Ed Shultz show..Norman just ran a clip of Clinton yelling are youwith me over and over and over

[Windy]

He said it was a "Dean" moment...

What is he talking about? Did anyone else hear anything about this?

Apparently it happened at a campaign rally today.

[LisaM]

1. He keeps playing it, it's really annoying

Is he becoming a bandwagon jumper? It seems as if every time someone wins a primary, they suddenly attract a bandwagon. Why can't we continue to talk about issues? I feel as if I'm watching Campaign Survivor.

[russian33]

5. no, Shulz just hates the Clintons

[peaches2003]

10. Ed had a sub in for him today, so Ed did not run this himself

[DemocratSinceBirth]

7. Ed Schultz Is A Despicable Man Without Core Beliefs

He used to be a right wing talk show host but he couldn't "break out" because Insanity, Bored, Limpballs, and Savaged Weiner owned that segment of the market so he went left...

It would be as if I became RepublicanSinceBirth because I thought being a Pug would be more lucrative...

[SammyWinstonJack]

46. Plus his voice reminds me of Limpball's.

:puke: Now I know why. :evilgrin:

[KoKo]

59. I keep hearing this about Schultz but don't get links so I can understand

what the big deal is that some folks keep saying this about him. :shrug:

[LittleClarkie]

2. Only if the MSM makes it thus

And only if you can't hear the crowd answer back.

That was so unfair, Dean's directional mic didn't pick up the crowd he was yelling over.

[Windy]

6. Oh I agree...the media treated him terribly and it was shameful.

While Hillary did sound a bit manic, the media should leave it alone.

[Maddy McCall]

3. So what?

The media keep waiting on any of candidates to have a "Dean moment." They will force it to be, even if it's not.

I see nothing wrong with someone yelling "You with me? You with me?" at a campaign rally. I'd be disappointed if the candidate did NOT try to fire up his or her supporters.

[Lucinda]

51. Exactly.

[CoffeeCat]

4. Ok, I'll say this...

I heard Hillary speak and it was obvious that she was speaking lower and with more force
than usual. It was jarring.

I don't begrudge her for doing this. I see it as a tactic. However, I will say that
her gruff, low, very loud speech was an attempt to overshadow--or at least make herself
psychologically parallel with the Teddy Kennedy speech that was given today.

I'm not saying that she was trying to sound LIKE Ted Kennedy, but she was trying to
give a speech that exuded a sense of command and force that was on par with Kennedy's
speech.

Clearly--and there is no dispute about this, the entire tone and tenor of her speech
shifted dramatically.

She sounded like she was sorta...screaming and growling at the same time. Scrowling?

Is this a major issue? Heck no.

[Windy]

8. I think she sounded upset. Not a slam hillary people. She had a bad day today.

I wouldn't want to be in her shoes today.

[1corona4u]

15. Why did she have a bad day today?

[jenmito]

27. Just a wild guess, but I'd say it's because Ted, Caroline, and Patrick Kennedy publicly endorsed

OBAMA today despite Hillary's, uh, Bill's, attempt to STOP the endorsement?

[1corona4u]

54. In the end, it won't matter....

no big deal.

[jenmito]

58. You asked why she had a bad day today.

Are you saying that wouldn't have put her in not such a good mood today?

[jefferson_dem]

9. Ed Shultz has no credibility in my book.

Pfft.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

13. See Post Seven

Can we agree on that?

[jefferson_dem]

18. Of course.

I have never liked nor trusted that smarmy blowhard. He's like a faux liberal-moderate version of Bill O'Reilly...at best.

[R_M]

47. I agree.

He's a putz.

[Quixote1818]

28. It wasn't Ed Schultz. It was a fill in who played the clip. nt

[robbedvoter]

11. They've been dying for one - that's why MSNBC showed him Saturday

It's the new Clenis hunt... (used to be for THOSE pictures in the old days)

[Kucinich4America]

12. This thing is 100 times worse than the Dean scream ever was

and it wasn't even "enhanced" like the Dean scream.

Of course the corporate media won't play it, because they love Hillary.

But that HORRIBLE screaming voice of hers is yet another reason why she cannot ever be President. God, listening to 8 years of that? :scared:

[robbedvoter]

17. You ARE sarcastic, right? RIGHT???

The "Dean scream" itself was the culmination of MSM changing designated loser to GOP in 2004. It had been Dean, but they made a deal with Kerry - before any vote was cast - so dean started to be maligned.
A cautionary tale for Obama & supporters. It's only temporary.

[Kucinich4America]

26. I was a Deaniac in 2003-04

I know exactly what those fucking pieces of shit did to Dean. Meaning the Whore Media AND the DLC.

[Quixote1818]

22. It was bad! I almost had to cover my ears. I thought the Dean scream was kind of fun. nt

[arewenotdemo]

37. The Dean Scream was great!

[LittleClarkie]

24. Pffffft.

So she was having a "red meat" moment. That happens at every rally for every candidate, doesn't it?

[sfam]

14. Hillary has like 16 years in the national spotlight. She can't have a "Dean" moment

Dean made that speech while really introducing himself to the public. Hillary did that years ago. Time and time again in fact. Love her, hate her, or being unsure about her, EVERYONE has heard of and thought about Hillary. She can't really have a Dean moment.

Besides, the only news today will be of the Kennedy speech, so if she did bad today, she chose a good day to do it on.

