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wyldwolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-16-05 05:04 PM
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Dean: Schiavo case to be used against GOP in elections
Democratic National Committee Chairman Howard Dean, who has accused congressional Republicans of "grandstanding" in the Terri Schiavo case, said his party will use it against the GOP in coming elections.
"This is going to be an issue in 2006, and its going to be an issue in 2008 because we're going to have an ad with a picture of (House Majority Leader) Tom DeLay saying, 'Do you want this guy to decide whether you die or not? Or is that going to be up to your loved ones?'" Dean said in West Hollywood, Calif.

Dean, answering questions at an Access Now for Gay and Lesbian Equality event on Friday, went on to say: "The issue is: Are we going to live in a theocracy where the highest powers tell us what to do? Or are we going to be allowed to consult our own high powers when we make very difficult decisions?'"

Republican National Committee spokeswoman (and obvious hypocrit)Tracey Schmitt said Dean, a physician who practiced internal medicine, was the one politicizing the issue.

"It's disturbing that Howard Dean would plot to use the life of Terri Schiavo for political gain," Schmitt said Saturday. "This demonstrates a troubling lack of sensitivity and one would hope that Democrat leaders in Congress would reject such a strategy.

"The American people expect their leaders to provide solutions and principled leadership rather than overt partisan politicking (unless it's the Republicans)."

http://www.usatoday.com/news/washington/2005-04-16-dean-schiavo_x.htm
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Leilani Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-16-05 05:19 PM
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1. Good for Dr Dean
& Frist is going to make it more of an issue when he does his performance with the Fundie Religious people.

I hope Dean emphasizes his credentials as a physician; medicine is not political or religious.
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Leilani Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-16-05 06:25 PM
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9. I just read the other thread pertaining to this discussion
& it's hard to tell whether it was framed correctly, but it will be an issue.

I don't like the "using Terri Schiavo" thing, but the larger issue of govt vs privacy, religion vs medicine should be used.
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-16-05 07:27 PM
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16. Right
I think that's more so what Dean is going to do. I hope so and am glad. :D We can probably use this to help some in 2006. I remember reading a lot of republicans were pissed at this.
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Goldeneye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-16-05 05:26 PM
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2. There was a post about this earlier
Edited on Sat Apr-16-05 05:31 PM by Goldeneye
and in that one there was a direct Dean quote saying

"We are going to use Terri Schiavo later on."


ed...here's the link from this morning:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=102x1398912
:spank: :eyes: :thumbsdown: That's not going to be good...
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ClarkUSA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-16-05 05:43 PM
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4. Bad "framing" of a good idea
No politician should "using" Terri Schiavo for anything, IMO.

Calling George Lakoff!
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-16-05 06:01 PM
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5. Buzzflash likes it!
"DEAN SOCKS IT TO DELAY"
"Do you want this guy to decide whether you die or not..Are we going to live in a theorocracy?"


http://www.buzzflash.com/
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KittyWampus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-16-05 06:11 PM
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7. Not If Dean Actually Said "We're Going To Use T. Schiavo"
but then, maybe he didn't even say that and the article that quoted him was heavily edited.
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janx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-16-05 06:14 PM
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8. That was my thought in the LBN thread.
It's interesting that this article makes no mention of it.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-16-05 06:42 PM
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10. And the Democrat got the last
word in the article..amazing!

"Karen Finney, Democratic National Committee spokeswoman, defended Dean's comments, saying they were not a reflection of him trying to politicize the issue, but rather he was speaking to "Republican intrusiveness into people's lives."

"This is another example of a Republican party that is overreaching," she said. "Tom Delay and his cronies want to intrude in personal family matters. Democrats believe that individuals and their families should be trusted to make these very personal decisions, not Tom DeLay and not the government."


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MollyStark Donating Member (816 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-16-05 06:58 PM
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13. I think all the fussing over his choice of words is wussy
Are we going to agonize over every phrase now and panic everytime we think repugs might have "something to use against us"?
History shows they will just make stuff up anyway. Don't you argree?
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-17-05 03:33 PM
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18. Yes, I agree..
And I think those who are wussed out on this should write Chair Dean in care of the DNC and tell them what they think. He'd love to hear from them, n'est-ce pas?
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KittyWampus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-16-05 06:10 PM
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6. One Wonders If Dean Actually Even Said That... Or If His Statements
were purposefully distorted/edited.
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Goldeneye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-16-05 06:50 PM
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11. I was wondering that myself since USAtoday didn't have it
in their article. But the LA times seems reliable, so I'm not really sure.
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janx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-16-05 07:04 PM
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14. I have emailed Mr. Finnegan, the LA Times reporter
and anxiously await his reply.
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Goldeneye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-16-05 07:20 PM
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15. If it turns out Dean didn't say it,
you should definately make a post. A lot of people were bothered by that quote.
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janx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-16-05 07:41 PM
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17. I'll post about it if Mr. Finnegan replies. n/t
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Gothmog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-16-05 05:33 PM
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3. This may be a good issue for 2006 and 2008
The polls show that main stream america is uncomfortable with the GOP being so tied to the right wing religious groups. We need to exploit this.
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ulysses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-16-05 06:56 PM
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12. GOOD. n/t
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flpoljunkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-17-05 06:30 PM
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19. If this is the best Dems can do in '06, we are screwed!
Edited on Sun Apr-17-05 06:33 PM by flpoljunkie
This may be all that is left snce the Democrats sold out the American people by enabling the Rethugs to pass the one-sided bankruptcy bill.

But it ain't gonna cut it. James Carville was right. It is the economic stupid--in this case economic justice and fairness--American people deserve decent health insurance with their jobs and not to be ripped off by credit card companies.

This is something the American people could rally around, but the Democrats blew it.

Saving Social Security and blocking a few right-wing judges is not enough for me to feel that my party is the democratic party I believe in and wish to support.

What will their motto be--vote for us, we are not as corrupt as the Rethugs!
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