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Wed Jan-23-08 07:47 AM
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Why does Rupert Murdoch (Fox) support Hillary Clinton? |
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Rupert Murdoch, who owns Fox news, just loves Hillary Clinton according to this CBS article. http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2006/05/09/politics/main1600694.shtmlWhy would that be?
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Wed Jan-23-08 07:50 AM
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1. Can you read? The answer is right in your linked May '06 "news" story: |
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Edited on Wed Jan-23-08 08:16 AM by MethuenProgressive
"They have a respectful and cordial relationship. He has respect for the work she has done on behalf of New York. I wouldn't say it was illustrative of a close ongoing relationship. It is not like they are dining out together."
Fucking flame bait OP.
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Wed Jan-23-08 07:54 AM
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4. Just answer the question please, cursing isn't necessary. Fox wants Hillary for a reason. |
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Wed Jan-23-08 07:56 AM
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8. Can you read, flamebaiter? The answer is in your own old May 2006 link. |
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Edited on Wed Jan-23-08 08:17 AM by MethuenProgressive
Fucking flame bait OP.
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Wed Jan-23-08 07:58 AM
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Wed Jan-23-08 08:07 AM
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16. Why does mobster slumlord Antoni "Tony" Resko support Barrack Hussein Obama? |
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Should I pretend, as does the flamebaiting OPers, that this subject line is anything less than flamebait? FNGs and their fucking flamebait threads.
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Wed Jan-23-08 08:12 AM
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20. Rezko's a repuke scam. Check the indictment, Fitzgerald and St. Eves will discredit Obama for GE |
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GE has a lot of money to lose, if Obama becomes president and America pulls out of Iraq.
GE is also NBC, by the way.
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Wed Jan-23-08 08:13 AM
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21. And you're still afraid of answering the question, I guess. |
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Wed Jan-23-08 08:15 AM
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23. Can you read? The answer is still in your own link. Here, I'll type it out slowly just for you: |
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"They have a respectful and cordial relationship. He has respect for the work she has done on behalf of New York. I wouldn't say it was illustrative of a close ongoing relationship. It is not like they are dining out together."
Fucking flame bait OP.
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Wed Jan-23-08 08:19 AM
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27. Oh okay, so their cordial relationship extends to money, but has nothing to do with his media empire |
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Wed Jan-23-08 08:16 AM
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24. You shouldn't pretend that you're morally offended by it. |
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... since you engage in the same thing all the damn time. Hence, pot, kettle.
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Wed Jan-23-08 08:25 AM
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33. Retract that immediately. |
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Wed Jan-23-08 07:57 AM
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10. HE DOES NOT! ATTACKS HER DAILY! |
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Wed Jan-23-08 08:00 AM
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13. Then why did he give her money? Check the source. |
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Wed Jan-23-08 07:51 AM
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2. My Australian friend says that when Murdoch decides on a candidate, |
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that candidate usually wins, at least in Australia (where Murdoch controls a large proportion of the media market). He's betting that Hillary will be the next POTUS, and will be a little, um, cozy with Murdoch.
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Wed Jan-23-08 07:56 AM
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9. Hillary won also when he was all against her in 2000. His paper still attacks her |
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daily in NYC, so their mythical "support" is very questionable.
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Wed Jan-23-08 08:06 AM
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If Murdoch is attacking Hillary in NYC newspapers, who does he seem to be supporting?
This should make for some interesting conversation material the next time I see my Aussie friend.
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Wed Jan-23-08 08:28 AM
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35. Well, here's another link showing the support. |
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Well, here's another link showing the support. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2007/07/16/hillary-clinton-shuns-fox_n_56495.htmlThe support is real. What do you make of it?
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Wed Jan-23-08 08:08 AM
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17. Potus, I don't follow. Is that like a Patsy or something? |
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I mean, do you think he's setting her up for a fall? Or does he really want her in office for some reason?
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Wed Jan-23-08 08:11 AM
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19. POTUS= President of the United States |
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Wed Jan-23-08 08:15 AM
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22. POTUS, Lol. Yeah, I guess you're right. I wonder how cozy Murdoch and Hillary will be.... |
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Wed Jan-23-08 07:53 AM
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3. Ratings! Ratings! Ratings! |
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Wed Jan-23-08 07:55 AM
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7. So Murdoch's exploiting her divisiveness for ratings? Yeah, that follows.... |
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Though I think it might run deeper than all that.
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Wed Jan-23-08 08:35 AM
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38. What would BillO, Sean, Ann et al have to talk about otherwise? |
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They can get the most traction from her.
