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Fri Jan-25-08 04:19 PM
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There is no love lost between Howard Dean and the Clintons, is there? |
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It seems like they're riding right over what the DNC has decided as if it meant nothing. Would they be doing that if it were McAuliffe still in charge. I think not.
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Fri Jan-25-08 04:21 PM
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1. There is a battle going on in the Dem Party over its soul. |
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Fri Jan-25-08 04:25 PM
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because the other side is only out for themselves.
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Fri Jan-25-08 04:25 PM
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6. I'll always be on Dean's side. |
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Fri Jan-25-08 04:52 PM
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18. So am I. Dean had and has great ideas - the 50 state strategy for one |
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despite what Obama says, dems do have ideas!
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Fri Jan-25-08 05:25 PM
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28. You can't help yourself, |
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what has Obama has to do with this?
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Fri Jan-25-08 05:45 PM
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32. You're right- I couldn't help myself |
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Fri Jan-25-08 04:31 PM
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Dean has nearly single-handedly resurrected the Democratic Party from the death throes it was in under the "inside the beltway" idiot strategists and the DLC.
Throw Dean overboard, and you throw me overboard, too.
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Fri Jan-25-08 04:53 PM
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20. So am I. Kiss the 50 State Strategy good bye if Clinton wins. |
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Fri Jan-25-08 04:23 PM
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2. 50 state strategy and fucks 2 states over, yup thats strategy |
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Fri Jan-25-08 04:24 PM
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3. wow - you win the uninformed post of the day award. |
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Fri Jan-25-08 04:28 PM
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7. So inform us if the OP is wrong. nt |
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Fri Jan-25-08 05:11 PM
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25. my comment was not to the OP, but to the response about the 50 state strategy |
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Fri Jan-25-08 04:24 PM
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4. They fucked themselves over. Is it fair to blame the cop if you get caught speeding? |
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They knew the rules. They broke the rules. They knew the consequences. They did this to themselves.
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Fri Jan-25-08 04:48 PM
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11. "They knew the rules" You mean the voters of Florida who are being punished? |
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Fri Jan-25-08 04:52 PM
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17. The voters of FL can get active in their party and have a say in it. |
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Look up Democratic party in the phone book and find out how.
This is more bullshit from Team Clinton.
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Fri Jan-25-08 05:33 PM
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29. Short-sighted imbeciles over run this place.Buy a clue |
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Fri Jan-25-08 05:43 PM
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31. Typical of a Clinton supporter not to want people involved in the party |
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They might learn what snakes you really are.
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Fri Jan-25-08 04:56 PM
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21. Sorry. I'll be more specific. The state party broke the rules |
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The DNC is not to blame for the state party breaking the rules. But I bet a lot of them don't blame their state party, because they agreed that their primary should be sooner. It was a popular political move, which is why the state Dems went along with it.
It's not the DNC's fault the state party broke the rules. Would you rather the primaries were a free for all with each state trying to be first?
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Fri Jan-25-08 05:01 PM
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24. I'd rather the big shots figure out a solution so as not to |
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disenfranchise hundreds of thousands of voters who will be needed in the GE in order for the dems to take back the WH.
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Fri Jan-25-08 06:00 PM
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34. Howard Dean didn't do this. The Elected Congresses of MI and FL did this. |
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They knew what was at risk.
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Fri Jan-25-08 04:32 PM
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9. Sen Clinton asked them to Reconsider the ruling. Would you be in a tizzy if Obama |
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Fri Jan-25-08 04:36 PM
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10. also, "riding over" is a bit much. You seem to think she can seat the |
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fl and mich people?--She simply is asking for them to be enfranchised.
.....It seems like they're riding right over what the DNC has decided as if it meant nothing. Would they be doing that if it were McAuliffe still in charge. I think not...........
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Fri Jan-25-08 04:49 PM
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12. They're adults. They can handle it. |
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I don't think the Clintons or Dean are that think skinned.
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Fri Jan-25-08 04:49 PM
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13. if McAuliffe was still in charge |
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the primary season would have been cancelled after New Hampshire and Clinton would have been awarded the nomination.
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Fri Jan-25-08 05:45 PM
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Fri Jan-25-08 04:49 PM
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14. I think it's guaranteed that Dean, with all the progress he's made, will be out |
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if Clinton is the nominee.
Don't forget what Clinton loyalist James Carville tried to do to him right after the successful 2006 elections.
I sure won't.
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Fri Jan-25-08 04:51 PM
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16. You got that right... James Carville... has jumped the shark |
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And didn't he just forward some secret information to his Republican wife recently?
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Fri Jan-25-08 08:24 PM
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37. I think that was the night of the 2004 election. n/t |
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Fri Jan-25-08 09:34 PM
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38. To seal the deal, leaking insider info to his Republican Cheney-loving wife |
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What a stink that guy exudes.
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Fri Jan-25-08 04:50 PM
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15. I am for the right to vote, personalities be damned. And it's sad that most of you |
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are so caught into the personalities as to not even see the issue.
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Fri Jan-25-08 04:58 PM
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23. So the primary should be a free for all, |
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any semblance of order be damned?
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Fri Jan-25-08 06:04 PM
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35. The states determine when they vote |
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the Party should not disenfranchise voters just to preserve "order" (which in this case means, the "right" of Iowa and NH to go first).
Look, I believe the DNC wanted to do what was best of the party. But it just doesn't make sense to piss off the entire population of a swing state like Florida. There HAD to be a better way, but no one had the courage to defy the powerful NH and Iowa factions, least of all the candidates themselves.
Somehow the Republicans managed to avoid the conflict. How come we couldn't?
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Fri Jan-25-08 05:15 PM
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26. WELL SAID--she politely asked that fl and mich be RE-infranchised. |
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Fri Jan-25-08 04:52 PM
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19. That's why they pushed Harold Ford - for total DLC control of the party. |
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Of course, they're never going to get it.
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Fri Jan-25-08 04:56 PM
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22. Dean's term is up anyway. |
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He's done a super-human job, as usual.
I'm IN Michigan.
The rank and file DID NOT want to push for the early primary at the cost of not having all of our candidates on the ballot.
Wonks at the Democratic and Republican LEGISLATIVE level *ucked us over.
The DLC *ucked us over.
They wanted to appear INVINCIBLE with their FRONT-LOADED candidates.
Everybody LOST.
I hope our delegates DON'T get seated.
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Fri Jan-25-08 05:17 PM
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27. Nope. Dean was too often too tough on bubba's buddy Poppy's son |
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Fri Jan-25-08 05:36 PM
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30. Presidential politics trumps |
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DNC niceties every day of the week.
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Fri Jan-25-08 06:22 PM
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That is all that matters.
Control.
The people's needs and choices take backseat to power
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