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DemocracyInaction Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-19-05 01:11 PM
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80% Say "Confirm Those Judges Now"!!!!!
Just in case you thought that the American people are getting disgusted and 'getting it' about these Republicans, etc., you're wrong---dead wrong. (And that's why I about give up on '06, '08 and as far as the eye can see).

Bloomberg News was running stats from some nationwide poll. 80% think these judge nominees that Bush keeps pushing should be confirmed now; 78% think all these Dem objections are just silly-billy politics; and only 18% are very concerned about what is going on. Folks, that means that a good share of our own Dems cannot figure out what loading the courts with Repub judges means!!

This country is sooo loaded with politically ignorant morons that they cannot get even a remote connection that Repubs owning the entire judiciary is going to result in total control by the corporations; no worker rights nor contracts worth spit any longer; total errosion of civil, women's and worker's rights and protections, etc. I fail to see how any 'message' we might try to send these sheep will ever get through. The people of this country are totally gone with the wind and hopeless. They will easily be talked back into voting republican again and again because they honestly don't understand the connection to their own lives. The closest they've come is getting pissed was at the attack on Social Security. Otherwise they think we are marching "with God" and bringing "freedom around the world" and that surely "someone" will make sure that they don't end up without a job and economically ruined. You can't get anywhere with mentality like this.
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Deja Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-19-05 01:13 PM
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1. And when the economy is ruined, so is corporate power.
Edited on Sat Mar-19-05 01:17 PM by HypnoToad
Who'll do what then?

I'll be laughing, if nothing else.

Why laugh? Our 'society' is so splintered, divided. It encourages division. We're already dead. The impetus or catalyst hasn't made its impact yet and the core foundation of any long-term society, which is working forward for a COMMON GOOD (survival and prosperity) has been disintegrated by those in power. With no core foundation, when we fall, we will fall - into a bottomless pitt. Would you rebuild? Would you be listened to? Or will the shock of change make people terminally callous or disenfranchised? Many already are by terminal joblessness. People just won't CARE. Anyone who thinks there will be riots... are wrong. People just don't care. Except for themselves. And that is why our society will die.
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FloridaPat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-19-05 01:52 PM
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4. The corporations have factories in China. When our economy falls,
they just leave the bones behind. And as you pointed out, a lot of the people just don't care.
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PROGRESSIVE1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-19-05 01:13 PM
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2. Our downfall has come.
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beam me up scottie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-19-05 01:21 PM
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3. These are the same voters
that are going to storm Terri Schiavo's hospital room to bring her food and water.
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Mountainman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-19-05 01:57 PM
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5. I don't think that that figure is correct. Maybe propaganda from the
right.

It's like the social secrity debates. The more the people hear about the right's ideas the more they don't like them. I don't here in the media anything about what this battle means. We have no means to get our message out to people.

I just can't buy that figure. Just can't
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DemocracyInaction Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-19-05 02:11 PM
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9. Actually, Bloomberg, gives the news straight up and with not much
embellishment. I think that's because it's a place where investors go to find out what is going on in the world in order to make investment decisions. They also report very accurately on how badly Bush's SS plan is being received. To me the figures on this confirmation of judges doesn't surprise me at all. You can see shades of it in so much else. Why aren't the people going nutso on a whole long list of things that are gutting out their very eixtence?? It's because they don't feel all that touched by it---YET. If they can't react to certain economic things that should have them freaked, I certainly don't expect them to pick up the political and very real to their lives impact that a pot load of repub judges are going to do to them. In fact, if anything got through their stupid, stupid heads the republicans would be in such a minority, they wouldn't be able to get elected as local dogcathers.
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w4rma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-19-05 02:14 PM
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10. Bloomberg is the Republican mayor of New York.
How do you think he spins his news service?
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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-19-05 02:07 PM
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6. Every four years a bipartisan panel whose majority --
Edited on Sat Mar-19-05 02:58 PM by Old Crusoe
-- members represent the out-of-White-House party should nominate judges as positions become open.

For example, beginning this year with the GOP in the White House, Lee Hamilton would chair the panel. The GOP leader would be John Danforth. Other members of the panel would be of both parties and of high reputation. In other words, George Mitchell and not Zell Miller; Tom Keane and not Jesse Helms.

As the Greens and other parties gain prominence, their members would be added to the panel as well.

A seasoned & reasoned bipartisan panel would not nominate the racist bigots that Dubya is trying to shoe-horn into judicial posts; the country would not be divided on "activist judges" and other right-wing memes; and the resulting field of judicial candidates would round the edges of the ideological split in the courts.

Would it work?
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w4rma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-19-05 02:08 PM
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7. "59% said Bush should choose a supporter of Roe v. Wade"
Edited on Sat Mar-19-05 02:09 PM by w4rma

Fifty-nine percent said Bush should choose a supporter of Roe v. Wade, while 31 percent said they want a nominee who will try to overturn the decision, according to the poll. Support for Roe v. Wade was seen among both men and women, across most age and income groups, and in urban, suburban and rural areas, AP said.

More than 60 percent of all respondents said a nominee should reveal his or her position on abortion before Senate confirmation, according to the Nov. 19-21 telephone poll of 1,000 adults.

http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=10000103&sid=aR8KuF8.NIiE&refer=us

Make people understand that every single one of these 20 judges that the GOP wants to rubber stamp are anti-choice. Talk more about the specific reasons (instead of allowing big media to generalize only that they are "right-wing extremists") that they have been turned down.
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Tux Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-19-05 02:09 PM
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8. Our sorry nation
Most people don't care if the poor, "persecuted" CHristians create a theocracy just like the one we took out in Aphganistan. No one cares if unemployment gets worse, wages decrease, benefits disappear, and oure conomy collapses. No one cares because we'd have a 10 commandments monument on courthouse property, Christian laws that make the Puritans look liberal and killed off the godless non-Christians and gays.
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