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Mon Jan-28-08 05:10 PM
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Latest FL polls (all within 1 week) |
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Poll Date Sample Clinton Obama Edwards Spread RCP Average 01/22 - 01/27 - 47.8 29.0 14.4 Clinton +18.8 SurveyUSA 01/27 - 01/27 564 LV 49 29 14 Clinton +20.0 SV (R) 01/25 - 01/27 600 LV 49 36 11 Clinton +13.0 Quinnipiac 01/24 - 01/27 481 LV 50 30 12 Clinton +20.0 Rasmussen 01/26 - 01/26 437 LV 44 25 19 Clinton +19.0 Mason-Dixon 01/22 - 01/23 400 LV 47 25 16 Clinton +22.0 http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2008/president/fl/florida_democratic_primary-261.html
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Mon Jan-28-08 05:16 PM
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1. I hadn't seen survery usa! Thanks. |
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:thumbsup: And if early voting, which was huge, was in Clintons favor, she should have a good day tomorrow!
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Mon Jan-28-08 05:17 PM
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2. I didn' think these votes count... |
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Mon Jan-28-08 05:20 PM
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4. No, they'll count the votes...they just won't mean anything.. |
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when they're all finished.
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Mon Jan-28-08 05:49 PM
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20. The decisive win will get good press. So there is immediate benefit. |
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The delegates, at the moment, will not be seated. Hopefully that will not continue to be the case at the convention.
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Mon Jan-28-08 06:10 PM
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23. That's why FL moved up the primary and screwed the voters' choices... |
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so they could have their media day in the sun.
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Mon Jan-28-08 06:15 PM
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25. Actually...if there is anything to the stories about the Republican involvement in the date change |
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it would seem that the intent was to get the delegates stripped and to ensure FL goes Rep in the general after pissing people off.
But you live there, so I'm sure you know way more about the details than I do. The more I dig about the decisions in MI and FLorida, the murkier it seems to be.
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Mon Jan-28-08 05:19 PM
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3. Regardless Of The Delegate Situation To Be Dismissive Of Florida Is Inane And Insane |
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It is the proverbial "purple " state...It will pass New York in Congressional seats after the next census...It's a microcosm of the United States as the census suggests: http://quickfacts.census.gov/qfd/states/12000.html
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Mon Jan-28-08 05:29 PM
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8. The reason one can easily dismiss the Florida Democratic vote |
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is because no one has campaigned there. More importantly, the people voting in the Democratic Primary know that they are not voting for Convention delegates. It is a straw-poll - interesting but not of any real importance.
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Mon Jan-28-08 05:33 PM
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9. That's Not Entirely Correct |
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Edited on Mon Jan-28-08 05:33 PM by DemocratSinceBirth
I have had many converations with rank and file, read not activist, Democrats in Florida and they have no idea the delegates won't count... When I explain what's going on I get a wide eyed look...
Plus, Mel Martinez and Bill Nelson are doing PSAs encouraging Floridians to vote and that their votes will matter...
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Mon Jan-28-08 05:46 PM
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18. Exactly. Most voters don't give a crap about the mechanics of the party. |
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They care about voters' preferences.
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Mon Jan-28-08 05:49 PM
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19. You mean your Florida friends haven't even noticed |
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that none of the Democratic candidates have campaigned in the state - ran no local ads - made no public appearances?
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Mon Jan-28-08 05:39 PM
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13. Actually Obama is running ads. That is campaigning. |
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Mon Jan-28-08 05:42 PM
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15. BO has been advertising there inspite of agreement. |
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Mon Jan-28-08 05:33 PM
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10. Yep. I've been screaming about MI and FL long before they looked like they were Hillarys. |
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The delegates need to be seated. Pissing off two huge states, AND telling voters their choices aren't wanted in candidate selection is STUPID.
Almost 600,000 people came out to vote for Dems in Michigan. I want one of these people saying they don't matter to go tell them that.
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Mon Jan-28-08 05:37 PM
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11. As I determined, the only way they won't be seated is if Obama is the nominee... |
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...and they might affect his nomination negatively. Otherwise both candidates will seat the delegates. 100%. This comes directly from Dean and Pelosi's mouth.
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Mon Jan-28-08 05:45 PM
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16. I hadn't seen any comment from either of them |
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I'm going to try and find them. Thanks for mentioning it!
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Mon Jan-28-08 05:38 PM
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Obama SC Landslide Does No Additional Damage to Clinton in Florida: The day after Barack Obama's dramatic South Carolina Primary win, there is no new 'mojo' for him in Florida, where he remains as he was the day before South Carolina, 5:3 behind Hillary Clinton, according to SurveyUSA's 9th tracking poll, conducted exclusively for WFLA-TV Tampa and WKRG-TV Mobile. If Florida Democrats had wanted to rebuke the Clinton campaign, that was already factored into SurveyUSA's 01/25/08 data, which showed Obama slicing into Clinton's lead at the end of last week. But nothing since. At this hour, it's Clinton 49%, Obama 29%, John Edwards 14%. One day of campaigning remains. Among voters who have already cast their ballot, Clinton leads Obama by more than 3:1. Among those who have not yet voted, but who say they will vote at the precinct, Clinton leads 4:3.
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Mon Jan-28-08 05:21 PM
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5. no delegates, nobody cares |
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Mon Jan-28-08 05:22 PM
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Mon Jan-28-08 05:29 PM
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7. You Will Care In The Fall If The Pugs Can Put FL In Their Column Without Spending A Dime |
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Mon Jan-28-08 05:40 PM
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14. Hillary is doing well in a state nobody is competing in. |
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Mon Jan-28-08 05:51 PM
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Mon Jan-28-08 06:09 PM
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22. Florida worships the ground |
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Hillary walks on. She will win. Just relax. There is no problem.
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Mon Jan-28-08 06:12 PM
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24. It Says Something About Her Prospects In The Fall |
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I'd bet my house she can beat any Pug here but McCain...Only McCain gives me pause...
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