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TheWraith Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-20-08 12:40 PM
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"What I am opposed to is a dumb war. What I am opposed to is a rash war."
October 26th, 2002:

Good afternoon. Let me begin by saying that although this has been billed as an anti-war rally, I stand before you as someone who is not opposed to war in all circumstances.

The Civil War was one of the bloodiest in history, and yet it was only through the crucible of the sword, the sacrifice of multitudes, that we could begin to perfect this union, and drive the scourge of slavery from our soil. I don’t oppose all wars.

My grandfather signed up for a war the day after Pearl Harbor was bombed, fought in Patton’s army. He saw the dead and dying across the fields of Europe; he heard the stories of fellow troops who first entered Auschwitz and Treblinka. He fought in the name of a larger freedom, part of that arsenal of democracy that triumphed over evil, and he did not fight in vain.

I don’t oppose all wars.

After September 11th, after witnessing the carnage and destruction, the dust and the tears, I supported this Administration’s pledge to hunt down and root out those who would slaughter innocents in the name of intolerance, and I would willingly take up arms myself to prevent such a tragedy from happening again.

I don’t oppose all wars. And I know that in this crowd today, there is no shortage of patriots, or of patriotism. What I am opposed to is a dumb war. What I am opposed to is a rash war. What I am opposed to is the cynical attempt by Richard Perle and Paul Wolfowitz and other arm-chair, weekend warriors in this Administration to shove their own ideological agendas down our throats, irrespective of the costs in lives lost and in hardships borne.

What I am opposed to is the attempt by political hacks like Karl Rove to distract us from a rise in the uninsured, a rise in the poverty rate, a drop in the median income – to distract us from corporate scandals and a stock market that has just gone through the worst month since the Great Depression.

That’s what I’m opposed to. A dumb war. A rash war. A war based not on reason but on passion, not on principle but on politics.

Now let me be clear – I suffer no illusions about Saddam Hussein. He is a brutal man. A ruthless man. A man who butchers his own people to secure his own power. He has repeatedly defied UN resolutions, thwarted UN inspection teams, developed chemical and biological weapons, and coveted nuclear capacity.

He’s a bad guy. The world, and the Iraqi people, would be better off without him.

But I also know that Saddam poses no imminent and direct threat to the United States, or to his neighbors, that the Iraqi economy is in shambles, that the Iraqi military a fraction of its former strength,
and that in concert with the international community he can be contained until, in the way of all petty dictators, he falls away into the dustbin of history.

I know that even a successful war against Iraq will require a US occupation of undetermined length, at undetermined cost, with undetermined consequences. I know that an invasion of Iraq without a clear rationale and without strong international support will only fan the flames of the Middle East, and encourage the worst, rather than best, impulses of the Arab world, and strengthen the recruitment arm of al-Qaeda.

I am not opposed to all wars. I’m opposed to dumb wars.

So for those of us who seek a more just and secure world for our children, let us send a clear message to the president today. You want a fight, President Bush? Let’s finish the fight with Bin Laden and al-Qaeda, through effective, coordinated intelligence, and a shutting down of the financial networks that support terrorism, and a homeland security program that involves more than color-coded warnings.

You want a fight, President Bush? Let’s fight to make sure that the UN inspectors can do their work, and that we vigorously enforce a non-proliferation treaty, and that former enemies and current allies like Russia safeguard and ultimately eliminate their stores of nuclear material, and that nations like Pakistan and India never use the terrible weapons already in their possession, and that the arms merchants in our own country stop feeding the countless wars that rage across the globe.

You want a fight, President Bush? Let’s fight to make sure our so-called allies in the Middle East, the Saudis and the Egyptians, stop oppressing their own people, and suppressing dissent, and tolerating corruption and inequality, and mismanaging their economies so that their youth grow up without education, without prospects, without hope, the ready recruits of terrorist cells.

You want a fight, President Bush? Let’s fight to wean ourselves off Middle East oil, through an energy policy that doesn’t simply serve the interests of Exxon and Mobil.

Those are the battles that we need to fight. Those are the battles that we willingly join. The battles against ignorance and intolerance. Corruption and greed. Poverty and despair.

