Is Jeb Bush finished?

[More Than A Feeling]

Of all the possible Republican presidential candidates, he is the one that scares me the most.

So, my question is: Has Jeb's political future died with Terri Shiavo?

(I know he says he won't run. I trust him about as far as I could throw a birthday cake underwater)

[hippiepunk]

1. I hope so.

But Frist scares me more:scared:

[morcatknits]

5. They both scare me

However, I do think Jeb is more dangerous, and I'm willing to bet that he's not finished. They'll probably trot him out for the funeral of the Pope, in addition to shrub, and he will wind up rehabilitated before long. I hope I'm wrong, but that's my prediction.
morcatknits

[Clark2008]

12. I'm a Tennessean

Bill :scared: Frist absolutely FRIGHTENS me!

The Cadaver-in-Chief.... :freak:

[Placebo]

2. The cat-killer Frist is far more frightening.

And he gets scarier by the day.

[More Than A Feeling]

6. Frist has two things against him

1. He's a senator. Senators do not win presidencies. Two in modern times. That's a powerful jinx, and I don't think he is the man to overcome it.

2. He is a cat-killer. Murdering animals that are considered pets is powerful on a visceral level. People instinctively recoil in horror. If we refer to him as the catkiller with every breath, he'll fold like a lawn chair.

on edit: 3. If he invokes the nuclear option, the public will hate that.

[Stinky The Clown]

9. Three things against him, actually

Number 3 being he is so reptilian I dare say he can't get 75% of the votes monkeyman did.

[More Than A Feeling]

10. The primate vote just can't get excited for a lizard n/t

[yurbud]

11. craven more than reptilian. too obviously not his own man

[sendero]

25. And let's add..

.... Frist has the charisma of a garden slug. The man is not presidential material.

[LiberalFighter]

29. Senators that became Presidents

It takes more than being just a Senator.

James Monroe
1783-1786 Continental Congress Member
1790-1794 Senator
1794-1796 Minister to France
1799-1802 Governor of Virginia
1803-1807 Minister to France and England
1811-1817 Secretary of State
1814-1815 Secretary of War
1817-1825 President
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John Quincy Adams
1794-1794 Minister to the Netherlands
1797-1801 Minister to Prussia
1803-1808 Senator
1809-1811 Minister to Russia
1814-1814 Peace Commissioner at Treaty of Ghent
1817-1825 Secretary of State
1825-1829 President
1831-1848 Representative
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Andrew Jackson
1796-1797 Representative
1797-1798 Senator
1798-1804 Justice on Tennessee Supreme Court
1812-1821 War of 1812 / Battle of New Orleans
1821-1821 Governor of Florida Territory
1823-1825 Senator
1829-1837 President
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Martin Van Buren
1821-1829 Senator
1829-1829 Governor New York
1829-1831 Secretary of State
1831-1831 Minister to England
1833-1837 Vice President
1837-1841 President
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William Henry Harrison
1798-1798 Secretary of Northwest Territory
1799-1801 Territorial Delegate to Congress
1801-1813 Territorial Governor of Indiana
1813-1814 Brigadier General US Army, Commander in Northwest
1816-1819 Ohio Congressman
1819-1821 Ohio Senate
1825-1828 Senator
1828-1829 Minister to Colombia
1841-1841 President
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John Tyler
1811-1816 Virginia House of Delegates Member
1816-1821 US Representative
1823-1825 Virginia State Legislator
1825-1826 Governor of Virginia
1827-1836 Senator
1841-1841 Vice President
1841-1845 President (Never Elected)
1861-1862 Confederate States Congress Member
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Franklin Pierce
1829-1833 New Hampshire Legislature
1833-1837 US Representative
1837-1842 Senator
1847- Brigadier-General Mexican War
1853-1857 President
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James Buchanan
1815-1816 Pennsylvania House of Representatives Member
1821-1831 US Representative
1832-1834 Minister to Russia
1834-1845 Senator
1845-1849 Secretary of State
1853-1856 Minister to England
1857-1861 President
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Andrew Johnson
1830-1833 Alderman of Greeneville, Tennessee
1834-1834 Mayor of Greeneville, Tennessee
1835-1843 Tennessee State Legislature
1843-1853 US Representative
1853-1857 Governor of Tennessee
1857-1862 Senator
1862-1865 Military Governor of Tennessee
1865-1865 Vice President
1865-1869 President
1875-1875 Senator
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Benjamin Harrison
1861-1865 70th Indiana Infantry Colonel, Brevet rank of Bridadier Colonel
1881-1887 Senator
1889-1893 President
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Warren G. Harding
1900-1904 Ohio State Senate
1904-1906 Lt Governor of Ohio
1915-1921 Senator
1921-1923 President
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Harry S. Truman
1922-1924 Jackson County Court Judge
1926-1934 Jackson County Court Presiding Judge
1935-1945 Senator
1945-1945 Vice President
1945-1953 President
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John F. Kennedy
1941-1945 Navy PT-109 Commander
1947-1953 US Representative
1953-1960 Senator
1961-1963 President
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Lyndon B. Johnson
1931-1937 Congressional Secretary
1937-1949 US Representative
1949-1961 Senator
1961-1963 Vice President
1963-1969 President
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Richard M. Nixon
1947-1951 US Representative
1951-1953 Senator
1953-1961 Vice President
1969-1974 President

