Why are so many people here quick to defend Regan but attack Bill Clinton?

[jackson_dem]

What is going on here? A thread was posted celebrating Clinton's accomplishments and it turned into another of many threads attacking Clinton. Yet we have seen numerous threads in which Reagan is praised and even celebrated. Clinton was trying to undo some of the heavy damage Reagan inflicted on the nation when he "corrected" the "excesses" of the 60's and 70's.

[Mythsaje]

1. Why ask why?

It's gone beyond spin. We've entered the Twilight Zone.

[FrenchieCat]

2. Bullshit! No one is defending Reagan......

which is why everything you typed after that was simply more bullshit.

I'm defending Obama's right to analyze the conservative movement so that we can understand why it was so effective and take from it what we can learn in order to make our progressive movement that much more powerful.

Information is good.

Twisting folks words is bad.

[jackson_dem]

4. Some have and that can't be denied. They usually hate Bill Clinton too...

[FrenchieCat]

6. I didn't like Reagan......

and Bill Clinton was only OK.

What I didn't like about Reagan is that he didn't give a shit about anybody.

What I didn't like about Clinton is that I had to explain what a BJ was to my 8 and 11 year olds daughters.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

8. When I Was A Seven Year Old Boy In New York

A friend of mine bought a photo of a woman performing oral sex on a man to school... I survived...

Plus I don't think Bill Clinton was the first president to fool around in the White House...That honor belongs to Thomas Jerfferson...

[jackson_dem]

10. You aren't one of those who seem to have a soft spot for "Ronnie"

[DemocratSinceBirth]

5. In The Thread I Linked I See Some Supporters Of A Certain Candidate Obliquely Trying To Make The

Case For Reagan...

It is what it is...

Real Democrats don't like Reagan...

[Lasher]

7. Then I must be a real Democrat

Saint Ronnie was a disastrous fraud.

[robbedvoter]

24. I've seen "who cares" threads:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x4096605

[robbedvoter]

27. I've seen "helped restore American pride" posts

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=389&topic_id=2711582&mesg_id=2711688

[robbedvoter]

28. "Saved us from nuclear disaster" posts

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=389&topic_id=2711582&mesg_id=2711651

[robbedvoter]

29. and the even more disturbing: "why attack Bush?" posts from the same people

this thread was after the last debate, BEFORE the raygun interview:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x4093480
but it's the same people justifying not attacking Bush - and it shows a pattern developing

[DemocratSinceBirth]

3. Look At This Thread

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=4109501&mesg_id=4109501


Clinton's economic performance versus Reagan's economic performance has been hotly debated with liberal economists touting Clinton's performance and conservative economists touting Reagan's performance... Here at DU, we actually have people making Reagans' case...

I'm a Democrat...I will not vote with (these) people...

[jackson_dem]

12. It is surprising and raises questions

[DemocratSinceBirth]

14. I Don't know Why Rich (Or) Poor People Vote Republican

If you look at the record Democrats are better for the economy....

[jackson_dem]

16. I know. I have suspicions of some people here who hate Bill C but defend Reagan...

Notice they all support the same "post-partisan" candidate?

[cali]

13. LOL! What baloney you're trying to sell us. And rotten baloney at that.

There is not a single person in that thread touting Reagan as good. YOU are running around saying to one poster who doesn't agree with you that Clinton was the greatest thing since sliced bread; "I'll put you in the Reagan camp, then". \

What a crock of shit.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

17. You Used To Be A Fair Poster I Respected

But I am afraid your zealous advocacy has blinded you to the truth...

I never said Clinton was the best thing since sliced bread... I said by almost any metric Clinton's economic performance was better than Reagan's ...There were two Obama supporters in that thread who tried to obfucate that issue...

Truth always trumps obscurantism, sophistry, and other rhetorical tricks...

[cali]

9. hug that straw man just a little bit closer

and you'll morph right into him.

No. One. Has. Defended. Reagan.

Not. One. Solitary. Person.

Not. Here.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

11. I See Two People In The Thread I Cited Doing What You Say Has Not Occurred

I must admit they were oblique about it...

By any metric the Clinton years were superior to the Reagan years...It's telling that supporters of a certain candidate are trying to obfuscate that fact...

[cali]

15. No, you're insisting that they're saying that.

That's hardly the same thing. And you're conveniently drawing false conclusions about Obama supporters. I'd be the first to say that in every way Clinton was superior to Reagan, and yet I'm not going to shut my eyes to some of the policies that emerged from the Clinton administration that were NOT good for this country. NAFTA has been disasterous.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

18. Just The Facts

1) I said by any objective economic metric Bill Clinton's econmic performance was superior to Ronald Reagan's.

2) There were a number of people from a certain comp who tried to obfusacte that issue.

3) Readers are free to infer from that what they want.

[Perry Logan]

19. I call it "progressive's disease," where you spend 100% of your time attacking Democrats...

...and forget all about Republicans--or even praise them, as the Obama people are now doing.

[robbedvoter]

20. Candidate loyalty trumps all else. I've seen "journalist"Rove taken seriously

Paglia praised, Tweety - emulated. Many here post as if Bush is more acceptable than Clinton - maybe you guys don't even need another election - you got "Reagan's son" on the throne right now!(NYT called W that in a long article - before his numbers went in the crapper)

[Kolesar]

21. What a bullshit thread. Nobody is defending "Regan"

If you had read the threads you should have picked up the spelling of "Reagan"

[DemocratSinceBirth]

22. Because Re(no A) gan Doesn't Deserve An A Unless Your Grover Norquist

~

[Kolesar]

25. Yeah, sure, but more likely Jackson is a jack off

[robbedvoter]

30. see # 24,27, 28 for actual examples. Also, stuff I didn't save links to: Raygun had

"more coattails" than Clinton - meaning he got his VP elected, while Clinton - oh, wait - I thought Gore won his election too!

[Kolesar]

35. Weak. And not worth the time to explore this.

I mean my time.

[Adelante]

23. Bill Clinton put himself into this race

And Hillary is running on his record. Criticism comes with that territory.

Nobody defends Ronald Reagan.

[robbedvoter]

31. True. But Obama could have picked another POTUS to make his point - JFK, FDR

He may have gotten some positive feedback. This undermines anything of substance he wanted to say.

[NoBorders]

26. Where are the numerous threads celebrating and praising Reagan?

I haven't seen them. I would find that quite stunning. Now if you're talking about threads discussing how Reagan had a positive effect on the Repub party, I would agree.

As for anti-bill clinton threads, I guess I just haven't read them. He was a good democratic president, but has long been criticized here for his 'triangulating' and insufficient progressiveness. This is nothing new.

[robbedvoter]

32. #24, 27, 28 on this thread - links to such posts - and a whole thread

[Perky]

33. You reap what you sow?

[robbedvoter]

34. Just found another Reagan adoring thread. From the OP:

"
In the end, a myth is just a myth. A symbol just a symbol.

They are like mirrors and people see what they want to see when they gaze into them.

A smart politician, a smart leader, uses symbols effectively to reach people.

So what Reagan means to YOU is not as important as it what he means to EACH PERSON.

If Reagan made people feel hope, pride and optimism, it is a good thing to evoke THAT aspect of his memory as a symbol of what we all want to feel about our country, about our fellow americans.

SOME OF US WANT VERY MUCH TO LOVE OUR COUNTRY AGAIN!!
(meaning - rest of ya, raygun haters are unpatriotic, right?)
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x4093463