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2rth2pwr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-05-08 10:49 PM
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So Edwards' only accomplishment in the 6 years he spent
in the Senate was the Health Care Bill of Rights that passed the Senate but died in the House?

Whoo-Hoo!
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Sarah Ibarruri Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-05-08 10:51 PM
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1. Ok, so, as we were saying.... which candidate do you like best? nt
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2rth2pwr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-05-08 10:53 PM
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2. I wonder why he didn't bring up the legislation that he co-sponsered
and helped pass, like the Bankruptcy bill.?
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Sarah Ibarruri Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-05-08 10:54 PM
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3. And your favorite candidate is... Hillary Clinton? :-) nt
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bullwinkle428 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-05-08 11:02 PM
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6. NO - he didn't "co-sponser" the Bankruptcy Bill -
Chuck Grassley, the Republican from Iowa was the sponsor of this bill in the Senate!

http://en.wikinews.org/wiki/US_Senate_passes_new_bankruptcy_bill
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2rth2pwr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-05-08 11:27 PM
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10. Oh shit! Sorry, it was the Iraqi War Resolution.
He co-sponsored and helped pass the IWR.

He only voted for the Bankruptcy bill.

Thanks.
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jackson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-05-08 10:55 PM
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4. That isn't what he said
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depakid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-05-08 10:56 PM
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5. Name some comperable thing that Obama has done?
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2rth2pwr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-05-08 11:29 PM
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11. Obama is very good at voting present or missing important votes
Does that count?
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Forkboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-05-08 11:06 PM
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7. Anytime a post on DU starts with,"So..." you can be sure crap is soon to follow.
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EffieBlack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-05-08 11:09 PM
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8. He didn't say that was the only thing - he was asked to name something he did and he named one
He did many other things, many of which happened haven't gotten a lot of press attention. For example, as a member of the Judiciary Committee, he stopped several bad judges from getting hearings or being confirmed. He smacked down the nomination of a terrible judiciary nominee, taking him down in an amazing Perry Mason moment during the confirmation hearings. He also stood up to the Republican majority and single-handedly blocked several anti-civil rights judges from moving through the committee. He doesn't get a lot of credit for that, but he should.
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2rth2pwr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-05-08 11:43 PM
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12. "that would give us some guide as to what kind of president you're going to be?"
MR. SPRADLING: -- and explaining later on why you weren't happy about that. Can you give New Hampshire voters a guide of something significant that you accomplished in your six years as a U.S. senator --

MR. EDWARDS: Absolutely.

MR. SPRADLING: -- that would give us some guide as to what kind of president you're going to be?

MR. EDWARDS: Absolutely. I can tell you exactly one -- I'll give you one very specific example, a big example.

When the Democrats finally took over the United States Senate, the first issue that was brought to the table was the so-called "Patient's Bill of Rights", so that patients and families can make their own health care decisions.
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/01/05/us/politics/05text-ddebate.html?_r=1&pagewanted=all&oref=login
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Pastiche423 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-05-08 11:15 PM
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9. Yep, that's pretty much it
Just check out his voting record.
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PurityOfEssence Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-06-08 04:05 PM
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17. Repost of Edwards' Senate Record notes
Much has been said about Edwards’ supposedly conservative term in the Senate. Like much “common wisdom”, this is largely unfounded.

When remembering that he came as a neophyte from a rather red state, it’s quite surprising to see just how populist he was on many key social issues. (Well, it’s not surprising to many of us, but to those of you who’ve been poisoned with the endless snideness about the “new” Edwards and the “old” Edwards, it should be an eye-opener.)

