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Sun Jan-27-08 01:37 PM
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Hillary To Go To Florida Today or Tomorrow Per CNN |
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I'm a Hillary supporter and just heard CNN say this. Whether it's true or not, I'l keep ya'll posted. I seriously doubt she will come to my hometown. :(
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Sun Jan-27-08 01:38 PM
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1. They have confirmed she will be there on Tuesday |
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election day for fund raisers
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Sun Jan-27-08 01:39 PM
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2. She's going to force the issue, put Obama on record with what he says. |
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Good for her. They wanna play hardball lets see how they explain to the american public watching how they were all for every vote counts in Nevada but not in Florida.
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Sun Jan-27-08 01:43 PM
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5. Apples and oranges much? n/t |
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Sun Jan-27-08 01:46 PM
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11. She is a sleaze and that's why the landslide against her. The nation is growing wise |
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Let her go. It will only increase the defection
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Sun Jan-27-08 01:49 PM
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15. I think it is shameful that you use that word to lable a Dem. Candidate. |
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Sun Jan-27-08 01:56 PM
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23. She's going after the LOOONNGGG term damage. And she does not care. |
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Howard Dean built the Party that gave her the path to compete.
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Sun Jan-27-08 01:59 PM
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30. you called her sleaze. This is the problem I have with your post. Beyond RUDE. |
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Sun Jan-27-08 02:33 PM
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39. It is TRUE. HIllary is playing dirty politics and it is not becoming. |
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WE are tired of this garbage as Americans after the last 8 years. Expect more trouncings if she keeps it up. No, she will not be given a pass. She and her husband are behaving in a very undemocratic manner!!!
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Sun Jan-27-08 02:05 PM
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34. is it sleaze to run ads in Florida? Or is it only sleaze when Clinton does it? |
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hypocritical double standards
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Sun Jan-27-08 01:46 PM
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..she should have decided she wanted this before hand. She could have at any point between the DNC made this decision and now, raised this issue. Just as she could have made an issue of the Caucus locations any time between when that was decided and when the union endorsed Obama. But now that she's been beaten in 2 primaries she's making an issue of it just like it was only after the union endorsed Obama that she made an issue of the caucus locations.
I could actually give a crap about Obama and his reach across the aisle triangulating and as far as I'm concerned their supporters can have at each other all they want.
But this is a shameless ploy if she pulls it. Of course the fact that she "agreed" to not campaign in those places yet still was the only one to keep her name on the ballot tells me that she planned on adhering to what the Democratic National Committe decided only as long as it either helped or didn't hurt her.
Go ahead. Yes, I know. I'm a republican/mysoginist/Obama supporter/sexist/evil/ignorant/whatever people who disagree with your candidate and/or their tactics are as oppossed to someone who can look at a situation, look at facts and make a decision on their own about how they feel about it.
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Sun Jan-27-08 01:49 PM
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14. Trust me, if Obama was winning in Florida and Michigan |
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he'd have pulled the same thing. No question about it.
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Sun Jan-27-08 01:57 PM
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27. Hillary projection of herself onto the world. This slime is so who she is she cannot imagine |
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anyone being any other way.
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Sun Jan-27-08 02:01 PM
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31. First you call her sleaze, now slime. Can you say something with out the devisive labels? |
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Sun Jan-27-08 02:05 PM
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35. Then why didn't he keep himself on the ballot in MI? |
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Edited on Sun Jan-27-08 02:07 PM by vi5
Hillary did. That's the only reason she won that state unequivically.
Edwards and Obama abided by the decision of the party's national committee and didn't campaign there and removed their names from the ballot. If either of the other two were planning on pulling something like this, common sense would have led me to believe that they would have planned accordingly by keeping their names on the ballot. So spin it all you want with what they would or wouldn't have done, the fact is that of the 3 leaders in this race only Hillary pulled this and clearly only Hillary planned on using this to her advantage.
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Sun Jan-27-08 01:41 PM
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3. She'll be going to Miami to swoon the Cuban vote. |
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Sun Jan-27-08 01:43 PM
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4. Cause she is persona non grata in anywhere certainly north of Orlando. |
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Sun Jan-27-08 01:44 PM
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7. Do You Have Something Against Cubans? |
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Sun Jan-27-08 01:48 PM
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13. It won't work ... remember Elian Gonzales? That was Clinton and they remember well. |
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Regardless of the fact that Clinton was absolutely justified in his action. They remember how he embarrassed them.
