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Fri Jan-25-08 05:46 PM
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New Public Policy Poll (PPP) out today: Obama 44%, Clinton 24%, Edwards 19% Undec 14% |
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"PPP has now done three surveys in SC over the last two weeks. Obama has been at 44% in each of them. Clinton's standing has dropped from 31% two weeks ago, to 28% in one done earlier this wek to 24% in last night's poll. John Edwards meanwhile went from 15% earlier this week to 19% in this poll...The interesting trend is the rise of Edwdards and the decline of Clinton. If enough undecideds break his way tomorrow, it's entirely possible Edwards could pull a surprise second place finish in the state."
Demographics: Men: 41 (obama), 24 (Clinton), 21 (Edwards) Women: 46% (Obama), 24% (Clinton), 17% (Edwards) White: 37% (Clinton), 34% (Edwards), 18% (Obama) Black: 67% (Obama), 13% (Clinton), 4% (Edwards)
www.publicpolicypolling.com
(plus or minus 4%)poll of 595 likely democratic voters on January 24th.
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Fri Jan-25-08 05:47 PM
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1. Looks like we have a racial division. Damn, just damn. nt |
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Fri Jan-25-08 05:49 PM
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3. Not necessarily. 11% of whites are undecided. |
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Fri Jan-25-08 06:01 PM
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10. 14% Men undecided. 13% Women Undecided. |
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Fri Jan-25-08 05:50 PM
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5. Not to mention a GENDER division... |
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...which suggests that black dems in SC outnumber white dems? I find it pretty shocking that the majority of women aren't going for Hillary, even though the majority of Blacks are going for Obama. :shrug:
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Fri Jan-25-08 06:11 PM
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If you belong to two groups that face discrimination, you might decide which needs the win more. Or...you might think like my sister when I said, "what if we had a choice of first black, first woman, or first Jewish president...?" My sister said, "I wouldn't vote for the Jew! We don't need to get the blame for this!" Lotta complex reactions in play.
What interests me is that the largest group of undecided is Black. Which makes me wonder if we'll see a reverse Bradley Effect.
Once again, polls be damned, I haven't a clue what people will decide alone in that voting booth.
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Fri Jan-25-08 06:13 PM
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13. We don't know how many women in the sample either. Bogus polls. |
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They'll be discredited - in outcome or numbers - big time.
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Fri Jan-25-08 06:18 PM
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14. Wrong. I've already seen another poll here this week saying the same thing... |
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Obama IS leading among SC women. If you can prove otherwise with a recent SC poll, be my guess.
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Fri Jan-25-08 05:48 PM
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2. An Edwards 2nd place finish would be wonderful. |
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It would kill Hillary's momentum going into Super Tuesday.
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Fri Jan-25-08 05:50 PM
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Barack's easily anticipated win in SC due almost solely to the largest voting bloc in the State -- African-Americans -- will do nothing to either halt or give momentum going into Super Tuesday.
He has too many other groups to win over before he can start making a dent in those delegate-rich Feb 5th States.
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Fri Jan-25-08 05:57 PM
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7. I don't agree with that assessment. |
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She's very well positioned for Feb. 5th in too many of the important states (I've seen the internals). SC has already been discounted as a loss and strategically it doesn't matter that much, though it would have mattered if she had lost in NV. As it is, Hillary is doing just fine.
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Fri Jan-25-08 06:28 PM
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15. So, she wins even when she loses?? Spinnnnnnnnnnnn |
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Edited on Fri Jan-25-08 06:29 PM by godai
Seems like for some Hillary supporters, everything that happens is just perfect for her (and Bill's) inevitable return to the White House. I wouldn't be measuring the drapes just yet. A win for Obama in SC will changes things a lot between SC and Super Tuesday.
Should Edwards finish 2nd in SC, things could get very interesting and undecided.
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Fri Jan-25-08 05:55 PM
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6. Man, Edwards really needs to get some black votes |
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if he's going to stay in the race. Tyra tried to help today, but I doubt it was enough!
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Fri Jan-25-08 05:59 PM
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8. This poll is the ONLY one that shows Obama's lead increasing...The other polls show him with a |
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Edited on Fri Jan-25-08 05:59 PM by journalist3072
still sizeable but strinking lead in SC.
Tomorrow should be interesting.
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Fri Jan-25-08 06:00 PM
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9. 16% undecided in the Black column. Only 11% in the White. |
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The undecideds own this primary.
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Fri Jan-25-08 06:05 PM
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I honestly think that most AA will break for Obama though--but hopefully some will also break for Edwards as well as whites. I would like to see Edwards come in at least second.
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