[XemaSab]

33. Interesting that Kennedy and Harrison

are the only two presidents who were almost exclusively senators (military command experience notwithstanding).

I don't know Harrison from a hole in the ground, but Kennedy had MOUNTAINS of charisma, like some unholy combination of Reagan, Clinton, and who knows who else.

Listening to his old speeches, he sounds incredibly resolute and speaks in very simple, but powerful soundbites.

That's what we need to return to.... someone who can take project a moral vision.

[LiberalFighter]

26. Let's round up all the feral cats and let loose on him.

[davidinalameda]

3. he's just started

he's gonna ride that poor woman's corpse into the White House

and remember, he's the smart one

[imenja]

4. I hope you're right

I think this Schiavo thing tarnished him. He managed to piss off normal people and disappoint the Christian right.

[jean]

7. I sure hope so - just yesterday I saw a Jeb Bush 2008 bumpersticker

here in MN - really freaked me out.

[Erika]

8. His daughter, Noelle, would be sentenced to life

under the three strikes law in my state. I wonder how she coasted under Florida law. Jeb is a total failure to improve the lot of mainstream and needy Floridians as he promised to do.

[yurbud]

13. What he has going for him

media that will look the other way on crack whore daughter

voting machines

big business money

any dem he runs against will be called a satan worshipping communist lesbian.

[Journeyman]

14. I suspect -- or maybe I just hope -- the nation will be quite tired. . .

if not fed-up with Bushboys by 2008. George W's a grating personality, and as he loses the veneer of support he's enjoyed so far, the people will be less enchanted with him with every further blunder he commits. . . and I believe we'll see a lot of them in the coming years.

[woodleydem]

15. Jeb will run in 2012. He knows that "Bush fatigue" will prevent him from

winning in 2008. Besides, Jeb has already said, "Read my lips. I will not run in 2008." He didn't shut the door for future campaigns after 2008, but he pretty much shut the door in 2008. IMO, he's not as good a candidate as George W. Chimp boy is seen by many as down-to-earth and folksy, kind of the anti-Washington politician. Jeb is an intellectual, more like his father. He can come off as snobbish at times, and that will hurt him. I wouldn't be surprised, though, if he challenged Bill Nelson in 2006 for a Senate seat.

[physioex]

16. It seems everyone is forgetting to mention...

That the fundies are very angry with Jeb. This does not bode well for him....

