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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-30-08 10:17 AM
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The spin from Mark "Blackwater" Penn

MEMO: A Significant Victory in Florida

by Mark Penn, Chief Strategistin News1/29/2008 9:19 PM

Hillary Clinton won a significant victory today in the Florida primary with the biggest turnout in Florida Democratic primary history. She will end up with more votes than John McCain, the winner of the Republican primary. And Floridians cast more votes than were cast in Iowa, Nevada, South Carolina, and New Hampshire combined.

A large, broad, and diverse group of voters came out and voted for Hillary in Florida. She won women, men, and just about every age category. She won 6 in 10 Latinos and nearly 3 in 10 African American voters.

The vote turned out to be far more than symbolic. Well over 1.5 million Democrats cast their ballots, more than twice the number of voters who came out to vote in the 2004 primary.

Most of the voters in Florida fully expect that their votes will not be wasted again -- they expect to have a voice at the convention, and Hillary has asked her delegates to support their being seated.

This result comes after Senator Obama ran TV commercials that reached Florida homes and after the enormous publicity he received for South Carolina and for the Ted Kennedy endorsement. The exit polls show widespread recognition of the endorsement -- but even so among those who decided on Election Day, a plurality of those chose Hillary.

But any momentum seemed to run out today -- among those who decided on Election Day, a plurality of those chose Hillary.


Hillary got 23% (little over 2 in 10) of the black vote.

Hillary tied Obama with:

ZERO Delegates

Also, no one knows how many people decided not to vote because they understood the rules that were in place until Hillary's last minute Calvinball play. Hillary supporters I'm sure got word from her campaign to go vote.

All-in-all, this is just a desperate campaign spinning a silver lining after a crushing defeat.

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ihelpu2see Donating Member (935 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-30-08 10:21 AM
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1. And MSNBC reported last night that the votes actually cast yesterday
were very close. The voters who voted early went for Hillary and they were voting over 1 month ago, those voters, at that point, not aware of the Clinton camps. eagerness to race-bait and try to divide SC by race and gender.


GO BAMA!!
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mod mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-30-08 10:27 AM
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3. Yes MSNBC really stressed this point.
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mod mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-30-08 10:27 AM
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2. WILL SOMEONE READ THIS '04 NYT ON PENN'S POLLING and tell me if I'm misinterpreting it:
In August, exit polling figured in a bitter fight in Venezuela over what amounted to competing landslides for and against a recall of the sitting president, Hugo Chávez, a socialist with ties to Fidel Castro.

The recall's proponents sponsored an exit poll, supervised by Penn, Schoen & Berland, an American firm whose clients have included Bill Clinton and Michael Bloomberg. Sometime before the polls closed on Aug. 15, Penn, Schoen reported that 59 percent of Venezuelan voters had said yes to throwing the president out of office.

A few hours later, the official count, by an election commission under Mr. Chávez's control, declared him the winner, with 58 percent of the total. Both the Organization of American States and the Carter Center, the Atlanta-based human rights organization founded by Jimmy Carter, said that their observers had seen no irregularities at the polls. In response to the exit poll, they called for a random audit at selected polling stations and again found nothing suspicious.

Mr. Schoen acknowledged in an interview that the poll's field workers were recruited by a group that helped organize the recall, but he said the volunteers had been trained to conduct the poll professionally, and that his firm would have no reason to put its reputation at risk by participating in a fraudulent poll. The recall's supporters continue to believe the election was stolen.

-snip

http://www.nytimes.com/2004/10/17/weekinreview/17plis.html?_r=2&fta=y&oref=slogin&oref=slogin

DIDN'T PSB GET CAUGHT DOING SOMETHING UNETHICAL FOR THEIR CLIENT?
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wndycty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-30-08 10:28 AM
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4. So Hillary lost 7 out of 10 Black votes?
LOL
:kick:
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CorpGovActivist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-30-08 10:40 AM
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5. Her Achilles Heel n/t
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