Democrats Will Rue the Day Miers Was Withdrawn

[tritsofme]

With it being increasingly likely that Bush will nominate either Michael Luttig or Samuel Alito to fill vacancy to be left by Sandra Day O'Connor, will Democrats regret that Miers was withdrawn?

There is a 100% chance that Luttig or Alito will be Scalia clones and continually vote for less freedom in things like overturning Roe v Wade.

We don't know what Miers would have done, but past speeches and other remarks indicated she might be more open to the concept of medical privacy.

While many here initially rejoiced Miers withdrawl, I think we will spend the next 30 years regretting it.

Just something to think about when Bush announces his Scalia wannabe this morning.

[AtomicKitten]

1. Dems will rue the day?

What the hell are you talking about? They had nothing to do with her withdrawal.

[meow2u3]

2. Repukes need a scapegoat

And Dems are the most convenient one.

[AtomicKitten]

3. Yabbut

it isn't going to work in this particular instance. The religious wrong were all over Miers like stink on a monkey.

I'm hoping if he chooses a real intellectual, despite their religious proclivities, they may see reason in their decisions. A less cerebrally endowed vigilante will tow the line.

[jackbourassa]

29. But we could have shown more support

We let her twist in the wind. If we had supported her, her overall approval numbers would have been higher. We took a "wait and see" approach. Basically let the pigs define the whole situation. Now she's gone. Now we get another Scalia.

I mean wasn't it Shumer who went on Meet the Press and said that she didn't have the votes for confirmation? That didn't help. Democrats helped to pile on Miers, and now the religious right will get a nominee that they want and those same Democratic Senators will be afraid to stand up. Some will probably vote for him.

Great huh?

[zanne]

31. Let's blame Bill Clinton! nt

[AtomicKitten]

40. Dems weren't piling on Miers.

You'll see what "piling on" looks like when they go to town on Alioto.

[jackbourassa]

42. I'll believe it when I see it...

Democrats haven't "gone to town" in a while.

[AtomicKitten]

43. Prepare for the fillibuster.

They WILL use it, however, rumor has it the Dems are trying to move the nomination hearings to 2006.

Don't be so down on the Dems. They had a brilliant day today.

[funflower]

4. Honestly, if we had been supportive, * might not have caved to the base.

[AtomicKitten]

6. Reid being supportive was a red flag to them.

The rest of the Dems were smart to keep a low profile and let them feed on their own.

[funflower]

35. This is true.

[tritsofme]

5. I'm aware of that

I'm just saying a lot of people seemed very happy that Miers withdrew.

I think that the Democrats strategy of watching the GOP "crack up" over the Miers nomination was wrong. Bush will come out of this in a relatively stronger position.

[AtomicKitten]

7. I don't agree.

It is never a good idea standing in the way of your opponent committing suicide. It's a gift.

What this proved was Bush kowtowing to the extremists on the right and will remind people, and keep in mind some 68% of Americans are pro-choice, that Bush was bullied into keeping his promise to overturn Roe v. Wade. They WANT a show-down with liberals on this issue, no, they demand it.

So it's filibuster vs. nuclear option.

The Dems had very little or nothing to do with this.

[bowens43]

11. Your kidding right?

You think that harming bush is more important then who sits on the supreme court??????

[MojoXN]

8. "There is a 100% chance ..."

Unless the event has already happened, there isn't a 100% chance of ANYTHING.

Miers was a Bush crony. Cronyism and Nepotism almost always end up poorly. Even if * nominates another Roberts, at least he or she will be a known quantity. Look on the bright side... ay least Shrubya can't re-nominate Miers!

MojoXN

[bowens43]

13. Huh?

How is a known right wing extremist better then an unknown possible moderate?

[bluestateguy]

9. There was nothing to celebrate when she "withdrew"

I didn't celebrate at all. If she was withdrawn, Bush would appoint another one. If she was defeated, Bush would have appointed another one. If her replacement was defeated, Bush will appoint the replacement for the replacement.

These elections have consequences. It's time American learn that lesson.

[Bernardo de La Paz]

10. Incompetent conservatives are worse than competent conservatives.

Miers was a joke and deserved to be laughed out of contention. Good riddance.

If Bush nominates a hard conservative he will have a big fight on his hands. That is, anyone more conservative than O'Connors.

This is where we draw the line.

[bowens43]

12. A incompetent possible moderate is MUCH better

then a competent known right wing extremeist.

[FourStarDemocrat]

22. Not true-- a bush crony like Miers would rule for the exec branch every

time a case that involved them came up, or she would have to recuse herself dozens of times because she was involved in formulating the policy now challenged in the cases before them. She would be useless, except as a bush tool--which is extremely dangerous to have on the court and the reason why bush picked her in the first place.