He only sponsored two bills, but he co-sponsored a whopping 203 in his six-year term. This is a partial list of them (yes, I omitted the Patriot Act and IWR; much has already been said about them) and bears a quick skimming. They’re in chronological order, so details can be found fairly easily. The two bills he sponsored were for research into the “fragile x” chromosome associated with mental retardation, and the “Spyware Control and Privacy Act”, an important early bulwark against attempts to compromise our computer privacy. This last one is a true civil-rights issue, taking on corporations and attempting to secure the rights of individuals, and it’s visionary stuff.

http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bdquery/z?d106:SN03180:@@@L&summ2=m&

Russ Feingold said he was a “terrific asset” in getting campaign finance reform through. He was the person who deposed Lewinsky and Jordan in the impeachment trial; quite an important task to entrust to a newcomer in literally his first year in office. His opposition to Ashcroft in the confirmation hearings was vigorous and mesmerizing, even if it didn’t work. This is also the guy who tirelessly fought to keep the sunset provisions from being stripped out of the Patriot Act. His votes on labor and trade are solidly leftist, although he did vote for the China Trade Bill. Then again, since this was something Bill Clinton was solidly for, he was voting with his party. (Funny how Hillary supporters take him to task for this vote…) He also (along with Dodd and Biden) voted against the free trade bills with Singapore and Chile, unlike Senator Clinton, who voted for them.

Here’s a guy who constantly brought up the issue of “predatory lending” even though he hailed from a state with a huge banking and financial services industry. If you listen to or read his stump speeches from late ’02 and early ’03, you’ll wonder what the hell his detractors are talking about when they say that his populism is a new tack; his platform was economic and worker-oriented from the beginning, telling of how the Bush Administration was systematically shifting the burden of taxation from wealth to wages.

So here’s that partial list of the bills he co-sponsored. This is not a list of his votes, just those bills he actively got behind and worked to get passed. This is hardly the stuff of a closet conservative or an opportunist, as he’s been tarred, nor is it the record of someone who was just phoning it in. I would request, in interest of fairness, that the deriders among you at least skim through this VERY long list; it’s all pure fact.

When taking all this in context, it’s interesting to reflect on Kerry’s sneering that he probably couldn’t win re-election had he decided to run. Kerry may have been right on this point, but if so, it’s because of Edwards’ populism and social decency.

Details can be found here; each phrase separated by a comma is a particular bill, and in most cases attempt to use the bill’s title to lessen confusion and give the sense of the legislation.

http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bdquery/?&Db=d107&querybd=@FIELD(FLD004+@4((@1(Sen+Edwards++John))+01573)):

Sense of the Senate for funding lifestyle research for preventative medicine, Sense of the Senate honoring National Science Foundation, Sense of the Senate to preserve six day mail delivery, designating “biotechnology week”, Children’s Internet Safety Month, Joint Resolution against excessive campaign donations, to protect the civil rights of all Americans, Bi-partisan Campaign Reform, Restrict access to personal health and financial information, Establish a Center for National Social Work Research, provide more effective remedies for victims of sex discrimination in work, provide incentive for fair access to the internet for everyone, require fair availability of birth control, increase the minimum wage (’01), protect consumers in managed care programs, emergency relief for energy costs to small businesses, prohibit use of genetic information to discriminate on health coverage and employment, provide families with disabled children to buy into Medicaid, eliminate the loophole for interstate transporting of birds for fighting, provide funding to clean up contaminated land, informing veterans of available programs, Designating part of ANWR as wilderness, establish a digital network technology program, reduce the risk that innocent people be executed, restore funding for Social Security Block Grants, provide for equal coverage for mental health in insurance policies, amend Clean Air Act to reduce emissions from power plants, establish uniform election technology (sponsored by Dodd), extend modifications to funding for Medicare and Medicaid, Federal Funding to local governments to prosecute hate crimes, reinstate certain Social Security earnings exemptions for the blind, overhaul RR retirement plan to increase benefits, Establish a Nurse recruitment and retention program, amend FDA to provide greater access to affordable pharmaceuticals, Establish African American Museum within the Smithsonian, Federal funding for research of environmental factors in Breast Cancer, Increase hospital benefits under Medicare, Establish Tariff Quotas on milk protein imports, Federal funding for mental health community education, protect patients in managed care plans (again), establish Office on Women’s Health in HHS, increase the minimum wage, allow media coverage of trials, prohibit racial profiling, improve health care in rural areas, protect consumers in managed care plans, prohibiting trade of bear viscera, provide greater fairness in arbitration of motor vehicle franchises, provide adequate insurance coverage for immunosuppressive drugs, provide financial assistance for trade-affected communities, acquisition and improvement of child-care facilities, prohibit employment discrimination based on sexual orientation, establish programs to deal with nurse shortage, establish a National Cyber Defense Team to protect the internet’s infrastructure, provide services to prevent family violence, require criminal prosecution for securities fraud, reissuance of a rule on ergonomics, ensure safe pregnancy for all U.S. women, improve investigation and prosecution of rape cases with DNA evidence, improve national drought preparedness, increase the minimum wage (yet again), assistance in containing HIV/AIDS in foreign countries, emergency assistance for small-businesses affected by drought, child care and developmental block grants, provide economic security for America’s workers, enhance security for transporting nuclear waste, FEMA hazard mitigation grants, increase mental health benefits in health insurance, criminal prosecution for people who destroy evidence in securities fraud cases.

