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bobthedrummer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-13-05 12:14 PM
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Latest neocon target: The Vatican by Wayne Madsen
Edited on Wed Apr-13-05 12:18 PM by bobthedrummer
http://www.globalresearch.ca/articles/MAD504A.html

on edit: let's discuss this article's implications.
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Melodybe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-13-05 12:23 PM
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1. It is fucking scary! The pope at least hated Bush
Edited on Wed Apr-13-05 12:23 PM by Melodybe
My only comfort in all of this is that the Vatican won't like Bushco stepping on their toes.

I pray for a semi-decent pope.
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bobthedrummer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-13-05 12:29 PM
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3. If only the first John Paul had cleaned up corruption as he promised
instead of being Pope for 34 days. I hope a decent Pope is chosen absent the neocon influence. I also love Israel but I renounced Zionism years ago.
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-13-05 12:56 PM
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4. Was it natural....or (dum, dum, dum!),,,,Muuuuuuurder?????
He had a lot of big ideas, that Smiling Pope. Rumors abounded after his death that he was offed.
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bobthedrummer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-13-05 01:00 PM
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5. He wasn't the only Pope to perish under somewhat mysterious
circumstances-John Paul was pronounced in excellent health according to Vatican medical staff at the time.
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RevCheesehead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-13-05 12:23 PM
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2. why do I even read this? I think I'm going to be sick.
Above all, I believe in the Holy Spirit, whom I hope is at work in the institutional Church (she's going to be awfully busy, though).
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Tux Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-13-05 01:00 PM
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6. Crazy
It's sad that an international church would lower itself to the politics of a meglamaniac and his thugs. Isn't the Pope supposed to represent god or Jesus or the horse he rode in on instead of representing some national power they agree with?
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Avalux Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-13-05 01:05 PM
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7. I posted this last week, I put it in the PNAC forum too
Just one more piece of the puzzle for the neocons. They need a Pope who will be willing to allow "just wars" or in truth, look the other away when another war is started for oil.

While * was in Rome, he had a private meeting with American cardinals. Wonder what they discussed?
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liam_laddie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-13-05 01:49 PM
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8. RC influence?
Might some look into the background of Opus Dei?
There are so many dots that might connect into a spiderweb
of mythic proportions...As the Shadow said "Who knows what goes on in the hearts of men?" (IIRC)
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bobthedrummer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-13-05 04:33 PM
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9. The traitor in the FBI, Robert Hanssen was involved with Opus Dei.
Isn't it very conservative, I'm rather ignorant of its dogma.
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dogman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-13-05 04:42 PM
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10. Hasn't Madsen been discredited enough?
I can't believe anyone would take him seriously. Just because his slant is from the left and he says what people wish to believe doesn't make it real.
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kenny blankenship Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-13-05 05:02 PM
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11. if this wacko said
the sky was blue, I'd call NOAA to check before believing it.
If he said the Pope was still dead, I'd ask a priest.
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