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EffieBlack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-24-08 11:35 PM Original message |
STOP IT STOP IT STOP IT! PLEASE stop tearing each other apart over who played the race card first!!! |
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Kurt_and_Hunter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-24-08 11:40 PM Response to Original message |
1. Amen to that. It hurts Hillary and it hurts Barack, so why don't people ask who it helps? |
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avaistheone1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-24-08 11:56 PM Response to Reply #1 |
6. Ditto. If this continues it's a no win for everyone except the media |
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EffieBlack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-24-08 11:57 PM Response to Reply #6 |
7. except the media and the Republicans |
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Metric System (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-24-08 11:45 PM Response to Original message |
2. I think you're right in many ways. |
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EffieBlack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-24-08 11:52 PM Response to Reply #2 |
4. Thanks for posting that: |
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DJ13 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-24-08 11:48 PM Response to Original message |
3. The Party, and Hillary herself, would be better off if Bill stopped campaigning |
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EffieBlack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-24-08 11:54 PM Response to Reply #3 |
5. This isn't about Bill. This is about the media, which is exploiting race |
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DJ13 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-25-08 12:00 AM Response to Reply #5 |
8. "This isn't about Bill. This is about the media, which is exploiting race" |
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EffieBlack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-25-08 12:05 AM Response to Reply #8 |
11. If you think the media "was content to leave race out of it" until now, you have NOT been paying |
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Metric System (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-25-08 12:08 AM Response to Reply #8 |
12. "Was the media talking about race in Iowa? Yes. |
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EffieBlack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-25-08 12:43 AM Response to Reply #12 |
19. And before that they made a big deal about whether a largely white state WOULD vote for |
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bellasgrams (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-25-08 12:16 AM Response to Reply #3 |
14. In your dreams |
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DemCam (911 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-25-08 12:00 AM Response to Original message |
9. Oh dear me...yes yes YES |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-25-08 12:02 AM Response to Original message |
10. The Clintons did introduce race into the discussion |
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jackson_dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-25-08 12:12 AM Response to Reply #10 |
13. Michelle Obama did it first in November |
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emilyg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-25-08 12:29 AM Response to Reply #13 |
15. Yes she did. |
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EffieBlack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-25-08 12:41 AM Response to Reply #13 |
17. She did NOT raise it - she answered a QUESTION posed to her about black voters |
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jackson_dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-25-08 12:43 AM Response to Reply #17 |
18. And played the race card in her response |
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EffieBlack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-25-08 12:48 AM Response to Reply #18 |
22. That's bullshit |
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jackson_dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-25-08 12:49 AM Response to Reply #22 |
24. She basically said blacks should "wake up" and vote for Obama because he is black |
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EffieBlack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-25-08 12:58 AM Response to Reply #24 |
27. That's not what she said. But accuracy and truth isn't your strong suit when it comes to |
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jackson_dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-25-08 01:10 AM Response to Reply #27 |
31. No one ever directly makes a racial appeal |
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LittleClarkie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-25-08 12:50 AM Response to Reply #22 |
26. Don't get sucked in Effie |
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EffieBlack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-25-08 12:59 AM Response to Reply #26 |
28. You're right |
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EffieBlack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-25-08 12:38 AM Response to Reply #10 |
16. If you think that the discussion of race in this campaign began with Shaheen or Kerrey or Cuomo |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-25-08 01:17 AM Response to Reply #16 |
33. That is not introducing race in a negative manner |
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VotesForWomen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-25-08 01:16 AM Response to Reply #10 |
32. b.s. nt |
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LittleClarkie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-25-08 12:43 AM Response to Original message |
20. Alittle like a grade school playground, isn't it |
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Catherine Vincent (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-25-08 12:43 AM Response to Original message |
21. I agree. |
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EffieBlack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-25-08 12:49 AM Response to Reply #21 |
23. Yes it was. But you're not helping the situation . . . |
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jzodda (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-25-08 12:50 AM Response to Original message |
25. The media loves it and so do Repbublicans |
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EffieBlack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-25-08 01:06 AM Response to Reply #25 |
30. You are dead on! |
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dorkulon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-25-08 01:02 AM Response to Original message |
29. "You're tearing me apart!" |
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