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BringBigDogBack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-03-08 11:21 PM
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My heart breaks for Biden supporters...
Edited on Thu Jan-03-08 11:22 PM by BringBigDogBack
It is a great shame he did not receive more attention than he did. He had so much to offer our country as a candidate.

Best wishes to a great group of supporters, and an outstanding candidate. This race will not be the same without Joe Biden.

I already miss him.
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-03-08 11:22 PM
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1. I was also surprised.....
I had predicted him to take 16% in Iowa.
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Eurobabe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-03-08 11:24 PM
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3. Well, the people caucused, and the results are in
I am a little surprised that he didn't do better than 1%. But hey, that's the Iowa system.

Congrats to Obama. :hi:
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Renew Deal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-03-08 11:31 PM
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15. I thought he'd be in the singe digits
but not behind Richardson.
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frogcycle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-04-08 12:33 PM
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41. the way the system works
he could hypothetically have had 14%-plus in the first round but those votes are not recorded and never reported. That's why the final tally is so stratified. The ones who started out "viable" bled off most of the support of the rest in the second round.

Biden was lots of people's second choice, but they were viable, so it didn't matter. Richardson was a lot of Biden and Dodd supporters' second choice.


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mediaman007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-03-08 11:23 PM
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2. Do you think that there were a lot of them?
Just askin'
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Eurobabe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-03-08 11:25 PM
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8. Yeah, we had a group here...
be nice.
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stlsaxman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-03-08 11:36 PM
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24. yes, we are still here, too. we will ALWAYS be here!
thank you very much!
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rucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-03-08 11:24 PM
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4. Thanks.
I was prepared for this outcome, but hoping for a surprise.
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leftynyc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-04-08 01:36 PM
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48. Me too
Might I ask who you're looking at now? I'm still deciding.
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CyberPieHole Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-03-08 11:24 PM
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5. Very sad turn of events...Biden is a brilliant man...
I'm sorry his campaign failed to resonate.
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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-03-08 11:24 PM
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6. Thank you for your kind sentiments. I already miss him, too. nt
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BringBigDogBack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-03-08 11:26 PM
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10. You're welcome.
He needs to be a part of the next administration in some way, shape, or form.

We can't afford to not fully utilize what he has to offer
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leftynyc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-04-08 01:37 PM
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49. Secretary of State Biden
Edited on Fri Jan-04-08 01:37 PM by leftynyc
has a nice ring, don't you think? Even Homeland Security. Or Attorney General.
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BringBigDogBack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-04-08 02:58 PM
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50. indeed
it does
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BringBigDogBack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-03-08 11:25 PM
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7. I too thought he would be in the teens
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alteredstate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-03-08 11:25 PM
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9. He's a great man.
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bdamomma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-03-08 11:27 PM
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11. Oh geez, I feel so bad, but he will be always be behind the scenes
or again fighting on the floor of the Senate, he is a valuable man just like Dodd and Richardson.

I will miss him on the campaign trail too.:cry:
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Sparkly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-03-08 11:28 PM
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12. A great guy, and I hope we'll be continuing to hear from him.
I really thought he'd do better in Iowa. :(
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tammywammy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-03-08 11:30 PM
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13. Agreed, it's sad to see Biden out
I really like and respect him.

My hat's off to the great Biden supporters!
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Zookeeper Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-03-08 11:30 PM
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14. Thank you.
The MSM told us who the three front runners would be, ignored everyone else, and, gee whiz, guess who the three winners were. I feel like there is no chance for a candidate that doesn't serve the media's need for advertising dollars and drama.

But, thank you for your kind words!

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BringBigDogBack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-03-08 11:33 PM
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18. Very welcome, Zoo
Edited on Thu Jan-03-08 11:34 PM by BringBigDogBack
I completely understand your frustration. I would like to see all candidates receive as fair media coverage as possible.

These all are OUR candidates, after all. They all represent us.
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juajen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-03-08 11:45 PM
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32. I agree with you. Neither Biden, Richardson, Dodd or Kucinich
were given enough press. It isn't fair and I agree that the media has a lot to do with how the wind blows. Even though my candidate got a lot of attention, I was incensed over the lack of coverage for our wonderful democratic candidates. I love them all, even Gravel. What a character. They all made our dem debates worth watching. Wonderful guys.
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Laurab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-03-08 11:31 PM
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16. He gave such an uplifting speech just now
I have a feeling there will be a place for him in the next administration - if the winner is smart, anyway.
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Eurobabe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-03-08 11:43 PM
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29. Fucking cable MSRNC cut it off
didn't hear but two sentences.
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Laurab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-03-08 11:45 PM
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30. I saw it online on CNN - they might replay it. n/t
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mzmolly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-03-08 11:31 PM
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17. Agreed.
Blessings to Mr. Biden and his supporters.
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Lifelong Protester Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-03-08 11:33 PM
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19. I think he is the straightest shooter out there...
the man has a way of cutting through the crap, whether it is welcomed or not, he is not a BSer. I like Biden, and I agree with the sentiments here, he will be invaluable to the next administration. I feel the same about Dodd, both good men with a LOT to offer our country.
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youthere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-03-08 11:35 PM
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20. Thank you alll for the kind words...and your "gentleness" tonight.
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frogmarch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-03-08 11:35 PM
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21. I love Joe Biden. If Edwards hadn't been in the race, Biden
would have been my #1 choice instead of #2.
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BringBigDogBack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-03-08 11:39 PM
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25. He was my #2 as well
I think Joe was in fact, alot of peoples second choice.

