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gaiilonfong Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-30-08 03:53 PM
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Mudcat: Clintons no friend of rural America
http://ruralvotes.com/thefield/?p=385

I can’t speak for John. I can say this that, you know, being a southerner, being a rural American who’s been completely devastated by the trade policies of the Clintons, I’m going to do everything in my power to make sure that he does not endorse Hillary Clinton…

I got off the phone with (John) this morning and, heck, I talked to him longer than usual. I think today John is really interested in making sure that his staff is okay because, you know, there are a lot of passionate people on this staff. But, you know, I can’t speak for John. I can say this that, you know, being a southerner, being a rural American who’s been completely devastated by the trade policies of the Clintons, I’m going to do everything in my power to make sure that he does not endorse Hillary Clinton…
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Deep13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-30-08 03:59 PM
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1. I'm unaware how NAFTA has hurt rural areas.
Perhaps you could tell me, because I really have not heard that before.
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countryjake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-30-08 04:12 PM
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2. Read...
Down on the Farm: NAFTA's Seven-Years War on Farmers and Ranchers in the U.S., Canada and Mexico

DWINDLING INCOMES FOR SMALL FARMERS IN THE U.S., CANADA AND MEXICO, LOST FARMS AND RURAL CRISIS IS NAFTA'S LEGACY

http://www.citizen.org/publications/release.cfm?ID=6788

~snip~

EXECUTIVE SUMMARY:
In the summer of 2001, family farmers and ranchers throughout North America are struggling.

During the 1993 debate over the fate of the North American Free Trade Agreement (NAFTA), U.S. farmers and ranchers were promised that NAFTA would provide access to new export markets and thus would finally bring a lasting solution to farmers' off-and-on struggles for economic success.

Now, seven years later, the evidence shows farm income has declined, consumer prices have risen and some giant agribusinesses have reaped huge profits. These outcomes are defining the growing national debates over President Bush's proposals to establish Fast Track trade authority and to expand NAFTA through the Free Trade Area of the Americas (FTAA).

This report reveals the basis for farmers' concern about NAFTA and its model of export-oriented agriculture. For the past seven years, Midwestern and Plains states wheat farmers; ranchers in Montana, Texas and other states; vegetable, flower and fruit growers in California; lumber mill owners in Louisiana, Arkansas and Washington; vegetable growers in Florida; chicken farmers nationwide and others have suffered declining commodity prices and farm income while a flood of NAFTA imports outpaced U.S. exports to Canada and Mexico.

Yet it was not farmers in Mexico or Canada who benefited from U.S. farmers' woes. Millions of campesinos throughout Mexico have lost a significant source of income and left their small corn farms. Some became farm laborers working in squalid conditions for poverty wages on large plantations growing produce for export to the U.S. Others moved to Mexico's cities where unemployment is high. Canadian grain and dairy farmers also face steeply rising debt during the NAFTA era. This report also documents the rise in Mexican staple food prices, such as in tortilla prices, even as the price paid to Mexican corn farmers dropped 48%.

However, NAFTA has brought seven years of good fortune to many of the agribusinesses that pressured Washington, Ottawa and Mexico City to negotiate and ratify NAFTA's corporate- managed trade terms. Since NAFTA stripped away many safeguards for the folks who produce raw agricultural products, relative power and leverage has grown for large agribusiness conglomerates to exert pressure on both farmers and consumers...

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Deep13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-30-08 04:22 PM
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4. Yeah, that's bad.
:(
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madrchsod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-30-08 04:27 PM
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5. that is why we have millions more mexican and central americans
coming to this country. they have to come here so there family do not starve back home. that is why i do not get upset about the "illegals" in this country.we did it and we do not want to accept the responsibility.
will hillary or barrack reverse this disastrous policy...i think not
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-30-08 04:30 PM
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6. Senator Clinton said she would make changes in NAFTA in the last debate.
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madrchsod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-30-08 05:19 PM
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8. the devil is in the details
i don`t expect radical changes but dam how about protecting the usa.
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martymar64 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-30-08 05:44 PM
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10. Money talks bullshit walks
I wouldn't believe a word she says. She'll do only what her corporate paymasters in the dlc and the chamber of commerce tell her to do .
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ulysses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-30-08 05:59 PM
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11. such as what, I wonder...
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madrchsod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-30-08 04:22 PM
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3. it`s everywhere
drive out through the rural areas and you`ll see small factories that appear that they were built not that long ago and they are closed. it`s just not the large employeers in the cities,it`s the small guy with a dream and some workers that believe in him. but when the chinese undercut his price there`s nothing he can do. i`m not going to put all the blame on china..walmart and the big box stores has contributed to the decline..
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stillcool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-30-08 04:30 PM
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7. Little off topic...
but I came across an interesting article from back in the day, and was surprised once again, by my own ignorance at how closely related NAFTA is with immigration. I've always known the US made the problem of out-sourcing jobs, but I didn't realize how directly immigration was involved.
THREE YEARS OF NAFTA:
ENOUGH IS ENOUGH !
by Scott Cooper
http://www.thirdworldtraveler.com/Economics/ThreeYears_NAFTA.html

and then there's the 'welfare to work' thing, which I'm sure has contributed to all kinds of social problems. Things sure look different with the internets.
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-30-08 05:34 PM
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9. Real estate market in Mexico is fucking booming.
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Winterblues Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-30-08 06:30 PM
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12. Why is this thread allowed here?
This poster is on a Clinton bashing mission. the only thing they post is Clinton bashing and I am sick of it...
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