Are you for or against it?

[Deja Q]

The DLC and other Dems who 'sell out', say 'me too' regarding Neocon plans, and so on? Drop some of our ideals so we'll ostensibly "have a chance" come next election?

Not to name-drop (or thread-drop), but this is one of a handful of posts that had piqued my interest.

[liberal N proud]

1. If the Democrats keep selling out, there will not be any choice in 06/08

If there is no opposition, then why would anyone vote for different representatives in government?
When the Democrats sell out in Congress, they become reukes!


Edit for typos

[sellitman]

2. If I wanted to be Repuke -like.....I'd vote that way

Turn the Democratic party and further right and I vote third party or stay home.


Turn left!!!!!!!!

[Deja Q]

3. Precisely.

I'll be hard pressed to vote in 2006. I see no real choice or differentiation; despite the lip service given by dems. (the last 5 years, too many Dems in office have voted for *'s bills - including the bankruptcy one.)

Of course, then I'll get blamed because the repukes win, despite the amount of crooked activity going on, and more paperless voting machines made by a giant bank firm that would otherwise DEMAND a paper trail because, doi, it's the banking industry. :eyes:

[sellitman]

5. It won't matter anyhow

If we don't fix the machines voting will CONTINUE to be a waste of time.

[blogbear]

4. When the Democrats Stood Their Ground..

they were the majority party..

[Deja Q]

6. Bingo. It's hard to whittle away at one's self,

and then re-claim what was lost should they win.

In other words, certain people are murdering the part from within. To spare the guilty, I'll spell out only the first letters of said organization, putting them in random order: LCD. And Bill Clinton was one of them too, I refuse to forget and I refuse to change my ideals. For the moment anyway. :7 (NAFTA, DOMA, DMCA, 1996 telecom act, 55mph speed limit rescind, 1995 welfare act that didn't stop corporate welfare, do I have to continue citing examples?)

[blogbear]

10. Not to me..

I'm convinced..

[Poppyseedman]

7. What most fail to realize is the Democratic party is dead

or at least on serious life support. Dean may be a doctor but it going to take more than Dr. Dean to revive this patient.

There has not been in the party a sell-able winning political idea in thirty years.

The party has been marginalized over time by fringe groups that refuse to compromise on issues that alienate people away from the party.

There is absolutely no party discipline and therefore no unified party message.

Just look at the MSM, it was at one time in our pocket, even they no longer believe the talking points.

A new party must have new leadership and develop a message besides "Bush and the GOP are Evil"

That simply isn't selling to the American public

[Discord]

8. just keep in mind...

The current makeup of the Dem party is no longer just Dems. Many 3rd party, left leaning moderates, independants, et all have joined the party in recent years to oppose the right wing agenda. face facts that you are no longer a pure-blood party at this time. many with differing views have joined the party to even give you all a snowballs chance in hell come election time. turn your backs on them at your own peril.

Edited to add: The way you word your question this is very close to being a push poll. I don't support the right wing agenda, and until this year I was never a registered Democrat, so how could I sell them out?

[Jesus Saves]

9. Some issues maybe we never should have engaged in the first place

like gun control.