Obama To Rip Clinton For Siding With McCain On Iraq, Iran

[Renew Deal]

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/01/30/obama-to-rip-clinton-for-_n_84023.html

Obama will appear in Denver to speak on foreign policy. The Huffington Post has obtained excerpts from today's speech:

It's time for new leadership that understands that the way to win a debate with John McCain is not by nominating someone who agreed with him on voting for the war in Iraq; who agreed with him in voting to give George Bush the benefit of the doubt on Iran; who agrees with him in embracing the Bush-Cheney policy of not talking to leaders we don't like; and who actually differed with him by arguing for exceptions for torture before changing positions when the politics of the moment changed.

We need to offer the American people a clear contrast on national security, and when I am the nominee of the Democratic Party, that's exactly what I will do. Talking tough and tallying up your years in Washington is no substitute for judgment, and courage, and clear plans. It's not enough to say you'll be ready from Day One - you have to be right from Day One.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/01/30/obama-to-rip-clinton-for-_n_84023.html

[sunonmars]

1. Its the economy stupid

[Windy]

2. Good for him for going after her on this issue. This is my problem with her

there is no real difference between them on the economy and really, not difference, at least not a true significant difference between the dems and mccain on the economy based on his voting record.

The war with Iraq and the push for a war with Iran is the issue!!!

I encourage all dems to go to a Scott Ritter program with regard to Iran that I attended over the weekend. It will either open your eyes or solidfy your thinking on the issue and where the candidates stand.

[agdlp]

10. vote was not about a war on Iran- Iranian guard funds terrorism in Iraq killing American Soldiers

And you want your President to not take a stand because of politics...Seriously...the vote was not about a war on Iran..
Get your facts stright...

[agdlp]

3. Obama:9 absent Sentate National Security votes,inluded Iran and the Islamic Revolutionary Guard vote

10/16/2007 Commerce, Justice, Science, and Related Agencies Appropriations Act of 2008 NV
10/03/2007 Border Fence and Customs Appropriations NV
09/26/2007 Expressing the Sense of Congress Regarding Federalism in Iraq NV
09/26/2007 Expressing the Sense of Congress Regarding Iran and the Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps NV
07/26/2007 Implementing the 9/11 Commission Recommendations Act NV
07/26/2007 Department of Homeland Security Appropriations NV
07/26/2007 Border Fence and Customs Appropriations NV
07/26/2007 REAL ID Funding NV
07/19/2007 Sense of the Senate on Guantanamo Bay Detainees NV

[suston96]

4. Who was absent? Hillary or Barack?

[WinkyDink]

9. Obama.

[BenDavid]

5. The problem with obama is he is trying to fight something that

has already occured and I guess he will tell us all again for the ten thousand time he was against the war back in 2002.....That is the problem with obama, he is not dealing with the here and now.....

This is where IF and a big IF, if obama is the nominee McCain will tear obama a new asshole, and mccain cannot do that with HRC as the nominee...Now ain't ya glad she did not apologize for her vote....

[Renew Deal]

6. Are you kidding?

Hillary doesn't stand a chance vs. McCain. If people have a choice between a real republican and a fake one (Hillary), people will vote for the real one. And Hillary automatically loses the "experience" argument she's been pushing to McCain. She's set herself up. Obama offers people a choice.

[Tarc]

12. A choice of what?

An empty suit alternately promising "hope" for the future on one hand, then harping on the past with another?

[agdlp]

16. Choice by no votes, race swiftboating and flipp-flopping on issues

Yea..right..

[calmblueocean]

14. Whaaaa? No, I'm not "glad she did not apologize for her vote" and I don't think anyone else is

I would have a lot easier time supporting Hillary if she could bring herself to state, outright, as Edwards did, that she made a mistake in voting to go to war with Iraq.

P.S. The Iraq War is STILL GOING ON and people are dying every damn day. It's not some memory in the distant past, and when you pretend it is it makes lots of people furious.

[agdlp]

7. Pat Buchanan - McCain's vision for America is bad: McCain's Campaign Platform: "Less Jobs, More Wars

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x2791184


Posted by Faiz Shakir, Think Progress at 5:24 AM on January 30, 2008.

Even Pat Buchanan thinks McCain's vision for America is foreboding.


During the coverage of this evening's Florida primary results, MSNBC's Joe Scarborough discussed the impact of John McCain's victory with Pat Buchanan. The Republican establishment will rally around McCain and say "he's the guy," Buchanan said, but he cautioned that McCain's vision for America was foreboding.

"What does he say? The jobs are never coming back, the illegals are never going home, but we're gonna have a lot more wars," Buchanan said of McCain. Scarborough remarked that McCain's "inviting" presidential platform for the fall consists of "less jobs and more wars":

BUCHANAN: Here's a guy, basically, what does he say? The jobs are never coming back, the illegals are never going home, but we're gonna have a lot more wars.

SCARBOROUGH: We're gonna start a lot of wars! He has promised, for the record Keith, John McCain's platform -- and it certainly looks inviting for the fall -- he has promised less jobs and more wars. Now that's something we can all rally behind.

While campaigning in Michigan earlier this month, McCain said some Michigan industries cannot be resurrected. "I've got to give you some straight talk: Some of the jobs that have left the state of Michigan are not coming back," he said.

And just this weekend, McCain told a crowd of supporters, "There's going to be other wars. ... I'm sorry to tell you, there's going to be other wars. We will never surrender but there will be other wars."


UPDATE: Matthew Yglesias writes, "Oddly, though, McCain keeps picking up the votes of Republican primary voters disgruntled with the Iraq War despite being, in reality, the candidate most fanatically devoted to the cause." More here.

http://www.alternet.org/blogs/peek/75421 /

[calmblueocean]

15. Hee hee! We've got our first campaign slogan! "Less jobs. More wars. McCain!"

It's funny because it's true.

[WinkyDink]

8. "voting for the war in Iraq"? This was the result, yes, but not what the actual vote was for.

[Orsino]

13. Let's bust Clinton instead for sitting back...

...while * utterly ignored the so-called requirements for the use of force in Iraq. Whether there was a nod and wink there, we'll never know, but Clinton assisted in her own way.

[sunonmars]

11. This line of attack is useless now, people aretalking economy.