Whenever you think the DNC is not speaking out.....go here .

[madfloridian]

This is the press release page. They release it to the press, and yet the press covers very little of it.

http://www.democrats.org/press/index.html

Apr 12, 2005: Republicans vs. Republicans, Extremists Continue to Dominate Agenda

Apr 11, 2005: The Republican Legacy: Deception, Divisiveness, and Debt

Apr 8, 2005: GOP in Disarray, In-Fighting Between Bush, Senators

Apr 8, 2005: Gov. Dean Announces Half Million Dollar Investment in State Parties

Apr 8, 2005: Growing Discontent With GOP Among Americans

Apr 8, 2005: Gov. Howard Dean Calls on Speaker Hastert to Stop Protecting Tom Delay's Corrupt Activities

Apr 7, 2005: Poll: Majority of Independents Oppose Nuclear Option

Apr 7, 2005: Bush: Americans' Savings "Worthless IOUs"

Apr 7, 2005: Republicans Admit to Authoring Political Memo in Schiavo Case

Apr 6, 2005: USA Today: "Support Continues to Erode" For Republican Agenda

Apr 6, 2005: New Report: African Americans Losing Ground Under Republican Agenda

Apr 6, 2005: Bush Privatization Plan 'Takes Away' Benefits

Apr 4, 2005: Abuse of Power

Apr 4, 2005: Americans Remain Opposed to Privatization

Apr 4, 2005: Democratic National Committee Remembers Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr.

Apr 2, 2005: Democratic National Committee Statement on the Passing of Pope John Paul II

Mar 31, 2005: Social Security Privatization Hurts Women

Mar 31, 2005: Bush: The Buck Stops Somewhere Else

Mar 31, 2005: Gov. Dean Statement Commemorating Cesar Chavez Day

Mar 30, 2005: Will Bush Talk About the Real Crisis in Iowa?

Mar 29, 2005: Local Residents Blacklisted from Bush Town Hall Events

Mar 29, 2005: Secret Service Now Investigating Bush Black List

Mar 28, 2005: Death of a Sales Pitch: Final Four Edition

Mar 28, 2005: Corporate Restructuring: Americans Lose Out

Mar 25, 2005: President's Approval Ratings Lowest Ever

Mar 23, 2005: March Madness!!! Bush Administration Rolls Back Title IX

Mar 23, 2005: DoSP: Bush Admits His Proposal "Not the Way to Fix the System"

Mar 22, 2005: Washington Republicans Want to Turn a Guaranteed Benefit Into a Guaranteed Gamble

Mar 21, 2005: Republicans Hold Mock Town Hall Meeting, Can't Sell the Plan In Real Ones

Mar 17, 2005: Death of a Sales Pitch: You Go First, Then I'll Go

AND that is only the first page.

[Dickie Flatt]

1. Better under Dean

I visited that page each day through the election, but it was always a few days behind. One of the first thing I notiecd when Dean took over is that the news page is always up to date.

[magellan]

2. This makes me very sad and angry

I had no idea these press releases were being put out, and I consider myself informed! GD'it, what do the Dems have to do to get attention from the "liberal media"??

[FreedomAngel82]

3. Next time

someone tells you the media is liberal ask them why hasn't Howard Dean been in the news any? :eyes: Use this against them.

[madfloridian]

4. That was his choice for now, to deflect attention from himself.

Like working under the radar, only giving local interviews. I hope he gets the basic work done and gives interviews soon. We need his voice.

[Dr Fate]

6. How about SAYING IT aloud on TV instead of just "releasing" it.

Dean needs to go on the interview & debate shows and talk about these things.

DNC: "See- we really do fight- didn't you read that website at 12:00AM last night? Now, about that check..."

[Dr Fate]

5. Swing voters dont go to the DNC website.

They watch TV and read the local papers.

Dean is working on the local coverage- but he needs to go on those interview & debate shows a little more.

I dont qualify "releases" that only the base reads as "speaking out"- I hope a lot of these ended up in papers- did they?

These releases are great, but the only wat to really gurantee that the points are heard is to go directly on TV and say them.

[AntiCoup2K4]

7. But swing voters WILL notice what takes place in their own states.

Dean is working to re-energize the party on the local levels, rather than have it be the centralized, DLC controlled national party as it has been in recent years. Dean made this clear when he was running for this office, and it has a lot to do with why he got such a huge nationwide wave of support from us Democrats.

Once these state & local organizations kick it into gear for 2006, the swing voters will have to take notice, regardless of whether FAUX and the Corporatist News Nutjobs pretend they don't exist.

[Dr Fate]

8. I acknowledge that Dean is doing great things on the local level...

...my point is that "releasing" statements on a website is not really fighting, or "speaking out" in any practical sense.

Making pointed and blunt charges to a Republican's face, on TV-that is more like fighting.

[tsuki]

9. And how does he do that? TeeVee New$ hardly carries the war,

much less anything Dean might say.

[Dr Fate]

10. By going on local & national network & cable debate/interview shows

And saying it yourself instead of relying on a republican controlled media to say it for you.

Other big-name DEMS could also go on TV and say the things in these press releases.

They need to cut the nuance and start making some blunt, controversial statements that will get repeated.

[KoKo]

16. He will be on with three conservatives who will shout him down. If he

goes on Russert he will be grilled like he's a criminal. Don't you ever wonder why only Biden, Lieberman and Dodd ever appear on those shows?