[wakeme2008]

17. As a Florida person, I really

do believe he plan to be "drafted" in 2008. The Terri S. mess just killed that draft. I think the fundies will kill any chance of Jeb running against Nelson in 2006. Just all my opinion.

[DoYouEverWonder]

18. Jeb won't be finished

until we stop ether voting and absentee ballot fraud. Until then he can get elected to anything he wants.

[Rebellious Republican]

19. My sentiments exactly DYEW! Jeb's the next President Select I fear.

:argh:

[SpaceBuddy008]

20. 1/4th of YOUR Life under_a_BOO!ssh ! can U STAND IT !!

ReaGone/Bush really Bush1 80-88= 8

Bush41 = 4

Bush43 = 5...3 more??? total = 20

average life span = ~72

MORE THAN 1/4th

the way I see it if we ImPeach Bush/Cheney...someone
had great argument that we should start with Cheney

IF we do that ! THEN Jeb is DONE.

what kind of name is 'Jeb' anywho's short for Jebediah or somethin'?

news coverage of Veterans For Peace contact of ALL Representatives
to demand impeachment proceedings to commence @

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=Veterans+Group+Calls+on+Congress+to+Impeach+George+W.+Bush+and+Richard+Cheney&btnG=Google+Search

Web Results 1 - 10 of about 52,100 for Veterans Group Calls on Congress to Impeach George W. Bush and Richard Cheney. (0.15 seconds

DU on page 2

Democratic Underground
... Veterans Group Calls on Congress to Impeach George W. Bush & Richard Cheney
... In a letter sent to each member of the US House and Senate, Veterans For ...
www.democraticunderground.com/ - 50k - Apr 1, 2005 - Cached - Similar pages

WE MIGHT HAVE MADE PAGE 1 IF MY POST TO brnews forum on March21

was called out for 'not a news source' and locked and moved to GD
I HEARD THIS LIVE AT A ANNIVERSARY RALLY

I am not upset about this though, because I did not have press release
my source was www.smirkingchimp.com
just pointing out as did in Neil Young thread the potential of DU being considered a 'news source' can't wait on AP or CorpMedia.
*****
http://www.veteransforpeace.org/

also in tribute to recent pie smackdown of Billy Kristol see...
www.pieman.org
*****



Jeb Declared Martial
Law In FL On 9-7
Dubya's Obscure 'Goat Story'
From William
[e-mail]
9-23-1
http://www.rense.com/general14/jebdeclared.htm

[flpoljunkie]

23. Jeb is short for John Ellis Bush.

[John_H]

21. I don't think Jeb will risk a run in 08, but if he does

never underestimate the power of the BFEE or the cravenness of the state run media.

[SpaceBuddy008]

24. never underestimate the power of New CitizenMedia

and the fact that history, sanity, truth, the needs of the very Future
and the state of the environment
IS ON OUR SIDE

get to work
quit naysayin'
we can make it happen
and take charge of hiStory OurStory!



any VfP comments, or DU on page2 comments?

[bread_and_roses]

22. These ghoul creatures are never finished...

...they rise like the Living Dead, immune to garlic and stakes, feeding off the lifeblood of every living creature on earth. They will not be satisfied until their appetite for death and destruction is sated - which will be never.

[Mutley]

27. Jebbie pissed off a lot of

the Christian fundies out there...

Unless their selective memories kick in I think it could mean the end of little jebbies political career... at least i can hope.

[Vickers]

30. Fundies? Selective memories? NEVER!

:P

[Mutley]

31. he he

:D ;-)

[newportdadde]

28. I wish he was but no he is not.

2008 is a long way away in TV MSM land. The fundies are upset now but all he has to do is pimp abortion etc and they will line up to vote for him thats the way it works..

Fundies will always turn back to the RW no matter how mad they get in the shortterm.

[Zhade]

32. No Republican is finished as long as we have Diebold.

Game, set, match.