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Sun Jan-27-08 01:44 PM
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6. What a scummy, underhanded tactic on Hillary's part. No surprise, however. |
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Sun Jan-27-08 01:45 PM
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8. She will tear this party apart to get the power and keep it. |
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Sun Jan-27-08 01:46 PM
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10. Yes, and her supporters will applaud and excuse every underhanded move she makes. |
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Sun Jan-27-08 01:51 PM
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17. Obama will do anything to win. Even disenfranchising FL voters. |
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Sun Jan-27-08 01:52 PM
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20. You're not endearing people to your candidate with Bushisto/Rovian spin |
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Sun Jan-27-08 01:54 PM
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I turned the tables around. Leaned that phase from the Obama folks. Does not |
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Sun Jan-27-08 01:59 PM
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29. Well I guess this REALLY means California has rejected her. |
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Sun Jan-27-08 01:46 PM
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9. I think being the only one to turn up for the primary might make a lot |
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of difference to a lot of people in Florida.
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Sun Jan-27-08 01:51 PM
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18. If she wins the nomination ... cause FL don't count (live from WPB) |
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Sun Jan-27-08 01:52 PM
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19. Florida Was Left Out :( |
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And please don't tell me it's because they bumped up there primary, I'm well aware of that. At least all the democrat candidates are on the ballot and I can vote for Hillary. :)
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Sun Jan-27-08 01:56 PM
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24. Yes, that is a good thing. |
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Sun Jan-27-08 01:49 PM
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16. Good to hear she'll be wasting her time in a state the party says won't count |
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reminding everyone how desperate she is to spin Tuesday as a make-good on the SC disaster and how Team Restoration is ready to subvert the delegate process if need be.
Meantime, Obama will be campaigning somewhere relevant to Feb. 5.
Fine with me.
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Sun Jan-27-08 01:52 PM
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21. Sen. Clinton asked the DNC to re-consider their ruling that disenfranchises delegates/voters. |
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Maybe they will, maybe they won't.
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Sun Jan-27-08 01:54 PM
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22. Cuz she's all about voting rights |
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except when it comes to students in Iowa and union members in Nevada.
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Sun Jan-27-08 01:56 PM
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25. you just killed your own argument |
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Obama was all for voters rights in Nevada when it suited him and now he isnt for Florida. Peculiar.
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Sun Jan-27-08 01:57 PM
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26. GREAT ONE Right ON.!! |
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Sun Jan-27-08 01:58 PM
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28. Obama and Edwards are abiding by the DNC's ruling |
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if you want to accuse someone of disenfranchisement, start with the Democratic Party.
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Sun Jan-27-08 02:03 PM
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They campaigned in Michigan for uncommitted, thats not abiding by the ruling, Obama has ads running in Florida, thats not abiding by the rules.
So whatever way you look at it, the pledge was dead long ago. So Obama is playing victim again and its worn thin now.
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Sun Jan-27-08 02:06 PM
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36. The only rubbish on display is the candidate who leaves her name on the ballot in Mich. |
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and is pumping Florida up to be something that it's not.
No wonder you two get along so well.
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Sun Jan-27-08 02:09 PM
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37. think again or are you stupid |
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Kucinich, gravel and dod all left their names on, no one attacked them. They orchestrated a campaign against Hillary in Michigan.
Amazing you think Florida does not matter, i remember losing 2 elections because it, or are that brainwashed already.
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Sun Jan-27-08 03:54 PM
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41. Obama played the victim in SC--its a tactic that works |
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Rubbish again
They campaigned in Michigan for uncommitted, thats not abiding by the ruling, Obama has ads running in Florida, thats not abiding by the rules.
So whatever way you look at it, the pledge was dead long ago. So Obama is playing victim again and its worn thin now.
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Sun Jan-27-08 02:03 PM
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33. So is Sen. Clinton--She just asked them to re-consider. Whether they will or |
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will not we do not know at this point.
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Sun Jan-27-08 03:52 PM
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40. BRAVO: you got it: "Cuz she's all about voting rights" |
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Sun Jan-27-08 02:25 PM
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38. She can stay out of Michigan with her political manuvering. |
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I know she won our state, but that's because many in the rank-and-file vote for whomever their party chairs tell them to, and Granholm made it clear we were all to vote for Hillary. Screw that. She doesn't actually care about us up here or how we're dying as a state. All she wants is to manuver some win out of us without having to actually ask for it.
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