Is John McCain running for President in 2008 (yes or no)?

[expatriot]

Is John McCain running for President in 2008 (yes or no)?

[cobaindrain]

1. no, too old, it will be cheney

Cheney will win the nomination and gladly run. I don't know why everybody buys that he has no presidential ambitions. This guy chose HIMSELF as VP, and will be 67 in 2008, still a reasonable age to be president and 5 years younger than mccain. Don't underestimate his ambitions, this man wants the presidency.

[Telly Savalas]

16. For Cheney, it's not so much age as it is health

His ticker isn't in as good a condition as McCain's, yeah?

[EVDebs]

2. This quote along with his sorry S&L performance in the late '80s

require the Senator to respectfully withdraw any nomination for President as based upon pure gall

"When asked this week on CNN how long the U.S. military is likely to remain in Iraq, Senator John McCain replied "probably" 10 or 20 years. "That's not so bad," he said, adding, "We've been in Korea for 50 years. We've been in West Germany for 50 years.""

http://spectrumz.com/z/fair_use/2004/09_04.html

Ten or 20 years ?....where's the men with the butterfly nets ?

[Redneck Socialist]

9. Do you think we will be there less than that?

Ten or twenty years seems to be a rather conservative guess to me. We'll be there until the oil runs out.

[EVDebs]

25. Or the casualty rate

At 15 years more to hit 20 years, that's 180 months with 2 casualties per day so 60 per month X 180 = 10,800 KIA, not counting wounded.

The pentagon must think that's acceptable too.

[acmejack]

3. I received(!) a mailing from him yesterday.

Had a push poll suggesting we needed to spend more on the military and less on you guessed it, social programs. It was in association with some group I had never heard of. Of course they also wanted money...

[catmother]

10. mailing

i received one too. i didn't even open it. saw his name on the return address and into the trash it went.

[...of J.Temperance]

4. McCain will be too old in 2008, so will Cheney, the Pukes will nominate

George "Howdy Doody" Allen, who's another moran with a FAKE Southern accent. Allen's another carpetbagger, considering he's actually from California, just like Junior's actually from Connecticut.

McCain will be 72 and is already in bad health, Cheney will be 67 and is already in bad health.

Personally I think Junior will declare Martial Law and declare himself *resident For Life. He's desperately trying to find a way to use troops in ANY domestic situation, and he'll do it on the back of another big hurricane in a state with a GOP Governor ala Florida, Alabama, South Carolina or Mississippi OR he'll do it when Bird Flu hits America, whichever, the bastard WILL do it.

Six months after he declares Martial Law, somebody will 'um, sort him out, that's my prediction, people never wanted him in the first place and people certainly will not tolerate him past 2008.

[cwydro]

5. can i say

that I fervently hope so? no, he is not perfect...but what President is? I think he would be awesome.

[...of J.Temperance]

7. McCain would be awesome? He's NOT even playing with a full deck

He's a crazy as Junior, he just is able to control his psycho tendencies in public better than Junior does.

I trust NO Republicans, and especially I don't trust McCain who has spent the past five years sucking Junior's dick and bending over for him so Junior can fuck him in the ass. After what Junior DID to McCain in South Carolina...I'd have skinned him alive, yet McCain can't put his kneepads on fast enough.

McCain = no integrity, no class, no truth, no nothing. How can anyone trust a man who obviously has such little respect for himself?

I want NO Republican in the WH OR ANYWHERE near the reigns of power for a VERY long time.

I want a Democratic President...PERIOD.

[expatriot]

14. are you fucking kidding?

he is even more anti-union than bush, he is anti-minimum wage, anti-public schools, anti-public sector, very very anti-fair trade.... he is even more dangerous than bush because he tries to appeal to the middle with his "maverick imatge."

[Robeson]

15. Are you talking about this guy?.....

...


and this guy...


You are kidding....:shrug:

[cwydro]

19. lol

point taken!

[autorank]

6. Seems like it and he is piling up a nice record.

He continues to support Bush.

He went to Ohio and endorsed the odious Blackwell.

He went to California and endorsed the odious Schwarz..

Who next, David Duke in Louisiana?

He's not at all innovative. Run to the right in the primaries, run to the center in the general. Well the right is stinking up the place and everybody knows that.

The Bush hug photo will be all it takes.

[...of J.Temperance]

8. Bravo mon amie!

Well stated and it's ALL 100% true.

[Sarah Ibarruri]

11. Yep, that's why McCain is acting like he's got a crush on Bush

Yes, McCain will run. That's why despite being humiliated and kicked repeatedly in the butt by Bush's administration, he's never stopped ass-kissing them deeply. He needs GOP money to run.

