2 million Democrats voted in Florida and they won't be counted?

[suston96]

0 delegates for Hillary. 0 delegates for Obama. Big joke on Fox news.

Here is another laugher: 0 electoral votes for Clinton/Obama in November! Laugh at that, MFrs !

[Windy]

1. I telephoned the DNC today. the only way the delegates get seated

is if the nominee elects to seat them AFTER he/she wins the nomination.

Meaning that no matter what, neither Michigan or Florida votes count toward the nomination.

[rinsd]

4. Which is what people have been saying for months.

And that is exactly what Hillary was saying when she made her statement.

[suston96]

6. Sorry, not good enough. Democrats in Florida will be pissed when they really get what happened. nt

[blm]

9. They'll be pissed Terry McAuliffe started this rule at the DNC?

http://www.bostonphoenix.com/boston/news_features/talking_politics/documents/03263933.asp

[Coexist]

22. yeah, cuz we're all too stupid to get the headlines in the local papers

and the lead in the local news for 6 weeks when this shit was going on around here, through our thick, sunburned heads.

[ShortnFiery]

10. This is hopeful news. Thanks for the education Windy.

:hi:

[Windy]

11. No problem. I just wanted to get the facts. Too many conflicting messages. n/t

[madfloridian]

16. That is what I have been posting here for months and months.

I was right. I have been viciously attacked but I was right.

[1corona4u]

24. ...

:eyes:

Happy now...I doubt it.

[beachmom]

34. You were right, MadFlo. It's because of your posts that I could understand

what was going on this last week.

Thanks for that.

[madfloridian]

36. Appreciate that.

I have tried to present it fairly because no one else has done that.

[MrMickeysMom]

19. Is that messed up, or WHAT?

Let's see... 2008... marking this down as the year our votes came to a screeching meaningless, paperless HALT in what we thought was a democratic republic.

[billbuckhead]

2. Florida Dems never having their votes count is a old very bad joke

Sad seeing :tinfoilhat:bama's people telling it.

[AGirl]

3. Hillary Got More ! =0

[billbuckhead]

5. Votes don't count?

[Tom Rinaldo]

27. I have always been proud that Gore clearly won the popular vote in 2000

Clinton clearly won the popular vote in Florida, with millions of Democrats voting, even if she doesn't get Florida's "electoral votes". She can and should be proud of that.

[Cleita]

7. Not all is lost. It gives the campaigns a better idea of

how Florida will vote in the general election.

[blm]

8. Ah well, Terry McAuliffe pushed this rule when he was head of the DNC and we've had

it all this time. I wonder why anyone would get agitated over something they accepted year after year?

Or is this a concocted controversy ginned up to cause a PERCEPTION that Dean is the villain and needs to be pushed out?

That's what it smells like to me.


After all, McAuliffe was adamant about this rule in 2003-4, wasn't he?

http://www.bostonphoenix.com/boston/news_features/talking_politics/documents/03263933.asp

[madfloridian]

14. Nobody got mad at Terry when the said MI votes would not be seated in Boston.

Not a single soul.

Think we are being played here?

I do.

[MrMickeysMom]

20. That's because they were all out looking for work...

They had no real TIME to be mad....

:sarcasm:

[beachmom]

35. Well, I'll be damned:

The Democratic National Committee (DNC), which has consistently defended that status for both states, has fought against the DC primary ever since Washington activists hatched the idea, in January, as a way to draw attention to the district’s lack of congressional representation. The DNC has pressured candidates to boycott the primary, and does not list it on its schedule of nominating events. A Washington Post editorial this month accused the DNC of "sabotaging" the primary by discouraging candidates from campaigning.

All in 2004, when Hillary's man Terry McAuliffe was heading the DNC.

Thanks for the link.

[blm]

37. Notice no Hillary supporters want to acknowledge this point?

.

[LisaM]

12. Florida and Michigan are both crucial states

but they got snubbed. I'm just waiting for the DNC to call me for money.

[suston96]

13. What bothers me is so called Democrats defending this repugnant vote suppression...

....by the Democratic Party - the votings rights champion of American voting rights history. I could understand Republicans doing this to Democrats, but Democrats trashing their own voters?

What a fucking disgrace.

[madfloridian]

15. It bothers me that people spout rhetoric about rules that have been in place.

Now all of sudden, rules are meant to be broken.

[mrmx9]

17. If the Dems do decide to seat Florida's delegates though there should be a re-vote

A lot of people who might have voted today didn't because they couldn't (some precincts didn't have Democratic ballots) or didn't think it mattered. Therefore there should be a re-vote if it is decided Florida's delegates can vote at the convention.

[cali]

18. this is not voter suppression. educate yourself.

And was the voter turnout big today? Yes? Then what's the problem? What reason do you have to believe that voters won't turn out in November to vote for the dem?

You're just upset because you're a Hill supporter and she doesn't get any delegates tonight.

[suston96]

26. Not counting votes cast by voters is voter suppression no matter how you spell it -

- and whatever you call it, it smells and it is Democrats doing this to Democrats - which Democrats here and elsewhere won't admit.

Rules, you say! Bullshit! Change the rules. Now!

2 million Democrats voted. 2 million votes don't count!

[blm]

21. Did you inform Terry McAuliffe of this? He put the rule in place and the states have

been agreeing to it every election since.

So....what did Terry McAuliffe tell you when you complained?

You do know where to reach him don't you?

[Coexist]

23. I am not a so-called Democrat, thank you.

and the state party fucked us.

They thought they could get away with it. The DNC gave them options. They played the "dad won't really punish me" stubborn, prideful, bullshit card.

And now we are in a time out for this primary.

boo fucking hoo.

I will survive.

Florida Democrats will survive. Lesson learned. Follow the rules. Just like in real-life.

[suston96]

28. Follow the rules? Yeah, just like American colonists did back then.....

... pay the taxes imposed by British Parliament. Follow the rules.

That what you mean?

[Coexist]

31. are you seriously equating the FDPs fuck-up with the Revolutionary War?

I am not going to converse with you on this anymore.

That was the reachiest of all reaches I have ever encountered.

:rofl:

[suston96]

33. I am crushed, crushed that you won't converse with me. I don't even know you.

It isn't the FDP it's the autocratic tyrannical DNC - the British Parliament - and there will be a fight because Democrats' voting rights have been abridged, in fact denied.

I am a retired voting rights activist and I can tell voting rights denial when I smell it.

[1awake]

25. It's bad that they won't be counted,

but at this point, it would be even worse if they were. It would make the primaries look like a "set-up".

[elixir]

30. How would it look like a set up? People voted.

[1awake]

32. because it would appear, or be made to appear as

Flor and Mich were used as pawns. I can here it now.. who's name was only on the ballet in Mich.. oh thats right.. Hillary.. how convenient. Oh and Florida you say?... All the candidates agreed not to campaign there.. except for Hillary who broke her promise.. and now it's going to get counted you say??

It may be a lie, and in the end it won't matter one bit. Perception is king in this land. People are going to say what I wrote is crap, and they'd be right. But it won't stop Hillary from being smeared in the GE. She already has the biggest handicap going for the Dem's.. we don't need another.

[jannyk]

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