Greenwood
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Wed Jan-09-08 08:46 AM
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Is it possible that the election was a Fix last night? |
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I am not saying it happened but it looks very suspicious.
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MethuenProgressive
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Wed Jan-09-08 08:48 AM
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1. Yes, the only way Obama ended up with that many votes had to be he cheated. |
LostinVA
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Wed Jan-09-08 08:49 AM
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Did you see my thread on here?
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Wed Jan-09-08 09:00 AM
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13. Zomby had the whole thing wrong, he didn't include undecideds which comprised a large % |
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Wed Jan-09-08 09:26 AM
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I am so glad it's catching on...
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LostinVA
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Wed Jan-09-08 08:49 AM
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2. Just get over and go play somehwhere else |
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Obama won Iowa. HRC won NH. That's it.
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Wed Jan-09-08 08:49 AM
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she won it fair and square according to the Exit Polls. The women -- who had abandoned her in Iowa -- voted for her in droves and the under 30 vote -- key to both Obama's win in Iowa and his surge in the post-Iowa Polls -- didn't show up in the large numbers they thought they would.
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Wed Jan-09-08 08:51 AM
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5. This thread showed up quicker than I expected. |
cali
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Wed Jan-09-08 08:53 AM
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She won. Live with it. And check out the exit polls.
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Wed Jan-09-08 08:53 AM
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7. No, the voters decided the want a President, not a Messiah. |
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Wed Jan-09-08 08:54 AM
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I think her campaign underestimated Obama's strength though
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Wed Jan-09-08 08:56 AM
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9. Clinton was always predicted to win NH |
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Obama's win in Iowa was shocking. The polls did shift briefly in his favor, but probably including a lot of unreliable voters also. Why is everyone acting to shocked at Clinton's victory?
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Greenwood
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Wed Jan-09-08 08:58 AM
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10. Same reason we were shocked with Bush's "victory".... |
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No one was saying it was foolish to say Bush stole the elction?
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Wed Jan-09-08 08:59 AM
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2000 wasn't "fixed" by voting machines but by process.
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Wed Jan-09-08 08:59 AM
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For fuck's sake. They aren't fixed. Sometimes, you just FUCKING LOSE ELECTIONS.
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Wed Jan-09-08 09:00 AM
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Wed Jan-09-08 09:02 AM
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15. Again, hate to say it, but FOX News Exit Polling called it for Hillary 39-37. nt |
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Wed Jan-09-08 09:04 AM
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I hear Karl Rove is working for her now!
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Wed Jan-09-08 09:12 AM
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17. Primaries are much easier to fix than caucuses |
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I'm not levelling accusations, just pointing out the obvious. :hi:
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Wed Jan-09-08 09:16 AM
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18. I watched the results like a hawk: All precints were homogeneously reporting to keep HRC 2-3 pts up |
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THAT, in and of itself, I find *interesting.* :shrug:
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Wed Jan-09-08 09:28 AM
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21. Caucuses are easier to bully others into switching sides. You can vote your heart in a primary. |
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Wed Jan-09-08 09:32 AM
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23. But will that vote be accurately reported? |
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Yes, you can be bullied in a caucus. But the actual results are relatively transparent, as the entire caucus process is open to the public. Even without consideration of blackbox voting machines, actual elections are not open to that kind of scrutiny.
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Wed Jan-09-08 09:23 AM
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19. This is bullshit - please read Skinner's thread about the so-call "fix" |
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Wed Jan-09-08 09:34 AM
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25. Here, this helps..... |
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Wed Jan-09-08 09:29 AM
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22. Is it possible I'm out of tin foil? |
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Wed Jan-09-08 09:34 AM
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24. This is beyong ridiculous. |
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Understand...the youth loves big crowds and excitement, but not standing in long lines. Obama can't put all his hope on them unless he can change the voting system and we all vote on our cell phones.
Last night they held out hope because the college towns hadn't come in. Obama had been there that very day and got huge crowds. I would be very interested in knowing how many in that huge crowd is actually registered to vote.
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