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Wed Jan-23-08 08:40 AM
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40. Yeah, that way all of us can stay angry all of the time. Either that or.... |
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... he's betting that Democrats like me will--out of disgust--vote for someone like Kucinich instead. And we'll end up with a repuke in office. Either way, Murdoch wins with Hillary.
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Wed Jan-23-08 07:54 AM
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5. Some 9/11 Truthers take it as proof that the Democrats and Republicans are secretly in league. |
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Edited on Wed Jan-23-08 07:55 AM by Perry Logan
It's a familiar meme around here--Hillary and Rupert are carelessly revealing the secret conspiracy, but no one can figure this out except the conspiracy guys. Life is a comic book.
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Wed Jan-23-08 07:59 AM
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12. Secretly? Take a look at opensecrets.org, and it no longer looks like much of a secret. |
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They gave the Republicans money in 2000 and 2004, while giving a little less to the Democratic Party. Now they're giving more to the Democratic Party.
The biggest contributors are the same financial lending institutions that control Wall Street. This makes me think that Hillary is just a sideshow.
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Wed Jan-23-08 07:55 AM
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6. Have you looked at NY Post lately? I didn't think so. |
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Wed Jan-23-08 08:01 AM
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Why did Murdoch give her money? Check the source. |
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Wed Jan-23-08 08:10 AM
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18. Rupert wants to cover all bases - and suspects his usual attacks will fail again |
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Edited on Wed Jan-23-08 08:16 AM by robbedvoter
- he's used to it - he failed twice already. But he helped Ghouliani more - money AND praise. He wants a GOP-er to win and will do his best for that.
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Wed Jan-23-08 08:17 AM
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26. Okay, that's a bit more credible. Murdoch's covering his bases. Only what does that mean? |
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Wed Jan-23-08 08:16 AM
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He thinks he can fool us into thinking that he is fair and balanced.
Murdoch doesn't care about politics or parties. He cares about money and ratings. He thinks he can get us to watch Fox News if he supports our candidates.
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Wed Jan-23-08 08:21 AM
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30. Well, if that were the case, why isn't this news available on Fox television? |
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I don't think this logic follows.
Nice try, though.
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Wed Jan-23-08 08:01 AM
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14. You're right. It's a secret...but everyone knows about it. Sometimes conspiracy guys confuse me. |
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For example, they're always talking about "secret organizations" that everybody knows about.
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Wed Jan-23-08 08:20 AM
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29. Yes...it's kind of funny. |
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All that secret government, Illuminata, Bildeberger stuff is suppose to be a big conspiracy going back to Babylon, but it's all there on You Tube. Although I've often thought that maybe Barbara Olsen and Ken Lay are living the good life on Mars....LOL!!
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Wed Jan-23-08 08:20 AM
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28. when did he give to her presidential campaign? Link? |
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You cite to an article that indicates murdoch supported clinton's re-election as Senator because he felt she had done a good job representing NY. Do you have a link for a contribution from him to her presidential campaign, because none shows up on opensecrets.
What does show up on opensecrets are, among other things, contributions from Peter Chernin, News Corps president and ceo, to the presidential campaigns of clinton, obama and dodd. Not that surprising -- its pretty common for folks at this level to cover their bases.
Now, are you going to acknowledge that your question has been answered or do you still enjoy playing the baseless innuendo game.
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Wed Jan-23-08 08:25 AM
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Wed Jan-23-08 08:28 AM
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36. Mr. Murdoch doesn't even try to hide or deny why he does what he does: |
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Edited on Wed Jan-23-08 08:52 AM by JTFrog
His response when asked if there was any agenda he wants to shape: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JF9HpuZm6-g*edit link*
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Wed Jan-23-08 08:30 AM
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37. Sorry, I've got a bad link there. What's the response? |
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Wed Jan-23-08 08:37 AM
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He basically said that if you're in the media business and you care about what's going on in the world then you are going to want to make a difference through your opinions. He says he believes that can't change the world completely but it can shape the agenda. He then admits he tried to shape public opinion on Iraq and that they supported the Bush agenda.
This was at the World Economic Forum.
*edit - fixed the link above*
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Wed Jan-23-08 08:45 AM
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41. Sounds like he's betting on Hillary to continue the war in Iraq. Fox is in the Middle East. |
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Or at least he's in Turkey. I'm pretty sure he's elsewhere out here as well. Yeah, that's logical. At least he's straitforward about his Napolean syndrome.
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