Bill And Hillary Clinton Are Not Racists

[DemocratSinceBirth]

The suggestion that they are is very disappointing...

And now I see folks on this board suggesting they don't like Hispanic folks either...

It's shameful...

[sandnsea]

1. Nah, just classless power-hungry has beens

Who would do or say anything to win.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

3. I'll Bookmark This Post When Hillary Becomes #44

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[sandnsea]

5. Hey, Bush has proven one thing to me

the best doesn't always win.

[Adelante]

2. I don't think they are racists

I think the affection shared with the black community is genuine. I think they are not above racial politics if it benefits them. They are politicians.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

4. Anybody Can Play Racial Politics...Look At This Board...

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[Adelante]

12. No kidding - on both sides nt

[City Lights]

16. I've been hiding a lot of threads lately. eom

[Adelante]

19. I have also, lots and lots

But I've never had to hide a DemSinceBirth thread.

[earthside]

6. 'Win at all costs' ...

... that is unfortunately the kind of politicians that the Clintons are.

So, if it takes using some unsavory rhetoric to get ahead, that's what they will do.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

8. And Accusing Folks Of Being Racists When They Aren't Is Nice

I literally can't think of a worse thing to call a person...

[Evergreen Emerald]

9. I think it is the opposite: I think Obama is using race to win.

Suggesting that they are racist. Putting out press releases on Clinton's racism. And just before SC vote--how convenient.

[Cameron27]

11. That memo is disturbing

and Obama should make a statement about it.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

13. I Am Trying My Best Not To Go There

The only thing worse than being a racist is accusing someone who isn't a racist of being one...

[Franks Wild Years]

14. Yes, "win at all costs"

That sums them up perfectly.

As for the question of racism, no, I don't believe they would consider themselves so on a personal level. When it comes to campaign rhetoric, on the other hand, I really don't think they would flinch about using racially flammable language, providing that it ultimately offers them an advantage.

Overall, I do not consider them any more or less prone to acts of "racism" than, say, George W. Bush.

[Sarah Ibarruri]

7. I couldn't agree more. I'm an Edwards supporter, but the Clintons have NEVER been racists. nt

[cali]

10. Never said they were. In fact, have said they aren't.

They're merely triangulating and dishonest.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

15. And What Do You Call People Who Accuse Other People Of Being Racists Who Aren't?

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[vi5]

17. I think they are whatever is convenient..

..when their opponents are the racist republican party they are running against a republican they'll use pro minority racial overtones to help them win.

When they are running against an african american man, they'll use other racial overtones to help them win.

I dismissed this bullshit the first couple of time certain things slipped out and/or could have been chalked up to things being taken out of context, but it's just becoming too common and too frequent for my liking and I can no longer just chalk it up to the big bad media.

And I don't even particularly like Obama any more so than I like Hillary so this isn't some "Boo-hoo.....poor Obama is being attacked by Hillary." I think his anti Democratic overtures and trafficking in republican talking point stereotypes of dem on things like Social Security and a whole host of other issues have made me not particularly enthusiastic about him or even inclined to vote for him.

But there's absolutely no doubt in my mind at this point that the Clinton's are using a lot of veiled racism (themselves and through surrogates) and playing on people's prejudice to turn voters against Obama.

As far as I'm concerned they can have at each other all they want. I'll likely vote in the GE for whichever one wins, albeit unenthusiastically. But anyone who says they're not using subtle racism and subtle racist stereotypes to win this thing are flat out fools. And as much as I hate to admit this, that's more (albeit slightly more) reprehensible to me than using subtle anti Democratic stereotypes to win.

[martymar64]

18. I see them more as limousine liberals

They will put on the compassionate act when raising money or giving speeches. But when it comes down to it, they are wealthy elitists that only have loyalty to the monied class. The policies of Welfare Reform is a classic example. The policies of the Drug War are another. NAFTA yet another. They will bend over backwards to help their wealthy contributors and cronies but will give working people the back of their hand, except the rare sop like the FMLA.

Black or White is irrelevant to them, the only color they favor is green.

[burythehatchet]

20. No, they are absolutely NOT racists, IMO

but they are perfectly willing to use race to achieve their objectives. The ends always justify the means for the Clintons.

[Marrah_G]

21. When a circular firing squad is created all the enemy need to do to win is keep feeding you bullets

Sadly many here are to quick to take whatever ammunition is handed to them.

The GOP cannot beat us....only WE can beat us.

The Clintons are not Racists and Obama is not Anti-Gay... anyone who has been convinced of that (including the campaigns themselves) has been manipulated by the RW spin machine and don't even realize it.

Both Candidates (Not their aides) need to stand up and say " We will not play this game. We will not fall for this manipulation any more"

THAT is how we will win.

[Captain Hilts]

22. And it's just flat-out wrong. nt

[Hello_Kitty]

23. Then that makes what they are doing even more disgusting

They may not be racist but they are calculating power-hungry opportunists. I'm sick of them. I want them gone.

[guruoo]

24. Well put. Thank you - k&r n/t

[THUNDER HANDS]

25. they are in no way racist

but they will dip their toe on the line every now and then to see how Obama reacts to some poking.

[krabigirl]

26. Nope, and to call them that is just ridiculous and childish.

[Gman]

27. Please don't post stuff like this

The moment you respond with something like this you're playing their game. Never play the other man's game.

Bill and Hillary do not need defending. Anyone that matters already knows this.

[KittyWampus]

28. I've seen very VERY few people calling them racist. It's absurd to claim so. They ARE ruthless pols,

however. With no scruples. And absolutely no interest in what's good for the Democratic Party as a whole or the country except as anything furthers their own careers.

They aren't racist. But they are myopic to the extreme.

[OzarkDem]

29. Very disappointing

and very destructive to the Democratic Party overall. As I've said before, its a GOP wet dream.

[MethuenProgressive]

30. That's exactly why they're being Swiftboated by Obama on Race,

Kerry was strongest on his support of our military and his Vietnam record of heroism during - and after - his service. Karl Rove and his surrogates chose to attack him where he was strongest, and were successful.
One of the strongest aspects of the Clinton's record is the overwhelmingly positive relationship with the African American and other minority communities.
Will Barack Obama be as successful in Swiftboating Hillary Clinton as Karl Rove was in Swiftboating John Kerry, or will Democrats reject Obama's tactics?
Time will tell.

[DemCam]

31. Well said, indeed.

And just think, the Republicans don't even have to spend their money
on it. Well done, Dems who are buying into this. Karl's gotta love it.
Bet he even is in awe. Probably wouldn't have thought of making such
an accusation himself.