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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-30-08 12:57 PM
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Fellow Edwards supporters, my advice: vote for him anyway.
One word: delegates.
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MrCoffee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-30-08 12:58 PM
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1. Oh hell yes
I get to caucus for the first time in my life here in WA, and have no idea what the hell i'm doing. I guess I can go uncommitted.
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-30-08 01:00 PM
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4. It's gonna be rough... I'm sure the other candidates' supporters
will be banging hard on all of Edwards' supporters to change... but the idea now is not to win... but to get delegates.

If what I'm reading here is true, he's holding them till the convention. This is our last bargaining chip left.
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MrCoffee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-30-08 01:03 PM
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9. I certainly won't caucus for Tweedledee or Tweedledum.
I have to read up on the WA caucus process, but my understanding so far is that you sign in when you arrive and state who you're voting for. At that point you can declare yourself to be uncommitted, and the written vote is what's counted.

I think. I'm brand new to this, so I have to study up.
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Ninga Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-30-08 12:58 PM
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2. YES !!
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flyarm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-30-08 12:59 PM
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3. you bet!!! vote your candidate and vote your heart..and don't let the bullshit artists
Edited on Wed Jan-30-08 01:01 PM by flyarm
sway you..vote for John if you want to ..you vote your heart in a primary!

fly

p.s. i will vote JRE in november in a write in!..i will never drink the obama hillary kool aide.
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ClassWarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-30-08 01:00 PM
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5. Delegates.
:thumbsup:

NGU.


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goodhue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-30-08 01:00 PM
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6. Yes, but please be aware you need to clear 15% per congressional district
in order to secure any delegates
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-30-08 01:02 PM
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8. Exactly.
Which is why it's so important that as many Edwards supporters as possible stick to their guns. :)
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dragonlady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-31-08 01:19 AM
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48. I've been eagerly awaiting the chance to vote for Edwards, but
I have to face the fact that most of the Edwards supporters out there don't read DU and won't know that there's a plan afoot to vote for him anyway and hope to get him 15% per district. They'll make a choice between the other two, or stay home, or do whatever else may be available, like voting uncommitted. If I voted for him, as my heart would choose, it wouldn't make any real difference except to make me feel better. At this point, as John would say, it's not about me. It's about who has the better chance to win in November and is more likely to deliver what I prefer on the issues. So I'm going with Obama. (But I'll still keep a little thought buried far back in my mind that anything can happen in the next several months, and maybe the suspended campaign will be revived.)
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LittleClarkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-30-08 01:01 PM
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7. Oh, good point.
He'll still have power in the convention, and so could sway the platform.
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trueblue2007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-30-08 01:03 PM
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10. We need to fight the causes we believe in.
yuck....who will he endorse?

He has been running against both of them.

I hope Elizabeth's health isn't worse. I just hope he doesn't quit.
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LittleClarkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-30-08 01:07 PM
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12. I hope he has a place in the next Dem administration
Just as I hope the same for Kerry.
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SammyWinstonJack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-30-08 01:04 PM
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11. I will.
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hfojvt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-30-08 01:07 PM
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13. at least if you are not in a "winner take all" state
I think it is disgusting that some states are "winner take all" although that hurt Romney in Florida. McCain won with 36% of the vote and gets all the delegates. Basically means the votes of the 64% didn't count.

I plan to caucus for him in the first round, just to see how he does, then I am likely to caucus for Obama. We Irish have to stick together after all. Plus I have long been HHH and ABC.

I called both of their Senate offices asking them to put LIHEAP, unemployment and food stamps into the stimulus package. We will see who does a better job on that.
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-30-08 01:09 PM
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14. Good point...
:hi:
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NoPasaran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-30-08 01:55 PM
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27. There are NO Democratic winner-take all states
Winner take all was abolished after 1972 as part of the McGovern reforms. Ironically, the last candidate to win a WTA Democratic primary was George McGovern, whose June 1972 victory in California provoked a bitter floor fight over the delegation at the national convention that year.

