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OneGrassRoot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-22-08 09:59 PM Original message |
For those who say Edwards' MESSAGE doesn't resonate... |
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rwheeler31 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-22-08 10:09 PM Response to Original message |
1. It is powerful it makes the corporate elite circle the wagons. |
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OneGrassRoot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-22-08 10:16 PM Response to Reply #1 |
5. Yes it does. As proven by Tom Donahue of the Chamber of Commerce. n/t |
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jsamuel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-22-08 10:12 PM Response to Original message |
2. Edwards' message resonates every time Clinton and Obama use it. |
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OneGrassRoot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-22-08 10:15 PM Response to Reply #2 |
4. Snap! Again. lol n/t |
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K Gardner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-22-08 10:15 PM Response to Original message |
3. That's just it.. I *do* think it resonated. Just look at how ALL the other candidates, Dem and |
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OneGrassRoot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-22-08 10:26 PM Response to Reply #3 |
8. Exactly.... |
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K Gardner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-22-08 10:36 PM Response to Reply #8 |
18. Well, that's just it. I don't really think that people, in general, dismiss *us* |
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OneGrassRoot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-22-08 10:40 PM Response to Reply #18 |
22. I should have specified .... |
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2rth2pwr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-22-08 11:11 PM Response to Reply #18 |
32. Well, you do sound a little brainwashed. nt |
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ChiciB1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-22-08 11:46 PM Response to Reply #3 |
41. Many Of Us Here Have Been Saying This For Months & Months... |
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OneGrassRoot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-22-08 11:52 PM Response to Reply #41 |
43. Believe me, I know... (it's commercial break for Letterman...lol) |
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The Traveler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-22-08 10:19 PM Response to Original message |
6. The myth of supply side economics |
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water (504 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-22-08 10:28 PM Response to Reply #6 |
9. In many cases, the middle class owns the corporations. |
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The Traveler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-22-08 10:38 PM Response to Reply #9 |
21. In what sense? |
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water (504 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-22-08 11:45 PM Response to Reply #21 |
40. To be honest, I don't really understand what you are getting at (it's my fault). |
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The Traveler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-23-08 12:53 AM Response to Reply #40 |
50. To be honest, it is not your fault |
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water (504 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-23-08 01:04 AM Response to Reply #50 |
51. Ah, I agree then. |
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OneGrassRoot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-22-08 10:29 PM Response to Reply #6 |
10. Glad you got to the "on edit"....lol. Thanks for the thoughtful response. n/t |
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catnhatnh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-23-08 12:06 AM Response to Reply #6 |
48. Drive by reply.... |
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Yael (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-22-08 10:20 PM Response to Original message |
7. He is proposing real, actual, actionable change. |
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OneGrassRoot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-22-08 10:37 PM Response to Reply #7 |
19. You and I certainly agree about the media's influence here. |
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Occam Bandage (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-22-08 10:29 PM Response to Original message |
11. Well, looking at the exit polling, |
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OneGrassRoot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-22-08 10:31 PM Response to Reply #11 |
13. You have no thoughts as to why the MESSAGE didn't resonate? |
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Occam Bandage (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-22-08 10:34 PM Response to Reply #13 |
15. I'm not saying why. |
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rurallib (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-22-08 10:35 PM Response to Reply #11 |
16. In Iowa those most involved with the party went with Edwards |
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OneGrassRoot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-22-08 10:40 PM Response to Reply #16 |
23. Bingo. Thanks for responding. n/t |
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Milo_Bloom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-22-08 10:30 PM Response to Original message |
12. Its not the MESSAGE it is the MESSENGER! |
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OneGrassRoot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-22-08 10:32 PM Response to Reply #12 |
14. I addressed that opinion in my OP. My question was for those... |
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Occam Bandage (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-22-08 10:35 PM Response to Reply #14 |
17. The message itself may have not resonated because of the failures of the messenger. |
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depakid (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-22-08 10:38 PM Response to Original message |
20. It;s not the message |
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stravu9 (945 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-22-08 10:42 PM Response to Original message |
24. It would resonate if they worked with/for the homeless, mentally ill, uninsured, |
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OneGrassRoot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-22-08 10:44 PM Response to Original message |
25. Good grief, people...please focus. I said in the OP ... |
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Occam Bandage (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-22-08 10:45 PM Response to Reply #25 |
26. Again, I'm not going to speculate on the reasons it didn't. |
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OneGrassRoot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-22-08 10:46 PM Response to Reply #26 |
27. Okay, but that was my specific question here. Thanks. n/t |
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Occam Bandage (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-22-08 10:48 PM Response to Reply #27 |
28. It sounds like you're asking us to back up the claim the message, and not the man, didn't resonate. |
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OneGrassRoot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-22-08 10:52 PM Response to Reply #28 |
29. Remember, now, I am of small mind - and it's getting late....lol |
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2rth2pwr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-22-08 11:28 PM Response to Reply #25 |
36. His message was things are horrible for people and it's the corporations |
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OneGrassRoot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-22-08 11:39 PM Response to Reply #36 |
38. Thanks for responding - |
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2rth2pwr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-22-08 11:55 PM Response to Reply #38 |
45. Politicians generally poll below used car salspeople on trust. |
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OneGrassRoot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-23-08 12:00 AM Response to Reply #45 |
47. I certainly don't dispute that at all....lol |
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nancyharris (637 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-22-08 11:02 PM Response to Original message |
30. The liberal populist message |
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OneGrassRoot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-22-08 11:03 PM Response to Reply #30 |
31. And what about the modern-day populist message of which John speaks... |
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nancyharris (637 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-22-08 11:22 PM Response to Reply #31 |
33. Some of it is very realistic. |
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OneGrassRoot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-22-08 11:25 PM Response to Reply #33 |
34. Thank you for replying. Two things: |
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nancyharris (637 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-22-08 11:47 PM Response to Reply #34 |
42. Generally |
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OneGrassRoot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-22-08 11:57 PM Response to Reply #42 |
46. Thank you again... |
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nancyharris (637 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-23-08 12:14 AM Response to Reply #46 |
49. While it is true |
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unapatriciated (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-22-08 11:26 PM Response to Original message |
35. It's because their shoes are not tight yet. |
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OneGrassRoot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-22-08 11:30 PM Response to Reply #35 |
37. I've never heard that expression; it's one to remember. |
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unapatriciated (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-22-08 11:40 PM Response to Reply #37 |
39. I agree the message has been shut out by the main stream media |
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Skwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-22-08 11:53 PM Response to Original message |
44. He doesn't come across as authentic that is why his message doesn't |
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