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Tue Jan-08-08 05:45 PM
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So Bill Clinton thinks people supporting Obama are basically stupid |
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I saw his like speech complaining about Obama on the war. He to me sounds like a complete idiot
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Tue Jan-08-08 05:47 PM
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1. foolish dreamers, full of false hope and fairy tales |
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Tue Jan-08-08 05:58 PM
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He was a foolish dreamer himself. He got his reality check in the White House. He knows what goes. |
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Tue Jan-08-08 06:07 PM
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29. Is that why he praised George Bush? |
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Said we should give him the benefit of the doubt on the yellowcake? Said he liked him very much at his Presidential library opening? Becaue he'd learned so much in the White House???
Is that why he hasn't once attacked the press as they've carried water for the Bushies all these years, or when they attacked John Kerry? But NOW he wants to whine after the media practically annointed Hillary all last year.
Face it, Bill Clinton is not who you thought he was.
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Tue Jan-08-08 06:15 PM
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32. I suspect G Bush Sr. helped the Clintons and presidency during the Starr investigation. |
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Edited on Tue Jan-08-08 06:15 PM by terisan
Clinton was not prepared for what he would face in the presidency. The crap started flying at both of them early on and they proved to be fighters.
I voted for Clinton in 1992 when he took everything flung at him in the NYC primary and remained standing at the end (and in fact won), I figured he was inexperienced but wouln't fold no matter what....and he didn't. Neither did she.
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Tue Jan-08-08 05:47 PM
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BTW
Hillary is the one that's running for President.
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Tue Jan-08-08 05:48 PM
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7. thats there problem there putting him out front to fight for her it should be her |
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Tue Jan-08-08 05:50 PM
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9. why do you give him more importance |
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than Michelle or Elizabeth?
They are out there stumping too.
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Tue Jan-08-08 05:51 PM
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It is because he is a former president.
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Tue Jan-08-08 05:54 PM
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Edited on Tue Jan-08-08 05:54 PM by maddiejoan
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Tue Jan-08-08 05:54 PM
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He's not allowed to stump for his spouse?
If Michelle and Elizabeth can stump --so can Bill.
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Tue Jan-08-08 05:57 PM
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23. Of course he can and should campaign for his wife. |
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But please do not pretend that he is just a political spouse as the others are.
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Tue Jan-08-08 05:59 PM
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25. That doesn't mean that Hillary |
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is hiding behind Bill --or trotting him out to "fight her battles" for her.
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Tue Jan-08-08 06:35 PM
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35. I am sure that they both and a lot of politicos too thought |
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that Bill would be the biggest asset she had. As a big supporter didn't you?
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Tue Jan-08-08 06:38 PM
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36. I'll be honest with you |
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No --I didn't. I knew he'd be a little plus --and big minus.
Mind you --I liked Bill Clinton's Presidency BECAUSE of Hillary. I'd rather have had her as President back then too.
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Tue Jan-08-08 06:40 PM
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37. Actually, I will agree with you on that. |
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Both of course he was the one with the charm.
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Tue Jan-08-08 06:42 PM
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Tue Jan-08-08 05:47 PM
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Tue Jan-08-08 05:49 PM
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Links..Facts..you KNOW thats not required for Clinton bashing |
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Tue Jan-08-08 05:54 PM
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Tue Jan-08-08 05:47 PM
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4. I think that's been Clinton's campaign strategy. |
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Months ago I said Clinton thinks we're stupid.
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Tue Jan-08-08 05:55 PM
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believe his stupid lies. Yeah.
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Tue Jan-08-08 05:47 PM
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5. Meh. He sounds like a guy trying to get his wife elected as far as I'm concerned. |
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Edited on Tue Jan-08-08 05:48 PM by SteppingRazor
If I were Bill, I'd probably be doing the same. Though, admittedly, it's gotta be bizarre for him to suddenly feel like the establishment guy trying to push for the party candidate.
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Tue Jan-08-08 05:52 PM
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12. Sometimes he sounds like a guy NOT trying to get his wife elected, but maintaining image |
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Gotta wonder sometimes. Bill is NOT dumb, but he is sure pulling some bone headed stunts lately.
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Tue Jan-08-08 05:56 PM
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20. There is a Clinton brandname to uphold, but I don't think it goes so far... |
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as Bill not doing the right thing for Hillary's campaign. I don't think he realized that his comments would result in such a backlash.
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Tue Jan-08-08 06:11 PM
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30. if that's the case, his time spent with Poppy has diminished his people skills |
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I had hoped some of Bill's humanity would rub off on the elder bush. Seems the elder bush has just make Bill prickly to the point of dulling his senses.
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Tue Jan-08-08 05:56 PM
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things could change and he does like a rookie 101 slimer.
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Tue Jan-08-08 05:48 PM
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6. why is it any more stupid than supporting him was in '92? |
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when he was presenting himself in much the same way as Obama is doing today.
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Tue Jan-08-08 05:58 PM
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bill must think we're stupid AND don't have memories.
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Tue Jan-08-08 06:02 PM
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27. Because he wasn;t ready for the forces that would be unleashed upon him. |
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Tue Jan-08-08 05:49 PM
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Edited on Tue Jan-08-08 05:50 PM by itsrobert
Some are just swept away in all the hype.
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Tue Jan-08-08 05:51 PM
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11. It was very sad to see. |
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I guess desperate times call foe desperate measures. I don't see these attacks changing many votes.
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Tue Jan-08-08 05:52 PM
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13. quite a leap there. even though surely he would be right to think some obama ... |
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supporters are not that smart.
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Tue Jan-08-08 05:54 PM
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We are all just mindless zombies because we don't support Hillary. Got it. Now STFU.
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Tue Jan-08-08 05:54 PM
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18. Its a fairy tell when they support Obama but when he was saying the same things |
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It was great.
This guy is a big ass Hypocrite
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Tue Jan-08-08 06:00 PM
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26. No he is a guy who know better now. The Republicans and Starr almont destroyed him. |
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If they can;t own you totally, they will aim to destroy you totally.
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Tue Jan-08-08 05:57 PM
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22. Either that or he is grossly misinformed |
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He made a bunch of factually incorrect statements in his little diatribe. I don't think he's that badly misinformed. He's just hoping to get it on TV and hope people buy it.
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Tue Jan-08-08 06:03 PM
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28. Obama has been saying yea to those war funding bills for 3 years now. |
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Edited on Tue Jan-08-08 06:04 PM by terisan
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Tue Jan-08-08 06:13 PM
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31. As did Feingold, Kennedy, Boxer, and every other Senate Dem |
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Tue Jan-08-08 06:18 PM
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33. Check your "every". Obama has been toeing the line on Iraq War since entering Senate. |
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He keeps presenting himself as guy against war-----he could have made a stirring speech in Senate on getting out now. If he made it I missed it.
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Tue Jan-08-08 06:23 PM
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34. I'm talking about funding, in which case it is "every" |
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Obama has talked about getting out, but he's not going to change anything as long as Bush is in power.
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Tue Jan-08-08 06:46 PM
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39. This may be off the wall, but I think the Clintons do not understand the power of the internet. |
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When he won in 92 there was AOL, Compuserve, etc. In 96, the WWW was new and people were still using Archie and Veronica to search/view the web. Bill's victories included managing the main stream media and he and his War Room did that very well.
Hillary's win in 2000 was so lopsided that the internet really did not play a big role.
Today, in a YouTube world, we all have amazing access to near-real-time information and the ability to see polls on a daily basis. Obama understands how to "play the web". Edwards does too, but Obama seems to do it better and faster.
FWIW
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