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NoBorders Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-06-08 08:57 AM
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Does Clinton really have THAT much more experience?
Than Obama? I believe Obama has more experience as an elected official, both have lots of experience practicing law on behalf of more vulnerable members of society. Sure Clinton has been around longer and has a bit more general work experience I suppose. And of course she was the First Lady, but she wasn't in the hot seat to get things done for the country.

I'm just not convinved that HRC has THAT much more valuable experience than Obama--some, yes, but not enough to make that her distinguishing feature vs. Obama.
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AtomicKitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-06-08 09:00 AM
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1. Depends what "experience" means.
The top three have different experience, and I really don't think she is any more qualified than the others; in fact, the old-timers (two gone) are the experienced candidates in the true sense of the word.

Judgment > Experience

IMO Obama got it right on Iraq from before its onset and the other two front-runners voted for the war.
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bigdarryl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-06-08 09:00 AM
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2. Her claim to fame is being married to big dog and being first lady
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PADemD Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-06-08 09:06 AM
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3. In the debate last night, she said she took on the oil companies.
What did she do?
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NoBorders Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-06-08 09:09 AM
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4. Good question. I take them on weekly
Edited on Sun Jan-06-08 09:09 AM by NoBorders
at the gas pump and curse them mightily.
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indimuse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-06-08 09:17 AM
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5. Obama voted for President Bush's energy bill,increasing hardship for families
I wish one of his opponents would repeat these votes one after another in a speech:

Obama voted for President Bush's energy bill, sending more than $13 billion in subsidies and tax breaks to oil, coal, and nuclear companies. Obama voted with Republicans to allow credit card companies to raise interest rates over 30 percent, increasing hardship for families on the brink. Obama voted for one of President Bush's top priorities - expanding Nafta to South America - even as President Bush obstructed all the top Democratic priorities.

Obama voted with Bush to make it harder for ordinary people to hold big corporations accountable when they do things like sell toxic toys, poisonous pet food, or just plain rip you off.

Obama was the Senate's biggest Democratic advocate of subsidies for liquid coal, even though liquid coal produces twice the global warming pollution of the crude oil it's meant to replace (Obama "backed off" this position after being pummeled by environmentalists for several months, but still, along with Clinton, voted for increased subsidies, albeit with conditions).

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NoBorders Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-06-08 09:35 AM
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7. This means HRC has more experience?
Edited on Sun Jan-06-08 09:38 AM by NoBorders
And by the way, any Senator running for president is going to have votes that could be used against them, including HRC.
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indimuse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-06-08 09:41 AM
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8. yes and..
Obama votes more with Bush than Hillary.

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NoBorders Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-06-08 09:54 AM
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10. HRC voted more with Bush than Obama did
Edited on Sun Jan-06-08 09:55 AM by NoBorders
In other words, please back up your claims with evidence. And again, this has nothing to do with experience.

(edited for clarity).
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PADemD Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-06-08 09:48 AM
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9. You didn't answer my question. What did Hillary do to take on the oil companies?
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indimuse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-06-08 10:40 AM
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13. A member of the Environment and Public Works Committee during her six and a half years .
A member of the Environment and Public Works Committee during her six and a half years in the Senate, she has sponsored or cosponsored nearly 400 legislative proposals related to energy and the environment. They've hit on high-profile topics like energy independence as well as less-discussed green issues like toxic exposure, environmental justice, and brownfield redevelopment. While Clinton hasn't been a trailblazer in the fight against climate change, she has been vocal on the need to pursue clean energy and protect the Arctic National Wildlife Refuge. Her efforts have earned a respectable grade from the League of Conservation Voters -- a 90 percent lifetime voting score.


One of her
Yesterday Exxon declared the biggest profit in the entire history of capitalism — $39 billion — and that did not escape Hillary's notice. Today she promised to tax

Exxon on those huge profits, and tax those greedy capitalist pigs big time. Here's her quote:


SOMETHING she will do when elected.................




http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j1PfE9K8j0g

"I want to take those profits and put them into an alternative energy fund that will begin to fund alternative smart energy alternatives that will actually begin to move us

toward the direction of independence."

She referred to those profits as the highest in the history of the world, and she said: "I want to take those profits..." Not I want to take part of those profits. "I want to

take those profits," she said.

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The Ghost Donating Member (557 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-06-08 09:21 AM
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6. I agree
And if HRC has more experience, which I think is a false argument, then Im voting for Laura Bush for President.
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dmosh42 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-06-08 10:13 AM
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11. Richardson is the only one with constructive 'experience'...
as he reminds everyone each debate. But like DK, I know he's right, but he or DK wouldn't stand a chance against the Repukes. In the end, I think McCain will be the Repuke candidate, so in terms of experience, they're all products of the Senate, so we should be ok with any of the three.
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rucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-06-08 10:15 AM
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12. If she's standing next to Richardson, saying she has the most...
then draw your own conclusions.
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Thrill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-06-08 10:41 AM
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14. She loves to run on Bill's record
You're not Bill
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