Adelante
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Sat Jan-19-08 07:24 PM
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Bill Clinton rallied caucus goers inside 5 Vegas precincts? |
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Donna Brazille just said this on CNN. Can this be legal? He doesn't live in Nevada. So how can he have participated in this way? Anybody know? A DUer from Minnesota said candidates have been known to do this at caucuses, so maybe.
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Sat Jan-19-08 07:25 PM
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1. I'm sure big dog knows the rules. |
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Sat Jan-19-08 07:28 PM
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I am tired of the "big dog" . I am tired of the nickname. |
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I am tired of how involved he is. It is wrong for a former president to be so involved, attacking others, hanging with the Bush Family.
It is just wrong.
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Sat Jan-19-08 07:35 PM
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19. doesn't a former president in America become a regular citizen again or is he some kind of king |
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Edited on Sat Jan-19-08 07:35 PM by Proud2BAmurkin
serious question.
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Sat Jan-19-08 08:07 PM
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25. It is a matter of proper behavior. |
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It is wrong for him to be using his influence accusing people of tampering and such. He should NOT be in polling places, he is way too involved.
He should NOT be driving around NV with James Carville. By doing that he says to the rest of us he is being in our face.
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Sat Jan-19-08 07:27 PM
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2. He is a private citizen--can rally all he wants as can others. |
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Sat Jan-19-08 07:27 PM
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5. He wouldn't have to be a Nevada resident? |
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Sat Jan-19-08 07:28 PM
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8. all campaigns bring in who they want/can afford. |
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Sat Jan-19-08 07:28 PM
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7. Former President is a private citizen? Then I want my |
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Secret service back! :eyes:
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Sat Jan-19-08 07:27 PM
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i think because it's a caucus it might be allowed |
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Sat Jan-19-08 07:27 PM
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3. Why would it be illegal? He's a regular citizen now. |
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To rally for a candidate is what supporters do! Just because he happens to be a former Prez doesn't mean a damn thing.
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Adelante
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Sat Jan-19-08 07:30 PM
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10. Because he's not a Nevada resident |
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I've only voted in primaries where you can't even carry a sign. It seems strange to me that somebody from another state can just go into a caucus and electioneer.
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Sat Jan-19-08 07:41 PM
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23. I 've never been to a caucus either, but I understand there are |
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a lot of speeches made by supporters of the different candidates. I honestly don't know if you have to be a resident to speak there, but somehow I doubt it.
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Sat Jan-19-08 07:27 PM
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4. Spouses of candidates can observe caucuses, yes. |
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Edited on Sat Jan-19-08 07:27 PM by VolcanoJen
As can local or statewide elected officials.
Credentialed caucus watchers of the campaigns may also attend to observe, as can credentialed members of the press. In Nevada, they adjusted the rules so campaigns could send 10 representatives instead of the orignal, agreed-upon 2 to each caucus.
I imagine Bill was a credentialed caucus attendee and that his attendance was legitimate. I haven't heard any reports of him actually organizing or participating in the caucus, which would seem quite inappropriate.
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Sat Jan-19-08 07:27 PM
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Sat Jan-19-08 07:29 PM
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I don't think he was in the room, unless I am mistaken.
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Sat Jan-19-08 07:31 PM
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12. Inside the room is how I heard it nt |
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Sat Jan-19-08 07:33 PM
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15. Inside the Hotel, not the room itself |
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Sat Jan-19-08 07:30 PM
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11. Did they clone him or something?? nt |
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Sat Jan-19-08 07:32 PM
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13. I guess he went from one to another along the Strip nt |
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Sat Jan-19-08 07:34 PM
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17. Then he couldn't have been inside the rooms - |
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they shut the doors and told us NOBODY could leave, even to pee.
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Sat Jan-19-08 07:34 PM
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18. Schmoozing, his best event! nt |
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Sat Jan-19-08 07:37 PM
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22. Clinton came to Las Vegas and Stripped?!? Damn, I miss everything!!! |
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Sat Jan-19-08 07:32 PM
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14. This was legal and legit in Iowa... |
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Edited on Sat Jan-19-08 07:34 PM by TwoSparkles
I'm not sure if the caucus rules are the same for Iowa and NV, but I know that many Iowans were sent to NV--to help NV newbies learn the procedure.
So, NV might be the same as Iowa.
Obama showed up in my precinct, in Iowa. He was there, inside the door of our local high school greeting people and generating excitement. It was really cool.
I believe it's ok if supporters, or the candidates themselves, make appearances at the caucuses. John Kerry's brother showed up at my caucus site in 04--to do a little speech in support of his brother.
I'm sure Bill just popped in to several caucus sites, to drum up support and I'm almost positive that it's legal and appropriate.
I actually think this is a great PR tactic to do this! Caucuses are so fun and spirited. There's so much conversation and discussion happening and everyone is so proud to visibly support their candidate. I'm betting Clinton went inside the caucus sites and did his thing and left before voting commenced. It's been reported that he visited several precincts, so he most likely didn't stay after the doors were officially closed.
Bill Clinton's appearances were totally in line with the tone of a caucus.
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Sat Jan-19-08 07:34 PM
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16. Thank you for the explanation |
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I was taken aback when I heard it, but if it's the norm in caucus states, it is what it is.
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Sat Jan-19-08 07:36 PM
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20. Yeah, a caucus is pretty rolicking... |
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...it's a lot different than "voting".
I think candidates, or any sort of campaigning is against the law, near the voting sites.
Caucuses are entirely different. We gave speeches, we had people standing on chairs and lobbying the entire room for their candidate.
Other candidate camps were trying to lure our people away--into other camps. It's just good, clean, spirited fun---democracy in action.
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Sat Jan-19-08 07:36 PM
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21. Hilary has had very good relationships with the Hispanic Community |
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Sat Jan-19-08 07:43 PM
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24. I don't question that nt |
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