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mtnsnake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 10:58 AM
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While Hillary is condemning the Bush administration, Obama runs around praising Reagan. Figure that!
Even during the debates the only ones blasting Bush by using Bush's name were Hillary and to a lesser extent, John Edwards.

Give me the candidates who blast Republicans any day of the week and twice on Sunday, as opposed to the candidate, Obama, who sings the praises for one of the most vile Republicans ever to shit on our country and set it up for the miserable condition we're all experiencing right now, Ronald Reagan.
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MadBadger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 10:59 AM
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1. Well, at every Campaign stop in every speech, he bashes Bush
And he gives like 3-5 of those a day.
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mtnsnake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 11:04 AM
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6. I'm glad you hear him doing it, because I surely don't. All I see is sucking up to repukes
and Independents.
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ryanmuegge Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 11:29 AM
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13. I think that's a legitimate point. I hope he's only talking this bipartisanship tripe to win
Like Bush did in 2000. If we can get a bigger majority in the House and Senate, we need to go in there and start firing off legislation with no regard for anything the Republicans say. We need to completely marginalize them. The last thing we need is bipartisanship with a political party that is as extreme as bin Laden and the Islamic extremists that they talk about.
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mtnsnake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 11:39 AM
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16. I sure hope so, too, ryan
Edited on Sat Jan-19-08 11:40 AM by mtnsnake
Let's just hope that all this sucking up to repukes comes to a screeching halt if he wins the nomination because we sure do not want to become just like our enemy, and his rhetoric about Reagan and "blah blah blah Republcans" is sickening to hear.

The last thing we need is bipartisanship with a political party that is as extreme as bin Laden and the Islamic extremists that they talk about


You said it. And the last thing we need to do is hear ANY Democrat speaking so highly of Ronald Reagan during his campaign speeches and reaching out to Republicans in such a general manner. There is no way I'm gonna sit around the campfire and sing Kumbaya with any repukes just because Obama thinks we should. I'm sure there isn't a rightwing repuke around who's gonna consider it either.
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Sarah Ibarruri Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 11:00 AM
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2. Okay, has Hillary promised to reverse what this administration has done?
That's all I care about.
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mac2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 11:03 AM
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4. Me too
When do we get out of Iraq?

Stop the lies for war? http://www.truthout.org/docs_2006/011108J.shtml

Get back our rights which every candidates for President should fight for.

"It's the economy stupid!"
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tabatha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 11:03 AM
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3. sings praises?
really?
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mac2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 11:34 AM
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15. Reagan believed in the elite (even thou he was a poor boy) and complete
Edited on Sat Jan-19-08 11:47 AM by mac2
control as President. Many Democrats aren't but Republicans. Reagan was a globalist, robber, murderer, and traitor. He "privatized" and closed mental institutions and put the ill on the streets.

Nancy wanted to be a "Queen" like the other Neo Con one in Britain. Not much to admire do you think?

We still haven't paid off Reagan's debt (even in the Clinton years) because of his Empire building for war equipment, Star Wars,. etc. and control in S. America. Russia wasn't as powerful as he said. Both countries took up an arms race for Empire while their citizens suffered in the long run.

Reagan started the destruction of California. The state which was so generous to him as to trust him with power. He became a traitor to the country which gave him so much.

Reagan gave a good speech in the beginning but didn't mean a word or it (like Bush, etc.). We have been lied to too many times by Presidents (and candidates). It's time to stop that road to destruction and criminality.

"Eight Presidents reveal the U.S.lust for Global Domination." Read: Lying for Empire-How to Commit War Crimes With a Straight Face by author David Model. When I read this book it occurred to me we've had corporatists in "the people's house" since Truman. President GW Bush (couldn't get elected so had to steal his way to power) is the benefactor and worst of the bunch.

Obama has been a globalist since he came to Congress. He is not a Democrat at all so why do we expect anything less? He was supported by the RW Chicago Tribune newspaper. Republicans and media were so excited about him. They surrounded him like he was a "political star" after leaders such as Martin Luther King, etc. He has done nothing to earn that comparison. Does that give you a clue? He's a Colin Powell like puppet who they can use and destroy on a whim.

Today, the elite are using women and Afro-Americans. If we complain they accuse us of being "bigots". I'm not intimidated by that. When are we going to hold the crooks and liars responsible? We tried to get a message out in the election of 2006 but the Democratic leaders prevented it. They gave our power to Republicans once again.

None dare call it treason, but I do.





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Rock_Garden Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 11:04 AM
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5. Hey, Snake. K&R!
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mtnsnake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 11:21 AM
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10. Hey, Rocky!
thanks
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liberalnurse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 11:15 AM
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7. Mtsnake; I love-ya!
I'm at the Clinic today using my PDA for my DU fix. Posting is awkward. I appreciate your enthusiasm!
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mtnsnake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 11:21 AM
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9. Right back at ya, liberalnurse
:loveya:
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 11:18 AM
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8. Hillary "has always had a good personal relationship with the president"
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mtnsnake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 11:23 AM
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11. Good for her. She also tells the truth about that asshole regularly when she blasts him
into outer space like she does in her speeches and during the debates.
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robbedvoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 11:24 AM
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12. Obama called Bush "efficient" in the debate. Hillary called him pathetic.
Edited on Sat Jan-19-08 11:25 AM by robbedvoter
Some days ago, someone posted here: why arent't the candidates attacking Bush? I said - I hope they will, and the one who does it better gets my support. That debate was a turning point for me. Even before raygun.
P.S. I am waiting for more of the same from Hillary before I give her my vote. But I sure don't buy that Obama is more progressive than her meme I used to believe in.
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mtnsnake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 11:33 AM
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14. Exactly, robbedvoter. Not only did she blast him w/that one but several direct name references, too
where she pasted Bush and wasn't afraid to say his name.
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mac2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 11:44 AM
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17. Hillary said Bush's name?
How is that important to getting our country back and making those liars and crooks accountable? There is no impeachment speech,action, or otherwise. No call to bring back our Constitution. Hillary is a lawyer so she should know this is important.

Nancy Pelosi allows them to stay in power so she's one of them too.

They are puppets of the world order elites. It is a "dog and pony show" which I refuse to clutter my beautiful mind (as Barbara Bush would say).
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robbedvoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 03:25 PM
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20. Both leading contenders are senators - equaly responsible on it
At least one of them brings his name into the debate. Small favor, I know, but beggars can't be choosers! (I kid, I am a chooser - and undecided one - but attacking Bush could sway me)
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mac2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-20-08 12:19 PM
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21. We keep voting and supporting the "lesser of two evils"
Isn't this keeping us in the bad situation we see ourselves in today? The same old, same ole, elite few win with their wars and globalization...robbery and destruction?
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MadBadger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 11:59 AM
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18. I'm pretty sure that was incredible sarcasm.
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midnight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 12:10 PM
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19. You are preaching to the choir!!!!!!!
That is why John gets my vote.
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TankLV Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-20-08 02:04 PM
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22. I noticed that GLARING "fact" also...
one of the main reasons I've supported her, even there are some positions she's taken that I don't like...

There are more that Obama has taken that I don't like.
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