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KalicoKitty (777 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-22-05 03:56 PM Original message |
Bush's Ace in the Hole-- The Pardon Power |
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MADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-22-05 03:59 PM Response to Original message |
1. Count on it |
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Fridays Child (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-22-05 03:59 PM Response to Original message |
2. I've never understood how someone who hasn't been convicted... |
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flyingfysh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-22-05 04:07 PM Response to Reply #2 |
4. Ford did it |
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unblock (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-22-05 04:11 PM Response to Reply #2 |
6. ford pardoned nixon, who had yet to be charged |
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Fridays Child (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-22-05 04:51 PM Response to Reply #6 |
14. Then, Poppy used it unethically, if not illegally. |
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unblock (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-22-05 05:12 PM Response to Reply #14 |
18. unethically? absolutely. illegally? nope. |
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Brundle_Fly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-22-05 11:21 PM Response to Reply #18 |
32. but didnt |
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bowens43 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-24-05 07:15 AM Response to Reply #32 |
34. Yes, he can. |
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Eric J in MN (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-22-05 07:11 PM Response to Reply #6 |
24. I would support a Constitutional amendment |
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laugle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-22-05 07:40 PM Response to Reply #6 |
27. Yea, Ford pardoned Nixon and then lost the election, |
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TheCowsCameHome (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-22-05 04:01 PM Response to Original message |
3. Would that be a wise thing to do, given the 2006 elections looming? |
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longship (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-22-05 04:08 PM Response to Original message |
5. Congress Ace in the Hole -- Impeachment and Removal from Office |
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halobeam (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-22-05 04:13 PM Response to Reply #5 |
7. To take it further..... |
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unblock (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-22-05 04:32 PM Response to Reply #7 |
11. pardons cannot be "overturned" |
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halobeam (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-22-05 07:12 PM Response to Reply #11 |
25. Thanks for straightening that out for me.... |
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bornskeptic (951 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-24-05 07:46 AM Response to Reply #11 |
35. Not quite correct. |
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laugle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-22-05 11:19 PM Response to Reply #7 |
31. Good post...but please take time |
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halobeam (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-24-05 07:01 AM Response to Reply #31 |
33. Yeah, I copied and pasted the body... |
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onenote (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-22-05 04:15 PM Response to Reply #5 |
8. thank you, longship |
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longship (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-22-05 04:24 PM Response to Reply #8 |
10. U R Welcome |
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unblock (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-22-05 04:43 PM Response to Reply #10 |
13. i think the pardon power is HIGHLY relevant in this case |
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longship (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-22-05 04:55 PM Response to Reply #13 |
15. One hopes that your scenerio doesn't fly |
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unblock (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-22-05 05:08 PM Response to Reply #15 |
17. unfortunately i very much do NOT like the idea of limiting pardons |
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longship (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-22-05 05:25 PM Response to Reply #15 |
20. Agreed. |
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unblock (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-22-05 05:47 PM Response to Reply #20 |
21. "pardon justification spin" will NOT mention "pardon" anytime soon |
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longship (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-22-05 07:09 PM Response to Reply #21 |
23. I understood that clearly. |
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unblock (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-22-05 09:45 PM Response to Reply #23 |
28. yeah, uh -- where have i heard THAT before? |
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Blue Topaz (139 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-22-05 04:57 PM Response to Reply #13 |
16. Considering that Fitzgerald was picked to head this investigation |
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KalicoKitty (777 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-22-05 04:18 PM Response to Reply #5 |
9. Thanks, longship, for the info! |
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longship (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-22-05 04:34 PM Response to Reply #9 |
12. I would not want it to happen that way. |
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Shipwack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-22-05 05:19 PM Response to Original message |
19. My own theory/ nightmare is... |
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unblock (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-22-05 06:46 PM Response to Reply #19 |
22. i've been worried about "peaking too soon". |
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laugle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-22-05 07:37 PM Response to Original message |
26. Talk radio is buzzing about Cheney resigning and Condi |
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unblock (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-22-05 09:50 PM Response to Reply #26 |
29. if cheney's indicted, i do think resignation is a distinct possibility |
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laugle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-22-05 11:13 PM Response to Reply #29 |
30. Yea, Cheney already accomplished what he |
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