[BlueManDude]

19. "This is where we draw the line." - who draws the line?

The Dems will put up little or no fight on this nomination - watch.

[tritsofme]

20. I can see a filibuster coming if Bush nominates Luttig or Alito

We would probably lose nuclear showdown through no fault of Democratic Senate leadership however.

[bowens43]

14. You're right of course.

It amazed me to see so many people here wanting Miers gone even though she had supported Democrats and pro-choice candidates. There was never any doubt that the next nominee would be an extremist and there is no doubt that the next nominee will be confirmed.

[Thom Little]

15. Pubs will rue the day they nominated someone who shut down Congress

[B Calm]

16. Miers was a corporate trial attorney, need I say more?

[kick_them_hard]

17. Whoever it is, I hope Harry Reid walks out with him/her

for shock value :think: The far right will have a shitfit again

[Tactical Progressive]

18. Yup

I believed Miers would have been a moderate to left-shifting member of the court. We would have known more if she had been allowed to present herself to the judiciary committee.

It was a bad thing that the hard right rode her down.

Now we're going to get some seriously intellectually-dishonest ideological nutcase rightie. He'll get in too, without much fuss.

Democrats deserve it for not protecting Miers.

[Skittles]

21. no

Ms. Miers simply was not qualified; cannot be mitigated by the fact Bush will appoint a rightwing nutjob, they are all going to be rightwing nutjobs

[area51]

23. "Democrats Will Rue the Day Miers Was Withdrawn"

I think this was a Rusty Limpdick talking point.

[tritsofme]

24. Are you happier with Scalito on the Court for 30 years?

I know I'd rather have someone that could have turned out to be more moderate than the firebreather Scalito.

[crispini]

25. Oh, please.

Miers was taken down by her own party, plain and simple. The Dems on the hill had nothing to do with it, and I didn't see a lot of "rejoicing" going on here, either.

[salin]

26. We were messed up either way.

Superficial, nonthinking sycophant weighing her rulings based on what W would want and trying to do her part to help with his "legacy" vs. wolf without the sheeps clothing. Either way both would probably end up voting with Scalia all of the time.

It was about the elections going all the way back to the bloodless coup.

[seabeyond]

27. this is what happens when pres is selected and has scj seats

to fill. this is why we fought so hard in 2004. we didnt want bush to be the one to fill the seats. he is pres, he gets to fill the seats. this crap of a man is who we get. and we all as a nation get fucked. and if it isnt this man, or miers, is will be another one.

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

28. Yeah. We could've had Strychnine. Now we get Arsenic.

How about we don't take either dose?

[deadparrot]

30. You assume that the Democrats are just going to roll over.

While they might in many cases, I'm not sure this is one of them.

Plus, consider the five pro-choice Republicans in the Senate.

[mondo joe]

32. I respectfully disagree. I'd rather know who the enemy is, and I'd rather

they know the law. No question.

Wanting Miers based on the idea that she might not hit us so hard is more political-battered-wife-syndrome.

[The Backlash Cometh]

33. Liberals weren't the ones that wanted her to withdraw.

They weren't rueing, they were rooting.

[KoKo]

34. Democrats didn't do a thing to oppose Miers.

It was a total Repug Opposition and it wasn't the Fundie Extremists who brought her down, the most vocal were the NeoCon's like Frum, Krystol and the rest who fired the first shots across her bow.

She wasn't intellectual enough for those that rule the Repug Party. The Right Wing Christians don't have the power they think they do when the NeoCons decide they aren't useful. I think Miers nomination being withdrawn will hurt Repugs more than Dems...and hurt them badly. Not nominating another Woman will also erode their female base.

[wrathofkahn]

37. Lots of folks here were hell-bent upon keeping her off the bench

Including Skinner himself. It may or may not have been DU's actions that caused (or added to) her withdrawal, but there were plenty here who were all sorts of bent out of shape about her here.

[KoKo]

38. That's just us. We didn't have the Power of Democratic Congress that

would have made the difference. Our job was to keep pressure on the "masses" of Dems who aren't being represented. We ARE the Democratic Underground. Not "establishment."

So while you heard alot of criticism on the Liberal Blogs it wasn't coming from the folks the M$M quotes.

[wrathofkahn]

39. Fair enough.

[mattclearing]

36. Rue the day that an unqualified Christian Fundamentalist was withdrawn?

You can't be serious.

[Uzybone]

41. The spirit of capitulation

is all over the OP.

How can we rue the day a total incompetent fundie crony of Bush was not put on the SC? We yell about how important the SC is and yet you want a total fool placed on there just because she is not Scalito or Luttig? Even if Miers had the politics of Stevens I would not want her on the court.