[Jim__]

16. Dean never had a "dean" moment.

It's all just media bullshit.

[sfam]

19. Not true...Once the voice was singled out, he had his moment

People went away from him in droves at that moment. It crystallized everything people were worried about concerning his candidacy.

[madfloridian]

63. The media deliberately destroyed his candidacy.

It is called death by media.

[ErnestoG]

20. It would be Karmic justice for Hillary Clinton and her DLC backers

who triangulated on Howard Dean and fervently supported the repeated playing of the "Dean Scream".

Excuse me if I'm getting a chuckle out of this one.

[butterfly77]

21. Yes, I am listening ...

and there was a caller from florida who told him that she and a group of women were listening and they are for Hillary and they don't like what they are hearing...She gave some statistics comparing Florida to SC and she said that certain parts of Florida are larger than all of the people in SC..she described in the millions...

[Quixote1818]

25. And several other women called in telling those women all the reasons not to vote

for Hillary.

[Kucinich4America]

32. The paid Hillbot phone callers are even easier to pick out than the ones on DU

And they have been all over the radio shows the last two weeks or so.

[Metric System]

41. Are you really so arrogant as to assume that Hillary has no supporters?

Or that they need to be paid to support her?!? Ugh.

[oasis]

23. Ed's securing his future by going against Hillary and jumping on the Obama wagon. "Mediocre Ed"

is guaranteed 4 more years of employment if his daily rants are directed at President John McCain.

[geek tragedy]

29. Is this Youtube what they're talking about?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mONn0VL_2Lc

[Quixote1818]

34. No, it was 1,000 times worse than that. nt

[Kucinich4America]

35. No, this one was 1000 times worse than that.

I don't think it's on YouTube yet. I'm not sure where Norman Goldman got it.

EDIT: added a zero. Quixote was right.

[geek tragedy]

42. Oh, man. This I gotta hear. n/t

[Quixote1818]

43. Thats funny, we both said it was 1,000 times worse

:D

[otohara]

50. And You'd Both Be Right

yikes, this isn't good for Hillary.

[geek tragedy]

53. Is this it?

http://youtube.com/watch?v=KJHCpPNvapE

[Quixote1818]

55. No, that was so muffled I coulden't tell what she was saying. nt

[geek tragedy]

56. "WILL YOU HELP ME! WILL YOU HELP ME!" n/t

[Quixote1818]

57. Yes, that is the event but that just wasn't a very clear recording of it. nt

[Quixote1818]

60. Here is an article about it

http://www.cbsnews.com/blogs/2008/01/23/politics/fromtheroad/entry3746807.shtml

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=103&topic_id=333992&mesg_id=333992

[DemocratSinceBirth]

30. Insanity And Rush Do That

They will take a snippet from a Kennedy or a Byrd speech and try to portray them as frothing at the mouth lunatics....

Shultz would be joining them but they owned that niche so he transformed himself from a right wing gas bag to a pseudo left wing one...

I don't know whether to be happy or sad that they own him so badly... What's worse ? a real Fascist? or a faux, ersatz liberal?

[tekisui]

39. He has lowered himself this Primary season.

He was never great, but he is nearly unbearable now.

[LisaM]

31. What about when Michelle Obama kept yelling "Nevada! Nevada!"

She pronounced it wrong, and when she corrected herself, she shouted it out at least ten times. I saw it played a little bit, but then it went away. They all do stuff like this in the heat of the moment.

[in_cog_ni_to]

33. Ed Schultz hates Hillary Clinton. A Dean moment? He wishes. Schultz is an ass.

He has nothing nice to say about Hillary because she refuses to go on his RW show.

[Kucinich4America]

38. Ed Schultz had nothing to do with it.

He's not on the show today. It was his usual guest host Norman Goldman.

[Quixote1818]

36. The title is making everyone think it was Ed Schultz who did this

It wasn't Ed Schultz but a fill in named Norman Goldman who ran the clip.

[AngryAmish]

40. Who has the clip?

[tekisui]

44. So far, the Ed Schultz Show is the only place I've heard it.

[Unsane]

45. Big Ed rocks

[otohara]

48. If This Clip Get's Played Over & Over

on radio and TV, it won't be pretty.

I seriously thought it was fake, a joke to make her sound kinda crazy.

[Quixote1818]

49. I suspect Hannity and Rush already have it and are ready to play it every hour on the hour

nt

[VotesForWomen]

52. yeah, he hopes it's a dean moment. and of course the dean moment was manufactured. nt

[janetblond]

61. Yeah, I heard it ...

He played it over and over again.
It sounded AWFUL!
... was worse than the Dean scream.
Sadly, the right-wing media did in Dean with the scream.
I sure hope when we get a Demo President, he/she repeals the 1996 Telecommunications Act which let all these TOXIC right-wingers take over the media.

[Metric System]

62. So I suppose we should all cheer on this political hit job right?

If we buy into this smear then we've learned nothing from what was done to Dean in 2004. These sort of tactics by the media should not be condoned. How long until this is done to Obama?

[JVS]

64. Which Clinton, Bill or Hillary?

And the very fact that I sincerely have to ask this is a disgraceful reflection of the Clinton(s) campaign.

[tekisui]

65. Hillary.

[joshcryer]

66. Anyone have a link to the actual video?