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sunonmars Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-28-08 10:16 AM
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Did you know Obama broke the pledge last Sept and also promised to seat Florida

http://www2.tbo.com/content/2007/sep/30/obama-vows-do-whats-right/?news-breaking

GOTCHA

So Which is it Barack ... Seat them only if it suits you and speak to reporters in Florida when you were not allowed. He's flipflopping again.

Obama broke the Florida pledge in Sept 2007 and then pledged to seat the Florida Delegation at the same time.


Florida Sept 30th 2007

TAMPA - Barack Obama hinted during a Tampa fundraiser Sunday that if he's the presumptive Democratic presidential nominee, he'll seat a Florida delegation at the party's national convention, despite national party sanctions prohibiting it.

Obama also appeared to violate a pledge he and the other leading candidates took by holding a brief news conference outside the fundraiser. That was less than a day after the pledge took effect Saturday, and Obama is the first Democratic presidential candidate to visit Florida since then.

But after the fundraiser at the Hyde Park home of Tom and Linda Scarritt, Obama crossed the street to take half a dozen questions from reporters waiting there.

The pledge covers anything referred to in Democratic National Committee rules as "campaigning," and those include "holding news conferences."

According to Sanchez and Tom Scarritt, Obama was asked during the event about making sure Floridians have a role in the nomination, despite the DNC sanctions and the pledge. Scarritt said Obama responded that he'll "do what's right by Florida voters."
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NYCGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-28-08 10:17 AM
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1. What part of "if he's the presumptive Democratic presidential nominee" in that
Edited on Mon Jan-28-08 10:18 AM by NYCGirl
article don't you understand?

Edited to add: That means he will seat them AT THE CONVENTION.
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sunonmars Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-28-08 10:18 AM
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4. but he wont if its brokered right? I get you


So only if it suits him, very nice way to think of the voters.

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NYCGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-28-08 10:20 AM
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5. It doesn't mention anything about "brokered", which is a SMALL, SMALL,
TEENY TINY possibility.
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MNDemNY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-28-08 10:29 AM
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12. If by "teeny-tiny" you mean very likely.
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ClassWarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-28-08 10:43 AM
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15. It sure is more likely this time than it's been in a long time...
...but the possibility is still pretty darn remote.

NGU.


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Tennessee Gal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-28-08 10:21 AM
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7. What part of "despite national party sanctions prohibiting it" don't
you understand?
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ClassWarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-28-08 10:26 AM
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10. Once there's a nominee, what does it matter?
At that point, I think it'd be a rather magnanimous, unifying gesture.

NGU.


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NYCGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-28-08 10:27 AM
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11. And this explains it:
The DNC has threatened to refuse to seat a Florida convention delegation because of the too-early primary, which the Florida Legislature decided on last spring. But if a candidate amasses enough delegates before the primary to ensure the nomination, that candidate would take control of the convention, including the power to seat a delegation.

State Democrats are considering asking all candidates to pledge they would seat the state's delegation.

The boycott pledge was demanded by the four states - Iowa, New Hampshire, Nevada and South Carolina - which are allowed to hold primaries before Feb. 5.


According to the DNC ruling, delegates won't count UNTIL the convention, after a nominee is presumptively chosen.
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ClassWarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-28-08 10:30 AM
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14. More of those pesky "fact" thingies.
Quit muddying up the waters.

:rofl:

NGU.


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Tom Rinaldo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-28-08 11:20 AM
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16. That is exactly what Clinton urges her delates to vote for AT THE CONVENTION
Not to ultimately seat Florida's delegation at the Democratic National Convention would be acting out a political suicide wish by our Party.
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busymom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-28-08 10:17 AM
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2. Sssshhh...
Back to screaming "Hillary campaigned in Florida" that cheater.
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MNDemNY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-28-08 10:18 AM
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3. More of those pesky "fact" thingies.
Quit muddying up the waters.
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ClassWarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-28-08 10:20 AM
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6. In other words, if he WINS THE NOMINATION...
...he'll seat them.

As opposed to seating them TO WIN THE NOMINATION.

That's very dignified of him. Thanks for pointing it out.

NGU.


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sunonmars Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-28-08 10:22 AM
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8. basically its a

Fuck off if Hillary needs the votes but if i do, i will. What a waste of space really. He doesnt give a flying fuck about them its clear.
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ClassWarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-28-08 10:23 AM
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9. Where does the article you quoted say that?
Edited on Mon Jan-28-08 10:39 AM by ClassWarrior
Or is that just paranoia?

NGU.


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GoldieAZ49 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-28-08 10:30 AM
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13. Hello
If they vote for Hillary she will try to get the delegates seated.

Do you really expect candidates to try and rack up votes for their opponents?


Has Hillary tried to get votes for Obama??

Your grasping at straws...at best.
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