38 Republican senators vote against armor for Humvees

[quaoar]

http://www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/roll_call_lists/roll_call_vote_cfm.cfm?congress=109&session=1&vote=00108

The Senate voted 61-39 to approve an amendment to add $213 million for more armor for Humvees in Iraq.

What possible justification do the 39 (38 Republicans, 1 Democrat) have for voting no?

[Clarkie1]

1. Anyone who lives in a state represented by those 39

needs to start writing LTTE a.s.a.p!

I hope the a family member of one of our fallen soldiers writes one. I hope they write many.

[uppityperson]

2. Inouye voted no, 17 repubs yes

AMENDMENT PURPOSE:
To appropriate an additional $213,000,000 for Other Procurement, Army, for the procurement of Up-Armored High Mobility Multipurpose Wheeled Vehicles (UAHMMWVs).

[quaoar]

11. Thanks for pointing that out

I missed Inouye, but have edited the OP now.

[paineinthearse]

19. Inouye must go!

First ANWAR, now this. What is he thinking?

[IronLionZion]

29. Senator Inouye is speaking at my graduation

What the fuck was he thinking? I thought he was one of the good guys :shrug:

:wtf:

[Renew Deal]

30. WTF is wrong with him?

Why is he making deals with these guys? I will never forget ANWR.

[AuntiBush]

33. What's up w/Inouye?

They need to bump him out. ASAP!

[OneTwentyoNine]

38. That guy votes with Repukes more than Lieberman......n/t

[Vickers]

3. Inouye voted no?!?!?!?!?!

:wtf:

[marmar]

4. Typical low-blow Republican antics

Every day I think the Repubs' actions will reach their absolute lowest level. Every day they prove me wrong.

:evilfrown:

[Joey Liberal]

5. Thank you republicans

This is a great gift from the wacko republicans.

[bushisanidiot]

6. Repukes are pro-miltary WEAPONRY, but anti-military PERSONNEL

they don't give a rats ass about our troops!! they keep proving it over and over!

[Nikki Stone 1]

10. I think you hit the nail on the head

I can't believe that they would begrudge soldiers 213 mil on protective armor when they are currently spending 300 BILLION (and counting) on the war.

[peacetalksforall]

7. Unbelievable....how could anyone not vote to assist - what is there

reason.

All the lap dogs voted yes - Thune, Coleman, Martinez, Sununu.

But what is wrong with Inouye?

Even Biden and Nelson got it right this time.

[atreides1]

8. Before You Make Any Decisions

You better read the bill that the amendment was attached to.
Look up HR 1268, which also involves establishing regulations for State driver's licenses and Identification cards.

Big brother is getting bigger!!!!!

[Nikki Stone 1]

12. Yikes.

It would have to be a rider on that kind of bill.

[peacetalksforall]

13. I just entered HR 1268 and got words about toxic mold...did they really

combine toxic mold with something about Homeland Security licenses and id cards with armour for Humvees? It's time to protest the dirty dealing. I don't get it. This is a filthy way to operate.

And I don't have time to learn tonight.

Someone, please save us.

We don't have leaders in Washingtonm, we have TRAITORS.

[IronLionZion]

31. They pull this shit all the time

They always tack on amendments that have nothing to with the bill. They often sneak it in. It blows and I think it is a very retarded practice but Senator Byrd (D-WV) is famous for using this practice to funnel money into his state. "Pork-barrel" is where they use this to help their state or special interest.

The actual Senators don't read each and every part of everything they vote on. Sometimes their staff doesn't either. That's congress for you. :shrug: It's fucked up.

[whistle]

9. I guess flag waving and war is fine, but keeping the troops safe

...is not a priority with 39 republicans. They need to stand up and be counted, then asked why $213 million for protection was voted down by them.

Is there a list of the senators who voted "nay"? Oh, here they are, both the "yeas" and "nays":

Grouped By Vote Position YEAs ---61
Akaka (D-HI)
Alexander (R-TN)
Allen (R-VA)
Baucus (D-MT)
Bayh (D-IN)
Biden (D-DE)
Bingaman (D-NM)
Boxer (D-CA)
Burns (R-MT)
Byrd (D-WV)
Cantwell (D-WA)
Carper (D-DE)
Chafee (R-RI)
Clinton (D-NY)
Coleman (R-MN)
Collins (R-ME)
Conrad (D-ND)
Corzine (D-NJ)
Dayton (D-MN)
DeWine (R-OH)
Dodd (D-CT)
Dorgan (D-ND)
Durbin (D-IL)
Feingold (D-WI)
Feinstein (D-CA)
Harkin (D-IA)
Hutchison (R-TX)
Jeffords (I-VT)
Johnson (D-SD)
Kennedy (D-MA)
Kerry (D-MA)
Kohl (D-WI)
Landrieu (D-LA)
Lautenberg (D-NJ)
Leahy (D-VT)
Levin (D-MI)
Lieberman (D-CT)
Lincoln (D-AR)
Lott (R-MS)
Lugar (R-IN)
Martinez (R-FL)
McCain (R-AZ)
Mikulski (D-MD)
Murray (D-WA)
Nelson (D-FL)
Nelson (D-NE)
Obama (D-IL)
Pryor (D-AR)
Reed (D-RI)
Reid (D-NV)
Rockefeller (D-WV)
Salazar (D-CO)
Santorum (R-PA)
Sarbanes (D-MD)
Schumer (D-NY)
Snowe (R-ME)
Specter (R-PA)
Stabenow (D-MI)
Talent (R-MO)
Thune (R-SD)
Wyden (D-OR)

