate Dems should vote against him but what's the point of a big fight? I'd much rather they fight the (moral) bankruptcy bill, or tort (de)form, or drilling in ANWR or Social Security destruction as opposed to Bolton.

If Bush wants Bolton - fine with me.

[Bridget Burke]

1. Our Democrats need to speak out against Bolton.

Some have already voiced their disapproval. They should question him severely & all vote NO. It's a way to prove their commitment to us--who are expected to support the party with votes & money.

And some anti-Bolton speeches might be picked up overseas, proving we're not all neo-imperialists.

[BlueManDude]

6. knock him around a bit and move on

i hope a fillibuster isn't in the works.

[John_H]

12. Me too. Filibustering everything makes chimp's BS play in peoria.

We love filibusters at DU. But 98% of America has some vague notion that "we elect politicians to get something done in Washington"--it doesn't really matter what they get done so much as long as they do something. Ask the good folks of South Dakota. When the mediawhores tell them over and over that the Dems are obstructing the agenda of the mandate-elected preznit, they'll buy it.

An unhealthy worldview? To be sure, but it doesn't change the fact that we'll bear the brunt of it.

Bolton, Gonzolez, et. all will be gone in 3 and 3/4 years. We should save the filibuster for the judges who will be around to screw our kids over.

[depakid]

2. I tend to agree with you

Dirty the man up in hearings so that there's plenty of juicy stuff for the world press- and then go ahead and vote for him anyway.

(Enough of the cowardly sell outs would, anyway- so what the hell).

Anything that isolates America and weakens it is only a good thing at this point. The sooner the nations of the world start figuring out just how malicious and dangerous America has become, the better. You can't appease extremist Republicans any more than you could have appeased Hitler or Stalin.

Tony Blair has had his Neville Chamberlain moment- and Labor is about to pay dearly for it.

[BlueManDude]

3. the ultimate victory for Bush/GOP

he gets re-elected and a Labor government in the UK (I don't join most here in bashing Blair - he's made one mistake, it was big one but I much prefer him to a GOP-like gov't in the UK) get the sack because of Iraq. It must be great to be a GOPer right now.

[depakid]

14. Unfortunately, I don't think enough people remember

How bad the Tories were (under Thatcher, especially).

It will be interesting to see what happens. Be nice if the Liberal Dems made enough gains to put Charles Kennedy in the catbird seat with a hung parliament...(Liberal Dems prefer the term "balanced parliament...;-))

[DoYouEverWonder]

7. The DEMS need to make sure

that during the confirmation hearings, that they put on the Public Record as much dirt as they can find on this guy.

Second, no matter the outcome, they need to vote against such a horrendous nominee. Nothing less will do.

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[depakid]

13. Good-

I hope they do see it- because it's true.

And if you'd actually stop to think about what I posted, instead of reacting- you'd understand that it's not a "hate America" deal at all- quite the contrary. It's a recognition of FACTS.

Right now, The US is a rogue nation that refuses to sign international treaties- and actively works to abrogate and dismantle existing ones, starts unprovoked wars (and stated that "preemptive" nuclear first strike is an option), its policies and corporations are probably the greatest threat to the global environment that's ever existed, it's become hopelessly corrupt, its media is dishonest, and its "leadership" is pressing hard to bring its people back to the misery of the Gilded Age- and its moving toward theocracy (and against rigging its democracy) to boot.

I think you need a reality check....

[BlueManDude]

16. Bush needs to hit the wall - Bolton will help him get there.

[The Backlash Cometh]

4. Dems need to create their own echo chambers. It was a terrible choice

that tips Bush's hand. He plans on going unilateral, no compromise. Repeat it over and over again, so when he marches into Iran, people can turn around and say that he planned it all along.

[BlueManDude]

8. Bolton insures that whatever they do - they do it alone

i think this is a good thing.

[The Backlash Cometh]

10. It's a good thing only because it isolates the Republicans from

the rest of Americans and the rest of the world.

[mattclearing]

5. EVERYTHING is worth fighting over.

How many weak justifications can we make to allow crazy people to represent us?

We don't have to drop everything to stop it, but vote for him? Pretend we like it?

No way.

[BlueManDude]

15. If he wants to pick incompetent ideologues why stop him?

People like Bolton hinder Bush's agenda. Short of allowing criminals to be confirmed (I admit to noe knowing a great deal about Bolton's past) it's Bush foreign policy team. If he wants ineffective boobs to serve his needs - I say let him have them.

They can raise champaign glasses over at the Heritage Foundtion all they want but Bolton is a bad choice if they want any help from the rest of the world in implementing Bush's agenda.

[AG78]

17. What?

Bolton is Bush's agenda. Hell, it's Bolton's agenda. These guys picked Bush, Bush didn't pick them.

[Rowdyboy]

9. I agree.....Bolton insures no foreign cooperation for Bush-he's a constant

reminder to foreign leaders that Bush is a nutcase cowboy whop doesn't give a damn about their opinions or interests. Question Bolton sharply, expose his views, vote against him but don't waste a filibuster on his worthless ass.

He's a self-imposed black eye for the (mal)administration

[Boredtodeath]

18. No need to "pick" battles - fight them ALL

Read Dowd today.

Does the defensive line of the football team pick and choose which plays they'll defend against?

What, we wait until they get to the 5 yard line then send in the defense?

Hell, let's quit wasting time and START every play at the 5 yard line instead. Why waste all that time chasing them down the field?

Keep our guys on the bench until they reach the goal?

Ridiculous!