I don't think Cheney will run. He might want to, but he would require several heart transplants during the campaign, and have to travel with his own crash cart, surgeons, nurses, hospital orderlies and an OR tent that opens automatically like an umbrella.

[babsbunny]

12. McCain will be busy

backing this piece of shit Blackwell in Columbus! Thus he will soon be burning in hell!

[prescole]

13. McCain is openly running

while Lynn Cheney insists Dick won't run.
For what it's worth...

[corbett]

17. Whatever You're Smokin', I'll Have Some

I can't believe there's any doubt! We know that he's running for 3 reasons:

1) He knows that he can win the Republican primary if KKKarl isn't running the opposition;

2) He made a deal with the devil in 2004: endording * in exchange for a * endorsement of him in 2008; and

3) He gave up the opportunity to be Kerry's runningmate so that he could have his own shot at the top spot on the ticket in 2008.

[expatriot]

18. I voted Yes. I started this poll to see how many DUers

_didn't_ think he was running.

[Czolgosz]

20. |Yes, but he'll lose (insufficiently far-right wing crazy to win the nom)

[expatriot]

21. I think the leaders of the various RW groups are politically savvy enough

to realize that if the national standing of the Bush-led GOP is in shambles in 2008, McCain will be their only chance to "resell" the GOP to the American center. McCain may have a reputation for a "maverick" but his voting record shows he is very, very conservative on most issues.

[Czolgosz]

22. Here's why I DON'T think the RW leaders are savvy enough as you are.

You realize that McCain is their best politician (in terms of electability), but from the RW perspective he's shown an independence from the party line that has burned bridges with the RW faithful who drive the primary process (he's the Reptilican Party's Joe Lieberman -- a centrist who looks good on paper and who polls well among independents and the moderates of the opposing party and even some moderates within his own party but who is not adored by the activists who work for, contribute financially to, and loyally vote in the early primaries).

Also, I don't think the RW is monolithic enough to have the sort of "we'll back our most electable candidate" savvy. Instead, I think the driving force behind the BushInc Whore House is the Neo-Cons (those Crypto-Socialists who supposedly fear the integration of state with industry when state nationalizes industry but they yearn for the integration of state with industry when the state becomes a wholly owned puppet of industry). But the Reptilican party also includes a plurality of church-going, UN-hating, xenophobic, homophobic, judgmental, militaristic, ethnocentric psycho-social conservatives. Bush pays verbal homage to these folks, and he tosses them token bones, but he never delivers the real goods for them -- or at least as they expect him to -- because the Neo-Cons are his true masters.

John McCain has NOT carried water for the Neo-Cons with any consistency. That spoils his candidacy the way it would spoil a Democratic candidate who was generally well liked in name-recognition and favorability-rating polls, but who was distrusted and disliked by Labor, NOW, and the Sierra Club. John McCain will not be on the Crypto-Socialists' short list of dream candidates.

Likewise, John McCain has not been a loyal supporter of the psycho-social conservatives. He's advocated against prosecuting women who get abortions, he said that he'd call a "family conference" if his daughter wanted an abortion (this is not a debatable issue among the social conservatives), he favor abortion rights in cases of rape (without requiring any proof of the alleged rape), he's said he would not repeal Roe v. Wade, he favors a "mother's health" exception to the misnamed "partial-birth abortions," and he favors expanded embryonic stem cell research. You hear this and say, "those views are a hell of a lot more enlightened that BushInc's," but the psycho-social conservatives hear that and say "he's Satan!" So John McCain will not be on the psycho-social conservatives' short list of dream candidates.

So McCain is not the favored son of either Reptilican base voter group. If you think there are enough moderates who work in, vote in, and contribute to Reptilican primary campaigns to overcome this handicap, you have a more favorable view of the primary process than I do.

[MurrayDelph]

23. Actually,

I think he is running for President in 2006.

He waffles between attack dog and ass-sniffer so much because he
realizes that an impeachment is probable, and he wants to be the
next Gerald Ford.

[welshTerrier2]

24. is this script possible?

Iraq-gate and Plame-gate explode ...

they decide to take down Cheney before they go after bush ... they can't let Cheney become president if bush is ousted first ... so bush is impeached and removed from office ...

bush gets to appoint a VP (is this correct?) but he's so weak that the republican party tells him whom to choose ... there are two considerations made; one political and the other in the national interest ...

politically, they want someone who represents "the other wing" of the party ... no more hardcore neo-cons ... and nationally, they need someone with a high degree of public trust and a reputation as a "tough guy" with a military background ...

and the new VP becomes John McCain ...

as an aside, if this madness all occurred, what would happen to McCain's Senate seat ... run-off election? appointed by Arizona Governor?