By all means, caucus for Edwards if you wish. I voted for Dean four years ago long after that ship had sailed.
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-30-08 02:10 PM
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34. HAH! Thank you!
:hi:
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Fox Mulder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-30-08 01:11 PM
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15. I'm still going to vote for Edwards.
There's no way I'm changing over to Hillary or Obama.
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SammyWinstonJack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-30-08 02:21 PM
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41. ...
:thumbsup:
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Hell Hath No Fury Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-30-08 01:13 PM
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16. Agree with you completely.
It also sends a clear message to the party and the remaining candidates that what you have been left with is unacceptable.
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-30-08 01:25 PM
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17. Another good point...
Thanks. :)
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texas1928 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-30-08 01:27 PM
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18. I wish he would not.
Talking to a friend of mine who is apart of the Democratic committee here, he says a lot of people here in Lubbock who voted for Bush for two years running are talking of voting for Edwards. I wish he would stay in. His message was starting to get some steam. And really think he could have pulled it out.
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-30-08 01:32 PM
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19. He could have built up steam. I'm positive that's why this is happening now.
Edited on Wed Jan-30-08 01:35 PM by redqueen
The huge ad buy in the super Tuesday states... the great numbers in OK...

Nothing else makes a lick of sense.

Sad, but hardly shocking.

Did you see this? "Who's afraid of John Edwards?"
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x4285825

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x4286520




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texas1928 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-30-08 01:40 PM
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20. Yeah I read it...
And the MSM likes a good fight, and Hillary and Obama provided that, Edwards tried to stay away from it. So they did not give him a second look because he was not providing enough dirt for them to report on. They want dirt. They don't want a sound, common sense message that Edwards was running on. Hillary and Obama need to wake up, this back biting and fighting is not helping us. If they keep it up people are going to start looking at the Repukes again. And we see what their candidates are preaching, 4 more years of the same Bush bull. Our country can not take 4 more years of that.
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flyarm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-30-08 01:42 PM
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21. understand this..the fix was in in Fla yesterday..do not for a minute think it wasn't.
they kept his count to 14.4 % yesterday..so he would not be eligible for a delegate in Fla..don't think it was an accident.

don't think that for a moment.

Vote for John and show these mtf'ers that you get it!!

fly..a 2004 dem delegate for FLa
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Yael Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-30-08 02:00 PM
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29. Are they going through with this?
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-30-08 02:02 PM
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31. The ad buy?
What are you referring to?
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Yael Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-30-08 02:12 PM
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35. Yes -- I am confused
Are they going forward with the ad buy or cancelling it?

It would be one way to get the message out.
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-30-08 02:14 PM
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37. No idea...
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iris5426 Donating Member (697 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-30-08 02:01 PM
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30. It really doesn't, not even a little bit...
I think that's why I feel so dazed.
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judaspriestess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-30-08 01:42 PM
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22. Yes please do
vote for John
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IndianaJones Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-30-08 01:43 PM
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23. a positive attitude is certainly refreshing...
people are posting like the man is dead or something.
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-30-08 01:44 PM
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25. Hah... well it was quite a shock...
he just did a huge ad buy... super Tuesday's around the corner...

It's crazytime.
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ecstatic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-30-08 01:43 PM
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24. I don't get it. Why not decide exactly where you want your delegates to go
Why put someone else in charge?
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-30-08 01:47 PM
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26. Becuase although Hillary is closer to John on policy, and therefore
Edited on Wed Jan-30-08 01:47 PM by redqueen
otherwise I'd throw my support to her... I'd rather keep my voice where it is - firmly behind John Edwards.
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FlyingSquirrel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-30-08 02:13 PM
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36. Maybe that's where they DO want their delegates to go!
:)
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Yael Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-30-08 01:57 PM
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28. If he can maintain 15% while not campaigning in a "suspended campaign"
they will need to rename "grassroots" to "Edwardsroots".

:rofl:
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Carni Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-30-08 02:04 PM
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32. You gotta do what you gotta do!
I would vote your conscience!
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mrgorth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-30-08 02:08 PM
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33. Hey
I voted for Dean in PA. Of course that was a wasted vote. If you can make a difference you should.
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vanbean Donating Member (957 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-30-08 02:18 PM
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38. I made up my mind, I'm voting Edwards!!!!!!!!
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Kota Donating Member (658 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-30-08 02:19 PM
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39. I'll still vote for him.
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smokey nj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-30-08 02:19 PM
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40. John has my vote on Feb. 5.
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-30-08 02:45 PM
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42. Glad to hear it.
:hi:
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lisainmilo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-30-08 02:48 PM
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43. I will be...thanks queen!
He is the only one for me!
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enlightenment Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-30-08 02:54 PM
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44. Noticed your "psst" RedQueen!
Unfortunately, my choice was already shut out of my precinct caucus (Las Vegas NV).

sigh.
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MissDeeds Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-30-08 02:59 PM
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45. Will do
in the primary and the GE. :patriot:
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-30-08 03:10 PM
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46. Not in the GE!
Not unless you prefer a repuke to a Dem in the WH.
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snagglepuss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-30-08 04:40 PM
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47. k & r
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