Is this the record of a corporate appeaser? Is this the record of someone just loafing about and collecting a paycheck?

Funny what you find when you read a little, isn’t it?
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jackson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-06-08 04:12 PM
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20. Anyone who knows of his record knows it is a good one
Notice how the "he was a 'centrist'" parrots are ignoring the evidence you presented?
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truedelphi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-06-08 05:07 PM
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22. An impressive list, thanks for posting. n/t
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gmudem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-06-08 05:15 PM
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25. You mean this voting record?
http://www.buzzflash.com/analysis/03/01/14_Edwards.html

Edwards' Voting Record Matches Those Of Senators Ted Kennedy And Hillary Clinton

From 1999-2002, Edwards Voted With Senator Ted Kennedy 90% Of The Time. (CQ Vote Comparison, CQ Online Website, www.oncongresscq.com, 106th and 107th Congresses)

From 2001-2002, Edwards Voted With Senator Hillary Clinton 89% Of The Time. (CQ Vote Comparison, CQ Online Website, www.oncongresscq.com, 107th Congress)

Edwards' Liberal Record On Health Care And Social Issues

Edwards Called For A Federal Prescription-Drug Benefit And Lamented Over The Lack Of Universal Health Insurance For Children. "Moving to health care, Edwards - his words being recorded by a National Public Radio reporter sitting near his feet - again called for a federal prescription-drug benefit and decried the lack of universal insurance coverage for children. 'In America,' he intoned, 'that's wrong, and we need to do something about it.'" (Eric Dyer, "Testing The Waters?" News & Record, June 23, 2002)

In 2001, Edwards Voted To Table An Amendment That Would Have Prohibited The Use Of Public Funds For Needle Exchange Programs In The District Of Columbia. (Amendment to H.R. 2994, Roll Call #328: Motion To Table Passed 53-47: R 5-44; D 47-3; I 1-0, November 7, 2001)

Edwards' Liberal Record On Taxes/Fiscal Responsibility

Edwards Voted Against President Bush's Bipartisan Tax Relief Package. (H.R. 1836, Roll Call #170: Passed 58-33: R 46-2; D 12-31, May 26, 2001)

Edwards Voted Against Permanent Repeal Of The Estate Tax. (H.R. 8, Roll Call #151: Failed 54-44: R 45-2; D 9-42, June 12, 2002)

In 2001, Edwards Voted Against A Capital Gains Tax Rate Reduction. (Amendment To H.R. 1836, Roll Call #115: Failed 47-51: R 40-8; D 7-43, May 21, 2001)

In 2000, Edwards Voted Against A Bill That Would Have Reduced Taxes On Married Couples. (H.R. 4810, Roll Call #215: Adopted 61-38: R 53-1; D 8-37, July 18, 2000)

In 2000, Edwards Voted Against A Temporary Suspension Of The Gasoline Tax. (S. 2285, Roll Call #80: Failed 43-56: R 43-12; D 0-44, April 11, 2000)