Think about it.

Given the mess our party is in and our State Dem Parties, too, it will take a long time to undo the damage that's been done. Dean is going about it the right way with energizing and giving money to the grassroots who are trying to make a change.

I say this because our local parties are in most cases lazy or as in bed with the Corporate interests in their states as our National Party is. Believe me on this...I learned in the last year when I got involved.

I've never even posted on DU half of what I've seen and learned because it would have discouraged everyone so badly.

Dean is going about it the right way, but he doesn't have much help. It isn't up to him to be an Atlas Shouldering the Dem Party. And, he constantly being attacked and undermined by the DLC whose biggest loyalty is to the Corporatist interests.

We have to hope that new voices emerge soon. We can't count on those who've held office in DC to give us much help. With the exception of the Black Caucus who has really stood up against what's been going on?

[Dr Fate]

17. Poor baby. Try campaigning in Georgia sometime.

Whether he can get on the shows and say what is in these releases is a different issue from how difficult it will be to handle a pile on debate. it's not as hard to debate these guys as some say- I've seen it done.

Debating 3 lying idiots as opposed to one lying idiot is not much harder- you just need to be blunt, repetitive and agressive. Then you have antother DEM go ont the next night- or you go on a different show the next night and follow up. The trick is you never let up- you keep on hammering the questions or talking points.

We cant say "Its too hard to debate-they are so mean to us" on one hand, and then on the other hand complain that Republicans are not repeating our talking points for us. Someone needs to go on these shows and take them on.

I've debated 3 or 4 Republicans at once nearly everyday of my life when I lived in GA- and I won those debates too- by using non-nuanced, blunt facts.

If I can do it, Dean, Kerry, etc can do it.

[Dr Fate]

11. kick

kick

[realFedUp]

12. Air America radio hosts

should spend their first minutes talking
about these points and saying DNC over
and over. Get Dean on more often. Coordinate
the talking points (wow, that would be novel)

[madfloridian]

13. You guys keep enjoying AAR.

We are among the ones who lost a lot of money by trusting them and investing in a Sirius radio set-up with outside antenna and all. My husband unplugged the whole deal last night and put it away.

We are disgusted that those of us who spent money to help them are being left behind. We don't listen.

[realFedUp]

14. oops

sorry about that.

[madfloridian]

15. DNC vice chair has thread going at Kos with Q&A...Susie Turnbull.

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2005/4/13/113857/852

[Dr Fate]

18. Quite interesting- I would like for her to come to DU.

n/t

[madfloridian]

21. I have a strange feeling she would pass on that.

For now.

[madfloridian]

19. Deception, Divisiveness and Debt....DNC goes after GOP.

http://www.democrats.org/specialreports/ddd/index.html

George Bush's failure to stand up to extremists in his party has created a Republican party drunk with power who'll stop at nothing to get what they want. From their failure to hold Tom DeLay accountable for his numerous ethics abuses, threats to obliterate 200 years of senate rules with their so called "nuclear option", squandering the surplus for tax cuts that will now heap trillions in debt onto future generations, using personal issues to divide Americans, threatening judges and misleading the American public on everything from WMD to social security.

Here are some of the latest examples of the shameful republican legacy of deception, divisiveness and debt:

Cornyn, DeLay Threaten Judges

Bush Is Presiding Over a $7.2 Trillion Fiscal Collapse.

Bush: Said American Owned Bonds are Worthless "IOUs."

Bush Is Saddling Future Generations Will Trillions in Debt.

Republicans Deceived Media, American People on the Existence of Political Schiavo Memo.

Read more on each one at the site.

[ClassWarrior]

20. So much for that idiotic thread last week that said, "No more...

...blaming the media."

<LOL>

NGU.

[Dr Fate]

22. That was my"idiotic" thread, and this one only helps to prove my point.

This thread only verifies what I was saying.

We need to stop "releasing" talking points and then blaming the Republican media for not repeating them.

It would be much more effective to send top, house hold name DEMs like Kerry, Dean, Hilary or Obama on the debate shows to SAY these things- what good does "releasing" info into the ether do?

I'm sure we agree that the media is pro-Republican- but they still do allow all the top-name DEMS on their shows. If Kerry or Hilary is not allowed on particular interview or debate shows, I'll need evidence.

My point in that other thread was that we cant blame the media for what many DEMS refuse to say. I stand by all of my previous comments.

[ClassWarrior]

23. That's true, but it doesn't absolve the Corporate Media for their crimes.

I'd rather condemn our enemies and give our allies the benefit of the doubt, rather than the other way around. And I don't know about you, but I've joined my county party with an eye to having some influence on exactly the kind of things you mention.

NGU.

[Dr Fate]

24. I'm happy that we basically agree!!!!

You are right- we can never forget who we are up against- but we cant use it as a constant excuse for what many DEMs will not say, even when they are allowed a forum.

We cant really expect Wolf Blitzer(R) to talk about, say Jeff Gannon for example, if George Bush or John Kerry, Hilary, Dean etc is not talking about him either. ZThat was my point.

Also-thanx for calling CNN today- great job! Cheers to you for getting involved locally as well- in a few weeks could you please start a thread on your progress?

[Dr Fate]

25. kick

n/t