sjdnb
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Sun Jan-20-08 09:01 PM
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Why do the media annointed top two Dems seem hell-bent on |
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tearing the party apart?
Lots of folks are complaining about posts on DU by their supporters, but after reading several news items, it seems to me the candidates and their official representatives, are causing much of this/doing significantly more damage by their innuendo/exaggeration and sniping/whining/spinning.
This SHOULD be the year we can elect a President who can make the American Dream possible again for hard working Americans, who can restore our dignity and honor in the world, who can restore our civil liberties, justice, and accountability in government. But, instead, this is beginning to look like a middle school pissing contest between two candidates unable or unwilling to put their egos aside for the greater good.
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Sun Jan-20-08 09:02 PM
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1. Obama is trying to bring us together. |
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Edited on Sun Jan-20-08 09:03 PM by Kittycat
I don't see him trying to tear us apart, but apparently some view unity as division. So sad :(
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Sun Jan-20-08 09:04 PM
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2. gather round the fire every one for Kumbyah |
Kittycat
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Sun Jan-20-08 09:10 PM
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7. Since when is the democratic party against hope, unity, peace, optimism - carrying for our neighbors |
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Sun Jan-20-08 09:22 PM
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10. How dare they run against the Clintons!!! |
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That's what it is really about.
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sjdnb
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Sun Jan-20-08 09:07 PM
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5. Then, explain this ... |
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http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=102x3148906And, numerous other similar examples from both the Obama and Hillary camps. Accusations about voter intimidation, ballot box tampering, racial prejudice/racism, sexism, caucus manipulation, and on and on. The insults hurled from both sides are not ingratiating either candidate to anyone - Dem or Ind.
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Sun Jan-20-08 09:09 PM
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6. Seems to me he's trying to unite with Republicans... |
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Edited on Sun Jan-20-08 09:11 PM by polichick
He certainly hasn't been trying to unite with the gays, boomers or liberals of our own party.
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Sun Jan-20-08 10:51 PM
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18. Guess you missed his speech today :) |
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Too bad, it was great - very unifying, very encompassing.
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Mon Jan-21-08 12:06 AM
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19. Was he "unifying" and "encompassing" enough to apologize to... |
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...the Democratic gays, boomers and liberals he has so arrogantly dissed ~ or was it just a whole lot more pretty words?
(Let me guess.)
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Sun Jan-20-08 09:04 PM
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3. We need a candidate who has their humanity intact. Whether large or small, although the |
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bigger the better, but we ARE talking politics.
MKJ
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Sun Jan-20-08 09:14 PM
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8. Open Yer Eyes Folks The Candidate ya'll Are Look'n Fer IS ... John Edwards! |
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No Unit'n com'n out of HillBill Or Obey! Which should be good fer young dynamic John Edwards, wife Elizabeth and their beautiful family. :)
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Sun Jan-20-08 09:20 PM
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9. You are to the Edwards campaign as "The R's will unite" is to Hillary's |
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Edited on Sun Jan-20-08 09:22 PM by BleedingHeartPatriot
:hi: MKJ
on edit, improved my metaphor.
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Sun Jan-20-08 09:06 PM
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4. the dems will never be the same |
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it seems as if every election we splinter a little more.
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Sun Jan-20-08 09:22 PM
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11. It seems ever since Jimmy Carter, who |
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in my opinion, tried to bring back the kind of populist ideas, integrity, accountability, and justice that Robert Kennedy stood for, but was undermined by greed/self interests and political operatives who were much more sophisticated than he was, the party has never fully recovered.
Carter could not be Kennedy. Clinton was kind of Carter, kind of Reagan - better than some, but not as good as he might have been. There were lots of reasons for it -- but, now, for our principles and the future of the country to be threatened by media created and candidate reinforced BS is unacceptable.
I'm an Edwards supporter who wished Gore had run. And, I become more concerned with each passing day what the future holds, for myself and my hubby, as well as our children, and the country's/world's children -- because it appears to me, none of these politicians TRULY appreciates how important this election is not only to our country (the PEOPLE of the country), but to the world (the PEOPLE of the world).
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Sun Jan-20-08 09:23 PM
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12. Add Bloomberg + water and... indeed... it may be a long recovery |
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Sun Jan-20-08 09:36 PM
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13. Each wants to win the nomination. nt |
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Sun Jan-20-08 09:37 PM
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14. Well, if winning the nomination is more important than what is doing what is RIGHT |
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for the American people (i.e., not tearing us apart over political BS) neither one deserves the nomination.
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Sun Jan-20-08 09:40 PM
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15. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I think running for nominee is a contest of sorts?? nt |
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Sun Jan-20-08 10:21 PM
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17. Or, for some, a mission ... |
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Edited on Sun Jan-20-08 10:24 PM by sjdnb
to do the best for the country, citizens, and world that they can ... but, then again, I'm just supporting who I believe will best serve the common good ... but, of course, for some, it's just a popularity contest.
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Sun Jan-20-08 10:11 PM
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16. Both want this job for themselves |
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not because they would be best for the country. Very simple. Both are guilty of dirty tricks.
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It isn't helping the party at all, but their "ego" trip is to win at all costs, and to hell with everything else!
Another thing is they don't have to really talk about the issues, they can just attack each other and hope nobody notices they don't really have any kind of a "plan" to make the changes this country really needs.
We do have one candidate that wants to change this country, and who has a "real" plan to do so. Sadly he gets rejected by the media in favor of the Obama Clinton wars! If the people hear Edwwards and his message they will see that he is the one we need in D.C.! Clinton and Obama can fight till they are blue in the face, they still won't have a real plan to change things!:spank:
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