NAYs ---39
Allard (R-CO)
Bennett (R-UT)
Bond (R-MO)
Brownback (R-KS)
Bunning (R-KY)
Burr (R-NC)
Chambliss (R-GA)
Coburn (R-OK)
Cochran (R-MS)
Cornyn (R-TX)
Craig (R-ID)
Crapo (R-ID)
DeMint (R-SC)
Dole (R-NC)
Domenici (R-NM)
Ensign (R-NV)
Enzi (R-WY)
Frist (R-TN)
Graham (R-SC)
Grassley (R-IA)
Gregg (R-NH)
Hagel (R-NE)
Hatch (R-UT)
Inhofe (R-OK)
Inouye (D-HI)
Isakson (R-GA)
Kyl (R-AZ)
McConnell (R-KY)
Murkowski (R-AK)
Roberts (R-KS)
Sessions (R-AL)
Shelby (R-AL)
Smith (R-OR)
Stevens (R-AK)
Sununu (R-NH)
Thomas (R-WY)
Vitter (R-LA)
Voinovich (R-OH)
Warner (R-VA)

[AntiCoup2K4]

20. Did Inouye swap brains with "man on dog" Santorum?

Weird....

[Dave Sund]

28. The worst thing about it?

Every single "no" vote is safe. We could use it against them, sure, but none of them are going to lose. The only "no" vote that isn't going to be back in 2007 is Bill Frist, and that's only because he's retiring.

[Vektor]

14. Self delete

Question answered.

[TorchTheWitch]

15. all 39 of those crap-headed no voters

should be strapped into unarmored humvees, get driven around Iraq for an hour or so and THEN asked to vote... they'd be pooping their pants and BEGGING for armor.

[wicket]

16. kick

:kick:

[Arugula Latte]

17. This should be used against them next time they're up for re-election

You can just hear the announcer's voice: "...but Senator X voted Noooo on protecting our troops. Call Senator X and ask him why he hates our American soldiers."

[Hello_Kitty]

18. Damn straight

And don't forget those who voted AGAINST provisions in the "Morally Bankrupt" Act that would protect soldiers deployed to Iraq from losing their homes if they are forced to file.

[Roland99]

21. Other items in the amendment...

http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/F?r109:1:./temp/~r109sEAEfx:e92268:
Page: S3853
AIRCRAFT CARRIERS OF THE NAVY
AIRCRAFT CARRIERS OF THE NAVY
CHAPTER 5
DEPARTMENT OF DEFENSE
Houston-Galveston Navigation Channels, Texas
CONSTRUCTION
CHAPTER
ELECTION REFORM
Election Assistance Commission
ELECTION REFORM PROGRAMS
Department of Health and Human Services
DISABLED VOTER SERVICES
MEDICAL SUPPORT FOR TACTICAL UNITS

[The Blue Knight]

23. We need to use this vote against the aforenamed Senators

[spunky]

22. This is a wide ranging bill to say the least

http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bdquery/z?d109:HR01268:@@@L&summ2=m&

includes:

(Sec. 1111) Increases the: (1) maximum benefit under the Servicemen's Group Life Insurance program from $250,000 to $400,000 (or lesser amounts as a member may elect); and (2) military death gratuity from $12,000 to $100,000. Provides a special death gratuity of up to $150,000 with respect to service designated by the Secretary as a combat operation or a zone of combat. Terminates such increases at the end of FY 2005. Provides an additional death gratuity of $238,000 for deaths that occur before the enactment of this Act in combat operations, in a combat zone, or in Operations Enduring Freedom or Iraqi Freedom.




Makes emergency supplemental appropriations for: (1) international disaster and famine assistance; (2) transition initiatives for Sudan; (3) the U.S. Agency for International Development (USAID); (4) the Economic Support Fund; (5) assistance for the independent states of the former Soviet Union; (6) international narcotics control and law enforcement; (7) migration and refugee assistance; (8) nonproliferation, anti-terrorism, demining and related programs; (9) economic support requirements of the Global War on Terror; (10) the Foreign Military Financing Program; and (11) peacekeeping operations.






And the one I find most interesting (being in Mississippi), particuarly since Lott voted against it:

(Sec. 6033) Directs the Secretary of the Interior to allow the State of Mississippi to take certain actions with respect to the exploration, development, and production of oil drilling on sites outside the boundaries of Gulf Islands National Seashore which result in the drill hole crossing into land under the Seashore.

Haley Barbour has really been pushing for this.


So not only were they voting against the armor, they were voting against death benefits increase, and tsunami and Sudan relief.

[TacticalPeek]

34. To be fair, Lott voted for it.

Cochran voted against it.