I went back and forth with him and Obama, much as you with Edwards and Biden. I would love for all three of those guys to be in one administration, no matter who is at the top of the ticket.
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nyc 4 Biden Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-03-08 11:41 PM
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26. thanks you all.
This is a sad time for us bidenites.
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AtomicKitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-03-08 11:36 PM
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22. Best regards.
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AspenRose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-03-08 11:36 PM
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23. *sigh*
I was a Gore supporter.

Then a Biden supporter.

Guess it's time to go to bed now. I don't care about NH right now :-(
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Frustratedlady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-03-08 11:41 PM
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27. I hear ya...
I was a Gore supporter, a Kerry supporter...definitely a Biden supporter and present when it all went down.

I feel like I've just been to a funeral. Damn!
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SharonRB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-04-08 01:08 PM
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47. I'll always be a Gore supporter
but I had finally settled on Biden as my #2 guy. Somehow I knew this would happen, but I had been hoping for a shocking result. My dream is still for Hillary, Obama and Edwards to be deadlocked going into Denver and for Al to come in on his white horse, but I'm being realistic and going with Edwards down the stretch.
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stlsaxman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-03-08 11:42 PM
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28. Thanks BringBigDogBack...
everyone, to a person, i told about Biden agreed- he's the best suited for the job.

i am devastated and it helps immensely to read kind words such as yours.

Thank you!
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BringBigDogBack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-03-08 11:45 PM
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31. very welcome to all of you ladies and gents.
Edited on Thu Jan-03-08 11:46 PM by BringBigDogBack
It's put a damper on my night as well
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Muddy Waters Guitar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-03-08 11:45 PM
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33. Biden had been one of my faves, until that bankruptcy bill he supported
That bill was an atrocity-- it makes it doubly difficult for beleaguered Americans, seeking Chapter 11 protection due to medical bills (since we don't have basic health insurance) or injuries, to protect themselves and their finances. And it gives carte blanche to banks to charge usurious interest rates to consumers, and for corporations that f*@! up to declare bankruptcy and screw over consumers. Biden even blocked an amendment that would have given assistance to Americans with medical problems to get protection-- Hillary to her credit, despite her arrogance on this issue on other fronts, did support that amendment.

It's a shame, b/c Biden in other ways is among our most appealing candidates. He has experience, and on foreign policy he's unmatched. But he lost my vote and I'm sure that of millions of other Democrats with that arrogant, corporate a**-kissing bankruptcy bill. You reap what you sow, and with the bankruptcy bill, Biden reaped the whirlwind. It's similar to the way Hillary's support of the H1B visa is hitting her very hard-- when you support big, powerful corporations against Americans on the ground who already have it tough, the country rejects you, and that's happened to Biden, otherwise a very smart candidate.
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frogcycle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-03-08 11:51 PM
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36. pardon me for being rude
Edited on Thu Jan-03-08 11:52 PM by frogcycle
but this is not the time for your fucking rant
stick it where the sun don't shine

oh, and by the way, you don't know what you are talking about
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youthere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-04-08 12:30 PM
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40. Are you ALWAYS this tactless?
Thanks for coming to the wake and shitting on the carpet.
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Adelante Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-04-08 12:35 PM
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43. Great timing
:wtf:
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murbley40 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-04-08 12:59 PM
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44. Gee,now that is what I won't miss.
Thanks for your good wishes.
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Stephanie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-03-08 11:46 PM
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34. Maybe he'll be Obama or Edwards' VP?
I wouldn't mind that at all.
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BringBigDogBack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-03-08 11:48 PM
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35. Either would be very strong
and would appeal nationally
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saracat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-04-08 01:40 AM
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37. I wish he had gotten more attention Biden was a great candidate!
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Withywindle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-04-08 01:42 AM
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38. Yup, thanks for saying this.
Never a big supporter, but I admire his intelligence and experience and guts a lot. Nothing but respect to him and his supporters now. :toast:
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calteacherguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-04-08 01:45 AM
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39. He deserved better, he really did.
I'd be delighted to see him as VP although I know he's said he's not interested in that.
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youthere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-04-08 12:34 PM
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42. Thank you BringBigDogBack...
It is a shame, but I can take some amount of comfort knowing that he is still in the Senate working for us all and fighting the good fight. I'm considering a move to Delaware so he can be my senator, but I'd have to give up Tom Harkin.
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murbley40 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-04-08 01:02 PM
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46. Anytime you are ready Delaware would welcome you.
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SharonRB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-04-08 01:01 PM
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45. I was new to the Biden camp
Once I realized Big Al just wasn't going to run, I went to Dodd and then to Biden, although I would have been happy with either of them. I'm sorry they're both out of it, but I know they'll still play an important role in the future of the country.

Now I'm firmly in the Edwards camp.
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