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Mon Jan-14-08 06:51 PM
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I thought Obama waited several days too long to show leadership on the "MLK" controversy. |
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I was posting several days ago that Obama needed to put an end to the controversy and tell people to cut it out.
It took way too long which makes me suspicious that the comment today was more about reading a backlash than real leadership.
The Clintons were on the offensive the next day on black radio trying to put a stop to this divisive BS that Obama has finally agreed is BS.
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Mon Jan-14-08 06:51 PM
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1. I don't. The Clintons were tap dancing alone while he moved on. |
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Mon Jan-14-08 06:52 PM
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He responded with a very agreeable answer. When is enough enough? Do you just want to continue fighting? What good is that going to do. Rise above my friend - we're democrats, and we're better than that.
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Mon Jan-14-08 06:55 PM
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5. Look, it's not pleasant but leadership and timing are issues our candidate will have to understand |
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If some poster at DU could see where this was going and was saying this is what Obama needed to do LAST WEEK why did it take him so long? I suspect the temptation to let it go longer so it would pay off in SC is part of the motivation and that's not leadership.
Don't get me wrong, if it was strategic then I get it, this is politics but I think if it was it was BAD strategy for Obama and a failure on this particular test.
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Mon Jan-14-08 06:57 PM
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8. When are the Clinton's going to condemn |
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johnson's comments? Or Cuomo's? Or is this just more of your double standard and Obama hate? Wait, why am I asking you that? I know the answer.
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Mon Jan-14-08 07:05 PM
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21. Both said they were misinterpreted so Clintons would have to call them "liars" |
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Since they're not in their heads, how can they do that?
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Mon Jan-14-08 06:53 PM
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Your foaming at the mouth hate of Obama has been noted. And if you think that your more rational posting of the last few hours will redeem your days and days of hate, you must think Duers are really stupid. Wrong.
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Mon Jan-14-08 06:57 PM
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7. My posts before were defenses of my candidate and responding to BS. That's not irrational |
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What's irrational is saying you won't vote for a candidate because of primary fights, which I never said but lots of Obama DUers have.
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Mon Jan-14-08 07:00 PM
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they were flamebait. Pure unadultarated hate based flamebait. And you know fucking well that not only have I said repeatedly that I'd vote for Clinton if she's the nominee, but that I've defended her against bullshit. In fact, you posted in a thread of mine that did just that.
Disgusting. But what else can we expect from you?
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Mon Jan-14-08 07:06 PM
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24. I didn't mean "you" I meant "you" as "one." |
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Mon Jan-14-08 06:54 PM
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4. Still waiting for the Clintons to show similar leadership |
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Mon Jan-14-08 07:00 PM
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12. Dog was on Al Sharpton the next day but they had nothing to defend anyway. |
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Mon Jan-14-08 06:56 PM
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6. It takes to to tango. nt |
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Mon Jan-14-08 06:59 PM
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Mon Jan-14-08 06:59 PM
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10. So I was thinking about what I was going to have for dinner tonight... |
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...pasta? Maybe, but I've been cooking up noodles too often lately.
I dunno, maybe some sausage or something, with rice? Who's got some suggestions--and keep them simple, because I'm a fairly lousy cook.
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Mon Jan-14-08 07:00 PM
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13. Spaghetti and garden salad! |
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Easy and fun if you've got the sauce ready!
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Mon Jan-14-08 07:03 PM
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Spaghetti is my least favorite kind of pasta... |
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...I like the ones with filling, like ravioli or tortellini. But in a pinch, macaroni or rigatoni is just fine...
But in any case, too many carbs lately, so that's out.
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Mon Jan-14-08 07:02 PM
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15. You can make a fairly good risotto even without Arborio rice |
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If you have sausage and broth, an onion, maybe some frozen peas and parmesan, I can help you out.
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Mon Jan-14-08 07:06 PM
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23. Wow, that sounds GOOD. |
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I'm a single guy in my mid-twenties, so I don't usually cook meals that take too long to prepare or clean up after.
Sausage is easy to work with, and I love combining it with other things in my fridge, like peas, rice, or broth...when I have a girlfriend again, I'll put more time and effort into that stuff.
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Mon Jan-14-08 07:02 PM
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I suspect that Obama is pulling a George Bush-tactic, by first letting his surrogates spread the dirt, then, later, claiming to be "above it all".
Both the Obama and the Clinton campaigns are engaging in Rovian dirt.
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Mon Jan-14-08 07:02 PM
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16. Come on. I'm a Clinton supporter and I'd |
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like to hear her come out and say that Robert Johnson acted like an asshole.I haven't heard it yet,it won't affect my vote,but pretending he said what he said innocently is weak.There is no perfect campaign being run out there.
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Mon Jan-14-08 07:03 PM
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18. The thing about that is they would have to say he lied and you don't do that lightly. |
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Mon Jan-14-08 07:06 PM
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25. They could have said"we disagree with his use |
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of language that could be interpreted as a slur against Obama and we regret it happened at a Clinton event."
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Mon Jan-14-08 07:10 PM
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28. That would only prolong it. "What do you mean, how could it be interpreted against Obama" |
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Mon Jan-14-08 07:18 PM
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30. OK ,I'll play. Then they could have said: |
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"We have heard from some in the African American community that a great many thought it was in bad taste.Obama is an adult and his childhood is irrelevant". Although,typing that out,I realize what you are saying. I suppose the next question would be "Why would some in the African American find comments about Obamas childhood offensive".But hey, I'm not a political consultant and they get paid big bucks to find a way.:D
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Mon Jan-14-08 07:03 PM
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Mon Jan-14-08 07:03 PM
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19. YAWN.......Your bullshit is getting old |
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Mon Jan-14-08 07:06 PM
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You're a complete and utter shill.
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Mon Jan-14-08 07:07 PM
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27. You could say that if I wasn't here days ago saying Obama needed to stop it right then |
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Mon Jan-14-08 07:06 PM
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thought..Obama sure knows a hell of lot more you or that smearin' and jeerin' hillary.
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Mon Jan-14-08 07:14 PM
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29. Now Im going to have to resurrect it again.... |
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Mon Jan-14-08 07:19 PM
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31. too bad Hillary couldn't have shown some judgement and not made the comment in the first place |
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Edited on Mon Jan-14-08 07:19 PM by JackORoses
No matter how many times she blames this on Obama, it was her own mouth that got her into this.
In fact, Obama is saving her ass on this one, along with the unity of the Democratic Party.
That is true leadership. Obama sees past any short-term gains he could make by attacking Clinton to what really matters... the Future.
Hillary is so stuck in the past that she will keep fighting with all the old political machinations because she is IN IT TO WIN IT! Not for the American People, or the Democratic Party, but for herself.
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