The consequences of war are dire, the sacrifices immeasurable. We may have occasion in our lifetime to once again rise up in defense of our freedom, and pay the wages of war. But we ought not – we will not – travel down that hellish path blindly. Nor should we allow those who would march off and pay the ultimate sacrifice, who would prove the full measure of devotion with their blood, to make such an awful sacrifice in vain.

http://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Barack_Obama's_Iraq_Speech

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Wouldn't it be nice to have a president who knows what the right thing to do is from the beginning?
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maddiejoan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-20-08 12:42 PM
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1. I believe Miss Jackson has this to say---
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MannyGoldstein Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-20-08 12:51 PM
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2. Most Democrats in Congress Voted Against The War
The single most important decision in decades. And most Democrats in Congress got it right - they voted against the war.

Those who voted for the war showed an astonishing lack of judgment and character.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-20-08 12:54 PM
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3. Thanks, Wraith...of course
the shillarys don't care cause they like stupid wars but this is one of the big reasons I support Obama.
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mtnsnake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-20-08 12:55 PM
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4. "Watch me while I vote for every bill to fund and enable this dumb war."
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Perky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-20-08 01:01 PM
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5. As did Hillary What is you point?
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MannyGoldstein Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-20-08 01:03 PM
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6. Funding An Ongoing War Is A Much Different Decision Than Starting A War
But of course you know that.
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mtnsnake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-20-08 01:09 PM
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8. Yeah, it's worse. That's why Obama is such a hypocrite to fund a war he claims is a dumb one
Anyone who thinks poorly of the Iraq War is the biggest hypocrite in the land if they vote to fund it each and every time a funding bill pops up.

Anyone with a brain knows Obama would have voted for the IWR, had he been a US Senator at the time. He doesn't fool anyone.
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TheWraith Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-20-08 05:30 PM
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10. By your logic, Hillary must think the war is a great idea, since she voted more funding than Obama.
Edited on Sun Jan-20-08 05:31 PM by TheWraith
How about you sit down if you don't have anything to offer other than brainless attacks?
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no name no slogan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-20-08 01:04 PM
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7. As a pacifist, I am opposed to ALL war
that makes this decision rather easy, then.
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Hissyspit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-20-08 06:03 PM
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15. What a radical idea!
... that used to be the stance of almost EVERYONE on D.U.

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TheWraith Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-20-08 05:07 PM
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9. Giving this a kick for the evening crowd. NT
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peoli Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-20-08 05:39 PM
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11. A speech that will go down in Barack history
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featherman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-20-08 05:55 PM
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12. Good to keep this in mind
And kudos to the brave Democratic Senators then serving that stood up for what was right and voted AGAINST giving this war mongering administration the okay to rain death and destruction on a nation and people that had never done anything to deserve it. When calculated misinformation and fear-mongering ruled the day and this was not a popular stand.

Shame on the Democratic Senators and Representatives who violated every decency and even common sense to vote for an illegal invasion against the UN Charter and nearly universal world opinion. Shame on those who voted for war out of cowardice and political expediency.

You know who you are.
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OzarkDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-20-08 05:57 PM
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13. $10 BILLION EVERY MONTH
How does Obama or Clinton propose to pay for that and still fix the economy?
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-20-08 05:59 PM
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14. Perle, Wolfowitz and their "ideological agenda"
I would like someone to tell me who else, of significance, named Perle and Wolfowitz in their anti-war speeches in 2002. That's what impresses me. He didn't get it a litle bit right, he got it 100% right.
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Barack_America Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-20-08 06:12 PM
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16. Her so-called "experience" didn't lead Hillary to make the right call on this one...
And yet Obama, a "part-time" Senator from Illinois, calls it perfectly.

Pardon me, but if Hillary's judgment is an example of what is gained from decades of Washington "experience", then I've no use for it.
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angie_love Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-20-08 06:15 PM
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17. inspiring.
He showed incredible foresight with this speech, as most people say he was "dead on". Not even Hillary supporters can deny that. They just keep bringing up the 'why did he fund it then?'. Well since we were already in iraq, he wasn't going to deny the troops the supplies they needed. The best argument they can come up with is that he is as bad as Hillary, only Hillary is much much worse. Love how they try to turn it around, but sorry, I keep coming back to this speech and it proves that she was wrong on this one, he was right.
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Barack_America Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-20-08 06:48 PM
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18. I feel the same. And I keep trying to explain this to people...
but, you're right, they simply will not hear it.

Just like their willful ignorance of Hillary's electability issues.

I'm done trying.
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