Tears, platitudes, grand sweeping statements, feed the soul, but not swollen bellies.

[Ninga]

Hungry bellies and homeless hearts, broken bodies propped up in waiting rooms.

They are the Americans who are still waiting for the endorsed of 2000 and 2004 to show up.

Endorsements don't put food on the table, or gas in the tank and they sure don't put Democrats in the White House......do they??

Endorsements are self serving calculations, nothing more than what Phil the Ground Hog will do.

[SammyWinstonJack]

1. K&R!

:applause:

[BOSSHOG]

2. I've been voting

in presidential elections since 1972 and not once have I been influenced one way or the other about any endorsement. Most of them are rather predictable and I guess they influence someone. I watch them in amusement rather then be influenced.

[Proud2BAmurkin]

3. "endorsements are self serving calculations"

yup

[cali]

4. they can help do that.

And endorsements can be many things, not merely self-serving. How would you know what's in the minds or hearts of the endorsers.

You just sound like another self-righteous, bitter poster.

[Ninga]

7. I would expect no less of you.

[cali]

13. believe me, I would expect nothing from you but smarmy self-righeous

holier than thou bullshit.

[Ninga]

17. I didn't invite you to fly into this post like an old crow and bellow. I stand by my

original words which did not mention names, nor attack.

You dear poster have a lot of growing up to do, you need to get out of the house, take a walk and lose a few pounds. You will feel better.

If you are doing all of this posting from work. You should be fired.

[Two Americas]

20. laughed out loud at that

"You just sound like another self-righteous, bitter poster."

Thanks for the laugh.

[avaistheone1]

5. Just about P.R.- usually more about the endorser, than endorsee.

[R_M]

14. Very true.

[FrenchieCat]

6. Yelling at the camera, and then grinning a big one after talking about homeless veterans

in a speech doesn't either.

John Edwards' rethorics as he rails against Corporations while taking a salary from an Hedgefunds in an amount that equals more than many struggling will make in years doesn't either.


Voting for China trade bills, bankructy bills, and Co-sponsoring a war that should never have been waged, taking billions from our treasury (money needed for social programs) does less for feeding the hungry and keeping a check on Gas prices. Apologies 3 years later also does nothing for the poor.

[Ninga]

10. Old tired and yesterday.

[FrenchieCat]

12. Swollen bellies happen and continue based on series of events that keep on

ticking, no matter what is said, and no matter how much time passes.

You poo-poohing the meaning of the moment in time that we witnessed today will not feed one single soul.

Inspiration is to the soul, what food is to the hungry....fuel to go on one more day.

You don't see it or appreciate it because you are in love with another candidate; a candidate that his supporters have consistently attempted to equal to FDR or RFK just due to the words he merely speaks, while calling his actually record of deeds "history".

But that's ok. You are but one of a group of a few.

[Ninga]

16. I have no argument with your soul or anyone else. You could have chosen not to respond

to my post.

But you did.

Good people who have spent their entire lives working for social, moral and economic justice have nothing but praise for John Edwards.

I don't know where you think you are going.....but when you leave, take your inspiration with you and go do some good.

[Ninga]

11. n/t

[here_is_to_hope]

8. Dont fuck with the New Jesus....n/t

[golddigger]

9. Yep! All hail the anointed one...

[BlackVelvet04]

15. But what about the goose bumps? n/t

[Bluerthanblue]

18. just as promises don't either. Both are "nice" but neither

can sustain life for very long.

I believe that all the candidates wish they could really accomplish what they say in their campaign promises.

If DK was elected, he'd have to settle for far less on almost every very important-positive plan he has. I believe of all the candidates, his hold the keys to a very positive, healthy America- but that America isn't able to fact this, ..yet.

I think it is important to entertain hope- but to also face reality.

The most vital issues like war, homelessness, starvation, torture, sickness, - abuse etc. must be dealt with, but unless we take that message to each individual American, and give them back the power of their vote, their voice- nothing important will really change.

America needs to face the uncomfortable reality- that we cannot call ourselves "good" or "free" or "united" or "worthy" with any integrity, if we turn a blind eye to those who are in critical need, and continue to allow the wealthy and powerful to feast without conscience by the work of others.

Endorsements are ways for people to build on hope they hear in a candidates message. Not empty hope- but something energizing, someone who helps you understand that with some real effort- this doesn't HAVE to be just another changing of the guard, or futile exercise-

Rather it is an opportunity to help elect someone who can wake us up, dust ourselves off, and help us work toward making some positive- CONSTRUCTIVE- vs. destructive choices and changes.


(off my soapbox)

Thanks for making me think- and question my ..values..

peace~
peace~

[Ninga]

19. No need to apologize for your soap box. Well said. The perspective I bring to this

long suffering debate is my age. I have been around a long time and have learned that voters have even a shorter memory than politicians.

It is quite depressing.

Johnson, and his Great Society Programs, was the last great gasp of air for the underclass. And since then, both sides of the aisle have ripped those programs apart, so much so, that they are not recognizable.

Edwards knows platitudes and promises are empty unless they are standing on a foundation that is solid and deep.

He knows, because he has been there.

That's all I am saying. :shrug:

[Big Blue Marble]

21. Take a break The psychology is getting to you.

You guys are really losing it.

First Obama has worked the streets with the underclass. He gave up millions of dollars to so.
Bill did not. Edwards and HRC have not. This is just silly.

Clinton was in office for eight years what exactly did he do for the "hungry bellies and homeless hearts?"

Obama will do a whole hell of a lot more for the inner cities because he knows their problems like no one
who has ever been president. That is one of the many things I like about him.

And as you use the underclass in your attempt to vilify Obama
What have you done lately for the same disadvantaged people? Please explain?

You know the ones you speak with such concern about.

I don't know. Maybe some Prosaic would help.

[Control-Z]

22. Did he really give up

millions? I didn't know that about him. That impresses me. Can you link me to the story?

[Big Blue Marble]

23. Here is some bio info on Obama

He was elected as the first President of the Harvard Law Review at Harvard Law School.

In 1990, The New York Times reported his election as the Harvard Law Review's "first black president in its 104-year history".<26> He completed his J.D. degree magna cum laude in 1991.

http://www.boston.com/news/local/articles/2007/01/28/at_harvard_law_a_unifying_voice/

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barack_Obama

“You know, we hadn’t thought that was an important part of his bio, but people really responded to the fact that Barack gave up corporate job offers to work in the community.”

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/04/01/magazine/01axelrod.t.html?pagewanted=print

This link does not specifically state the amount of income he was offered or did any others I had found.

I do know that in an ad Obama is running nationwide Professor Laurence Tribe from Harvard Law and one of the main
lawyers who fought for Gore in the SC battle in 2000 states that Obama gave up a $500,000 dollar a year starting salary
upon graduation from Harvard Law School.

He chose instead to work in the community organizing poor black neighborhoods of the south side of Chicago and work as a civil rights lawyer. Had he chosen the private career in law he would have made millions by now.

[Control-Z]

24. Well, giving up millions of dollars

and passing up one job offer for another are two entirely different things. The later is hardly noble.

If you have a link about the millions, that would be helpful, otherwise it's just more political hype to me.

His bio/resume seems a little weak for a presidential candidate, don't you think? I would love to see some compelling accounts. He's a tough one to get the real skinny on though, I'm learning.

[Bluebear]

25. "I don't know. Maybe some Prosaic would help." - holy Toledo.

Prosaic lol

[Snotcicles]

26. EDWARDS 2008 nt