Edwards' Liberal Record On The Environment

Edwards Argued That President Bush's New Source Review Plan "Defies Common Sense." 'It defies common sense to me,' said Sen. John Edwards, D-N.C." (Karen Masterson, "Port Arthur Activist Testifies Against Easing Clean Air Laws," The Houston Chronicle, July 17, 2002)

AT ODDS WITH FELLOW DEMOCRATS

On Trade Promotion Authority

Edwards Disagrees With Kerry, Daschle And Lieberman On Trade Promotion Authority. Edwards voted against trade promotion authority, but Kerry, Daschle and Lieberman voted for it. (H.R. 3009, Roll Call #207: Passed 64-34: R 43-5; D 20-29; I 1-0, August 1, 2002)

On Common Sense Tort Reform

Edwards Disagrees With Lieberman On Tort Reform. Unlike his Senate colleague Lieberman, Edwards adamantly opposes liability limits and civil justice reform. (Jill Zuckman, "Medical Bill," Chicago Tribune, June 24, 2001; Senator Lieberman, Press Conference, July 15, 1999)


And much more when you click on the link. Perhaps YOU should be the one looking at his voting record, pastiche.
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IndyOp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-06-08 05:57 PM
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26. That is a good list! Thank you. (n/t)
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Quixote1818 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-05-08 11:44 PM
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13. That was one example. nt
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Cameron27 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-05-08 11:45 PM
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14. Yep, that's what he picked when asked.
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Phoebe Loosinhouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-05-08 11:48 PM
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15. He picked a specific bill with the specific intent to PROTECT
Patients from the vagaries and outrages they are subjected to all the time.

A "Patient Bill of Rights". That is totally emblematic of him. Why wouldn't he pick it? The fact that it didn't pass is not a comment on him but on all the other reps who are beholden to the entrenched interests and who eat the weenies on the cocktail circuit.
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2rth2pwr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-06-08 03:45 PM
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16. Can you give New Hampshire voters a guide of something significant that you accomplished in your six
years as a US Senator?

MR. EDWARDS: Absolutely. I can tell you exactly one -- I'll give you one very specific example, a big example.

It is not an accomplishment. It's like saying Kucinich got Cheney impeached.
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Evergreen Emerald Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-06-08 04:10 PM
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19. He reemed Clinton for not passing Health Care in the 90's
blamed her for the Republican's wall. He said she failed. And yet, he gives himself a free pass, and when asked what he changes he made when he had the opportunity, it appears that he chose something that he failed at.
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Maven Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-06-08 04:07 PM
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18. I'm kicking this thread just for that dog picture.
:rofl:
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smoogatz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-06-08 04:23 PM
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21. Well, he did co-sponsor the IWR.
Edited on Sun Jan-06-08 04:25 PM by smoogatz
Which accomplished nearly 4,000 dead Americans, 30,000 wounded Americans, 600,000+ dead Iraqis, and a trillion taxpayer dollars down a fucking rat-hole by the time it's over. So there's that.

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2rth2pwr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-06-08 06:07 PM
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27. True, that was kind of a big deal. nt
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mahina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-06-08 05:09 PM
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23. Hardly his only accomplishment.
Not true and not helpful.
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AP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-06-08 05:14 PM
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24. Did you know that after he won a case against a trucking company whose driver rear-ended and killed
Edited on Sun Jan-06-08 05:14 PM by AP
a mother and father (leaving their young son without his parents), the trucking companies changed their policies so that drivers didn't have an incentive to drive without resting...but then the Republican-dominated NC legislature passed a law insulating them from liability.

One of the reasons Edwards ran for public office was so that government couldn't pull the rug out from underneath attempts by society to make the world a less miserable place.

Do you have any doubt about what kind of world a President Edwards would try to create?
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-06-08 06:11 PM
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28. An Accomplishment means much more than voting or even co-sponsoring a bill.....
and it appears that john Edwards didn't accomplish that much while in the senate for six years.
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