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Thu Mar-10-05 08:07 PM
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Poll question: Does Bankruptcy bill backer Harry Reid speak for you? |
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Thu Mar-10-05 08:08 PM
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Thu Mar-10-05 08:11 PM
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2. Depends on the issue..... |
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No senate leader has ever totally suited me. Most likely, none ever will, unless I can swing getting elected to the senate and then bluff my way into the leadership. Hell, I'd probably even be disappointed by my own voting record.
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Thu Mar-10-05 08:56 PM
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for him to show his true colors. What a disappointment.
The midterms will present a great opportunity to run some real Dems against the "fake Republicans".
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Thu Mar-10-05 08:58 PM
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4. Be sure to get them elected, then. |
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Edited on Thu Mar-10-05 08:58 PM by Padraig18
If all you do is cripple the Dem you don't like and allow some RW fucktard to win, you've done neither yourself nor the nation any favors.
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Thu Mar-10-05 09:11 PM
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5. Because the worst Dem is still better than a Republican |
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esp depending on the issues. Witness the voting record of Joementum: http://www.vote-smart.org/voting_category.php?can_id=S0141103In some areas, like pro-choice, he ain't half bad at all.
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Thu Mar-10-05 09:13 PM
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6. He's a FP and defense hawk. |
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On almost any other issue, Joe is as progressive as almost any Democrat in the Senate.
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Thu Mar-10-05 09:18 PM
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7. People should use Project Vote Smart to see these things |
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I think they'd be surprised. I find this source the best. If anyone has a better one, I'd love to hear about it.
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Thu Mar-10-05 09:20 PM
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8. Lieberman bashing has taken on a life of its own, frankly. |
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There are many Democrats with FAR worse overall records than Lieberman, but for some reason, he is DU's designated whipping boy. I don't get it, personally.
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Thu Mar-10-05 09:27 PM
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Kerry is very much a progressive, but gets called "Repub-lite" because of the war vote.
Apparently DU's number one issue for the most part is the war. If Joe wasn't a hawk, we'd like him fine. If Kerry didn't show the occasional hawkish tendancy, we'd like him fine too.
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Thu Mar-10-05 09:31 PM
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12. I was and remain anti-war, BUT... |
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... I'd rather get a 1/2 loaf, than no bread at all. Maybe it's from being raised Catholic, but I'm also grateful for life's small mercies, and not merely its large ones.
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Fri Mar-11-05 03:21 PM
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14. This is Lieberman's first good vote of the year. We should thank him. |
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We should encourage him to do it again.
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Thu Mar-10-05 09:25 PM
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9. What's his email address. I want to tell him my opinion on his vote! |
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Thu Mar-10-05 09:29 PM
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11. Try going over to Senate.gov and finding his name |
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His email address should be over there.
www.senate.gov
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Thu Mar-10-05 10:59 PM
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13. I see that the apologists are back in full force |
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Edited on Thu Mar-10-05 11:04 PM by depakid
There's one inescapable point that they can't address though (even if they choose to remain in denial about the effect that pandering to the right has on the electorate's perception of the Democratic party- as evidenced by the continuing losses over the past decade):
If there are no consequences to selling out one's constituents, then there's no incentive not to take the money (in the bankruptcy matter, this is actually inexcusable PERIOD- as the Credit card companies "donate" OVERWHELMINGLY to Republicans- so this vote actually strengthens their hands and works to defeat other Dems who run).
Reid should NEVER have been given this post. Sure, he "talks tough" and for some, that's a welcome change from the milquetoast Daschle. However, his record thus far is a big fat ZERO. His bark is proving worse than his bite.
Morover, I think that's going to continue. People who expect the anti-choice Reid to lead a filibuster against far-right Supreme Court judges who WILL overturn Roe v. Wade are going to be sorely disappointed.
Even more than a majority party, an opposition party needs to enforce discipline. It needs to not only discourage double-dealing and duplicity, it needs to actively punish it. How to do that? Well, look at how the Republicans do it....
I'll also add this- if the Dems prove unwilling or incapable of unseating members who continue to side with Republicans to impose irrational, self-destructive policies on the nation- they're going to continue to lose ground all over the country-
Moreover, if the Dems won't put their house in order- then the Greens will have a go at it by running their own candidates....
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Fri Mar-11-05 03:53 PM
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I was liking him....
He goes and does something like this.
Fuck him. Fuck all those that voted for this. This is why people tend to hate politicians and why people don't vote.
The political class, like the corporate class, with few exceptions, don't give a shit about anyone.
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