Hey, maybe he voted for it before he voted against it? :evilgrin:

[Wizard777]

24. My Senators voted my will.

I have been served well by my represenatives Mikulski and Sarbanes. But those of you who have not been served well by your representives need to contact them to express your displeasure.

[Catamount]

25. Did the troops get their armor?

[LdyGuique]

26. Well, I see both of my Senators voted against armored Hummvees

Lisa Murkowski and Ted Stevens

Note: To top it off, Ted Stevens is "king of the pork" -- he's hardly an anti-spending tough fiscal restraint supporter -- he's never seen a dollar that couldn't be spent.

[ieoeja]

27. Forward this Email to Everyone you Know

Subject: Senators Vote Against Supporting the Troops

April 21st, 2005 the United States Senate voted 61-39 to spend $213 million dollars on armor for the military vehicles being used by US troops in Iraq. Following are the names of the 39 traitors who voted against this measure.

Republicans:

Allard (R-CO)
Bennett (R-UT)
Bond (R-MO)
Brownback (R-KS)
Bunning (R-KY)
Burr (R-NC)
Chambliss (R-GA)
Coburn (R-OK)
Cochran (R-MS)
Cornyn (R-TX)
Craig (R-ID)
Crapo (R-ID)
DeMint (R-SC)
Dole (R-NC)
Domenici (R-NM)
Ensign (R-NV)
Enzi (R-WY)
Frist (R-TN)
Graham (R-SC)
Grassley (R-IA)
Gregg (R-NH)
Hagel (R-NE)
Hatch (R-UT)
Inhofe (R-OK)
Isakson (R-GA)
Kyl (R-AZ)
McConnell (R-KY)
Murkowski (R-AK)
Roberts (R-KS)
Sessions (R-AL)
Shelby (R-AL)
Smith (R-OR)
Stevens (R-AK)
Sununu (R-NH)
Thomas (R-WY)
Vitter (R-LA)
Voinovich (R-OH)
Warner (R-VA)

Democrats:

Inouye (D-HI)


Forward this message to everyone you know. Let them know these traitors in the Senate are betraying our country. Source: http://www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/roll_call_lists/roll_call_vote_cfm.cfm?congress=109&session=1&vote=00108

Thomas Jefferson: "millions for defense, not a penny for tribute".
Conservatives: "millions for the defense industry, not a penny for our troops".

[Nothing Without Hope]

32. Yes, that's the question: why did they vote nay? Was there something else

in the bill that they were refusing to support? These bills rarely are for one thing only. Was it really $213 million ONLY for more Humvee armor? That's a LOT of money.

I would like to know more about this. OF COURSE more armor should have been in place long ago. But I want to know WHY these people voted as they did. They would know this was an unpopular vote, so it's puzzling that they would do this.

[NuttyFluffers]

35. good point, the WHY is curious.

but then, i'm not gonna look a gift horse in the mouth. just start getting some photos of humvees blown to bits with blood and gore all over, place a picture of an injured/amputee US soldier, and then place a picture of one of the 38 GOP members all shadowed and criminal-like (a la Time magazine pic of OJ Simpson) and caption it "Any Questions?" mass mail in the appropriate zones and voila' the power of truth and exposure.

[OneTwentyoNine]

40. Hell,read all the amendments,there are over 100 of them....

Those bills are ridiculous because they get so far removed from what the orignial bill was for. I'll never forget when Bob Dole tacked on a raise for Congress to a bill voting for black lung benifits for coal miners.

Gee...whata you know it passed and Congress got its raise. Its total BS what these bills start out as and then become.

[conservdem]

45. Wise thinking. I am surprised more here did not think of this sooner.

[NVMojo]

36. Oh! So this is what they mean by being the "culture of life" crew!!

Now I get it!! They only fight to keep "brain dead" people alive! Shame on me for thinking fully alert Americans are important too.

[Vinca]

37. My senators voted against. I should say my STATE's senators -

they sure as hell don't represent me. Gregg and Sununu. What a waste of good oxygen.

[OneTwentyoNine]

39. HAR! Look at the amendment sponsored by Sen Byrd....

No wonder those fucks voted NO,they love those prepackaged BS Lynch/SH stories.

121. S.AMDT.430 to H.R.1268 To prohibit the use of funds by any Federal agency to produce a prepackaged news story without including in such story a clear notification for the audience that the story was prepared or funded by a Federal agency.
Sponsor: Sen Byrd, Robert C. (introduced 4/14/2005) Cosponsors (7)
Latest Major Action: 4/14/2005 Senate amendment agreed to. Status: Amendment SA 430 as modified agreed to in Senate by Yea-Nay Vote. 98 - 0. Record Vote Number: 95.

[Nothing Without Hope]

43. Oh that is PRICELESS!!!! I think we have a clue here... n/t

[femme.democratique]

41. Because we need to armor all the Humvees here in the US!

Why waste it on SOLDIERS when you could be using it for all the fascist Repuke fatcats?

:sarcasm:

[splat@14]

42. Texas senators split, cancel each other out.

Hutchinson - Y
Cornyn - N

Neither have ever seen combat.

[Jesus Saves]

44. Which ones are up for reelection in '06? - nt