I wish Ron Paul wasn't a racist homophobic crazoid

[Richardo]

His monologue on Iraq was worthy of the most anti-war Dem.

Don't worry, I'm not a Paulist. It's just amazing that he's even allowed to participate in a GOP debate.

[aquart]

1. I know. Most of us wish that.

Not all, however.

[amborin]

2. agreed

[fenriswolf]

3. i agree

politics aside. I understand his economics pretty well but think he went about presenting himself all wrong. His forign policy was spot on. Just wish he wasn't so pro free market and such a racist.

[Hill_YesWeWill]

29. Not to mention anti-abortion! he would never have gotten this far

as a democratic candidate.

[Occam Bandage]

4. I'm glad he is.

It keeps people from supporting his utterly suicidal economic and domestic policies.

[PeaceNikki]

5. There's also the whole "New World Order" thing. He's certifiable.

His opposition to the Iraq war is built on this same shoddy foundation of far-right conspiracism and extremist belief systems, particularly long-debunked theories about the "New World Order," the Federal Reserve and our monetary system, the IRS, and the education system.

[Richardo]

9. Don't get me wrong - I find nothing to applaud him on except his Iraq policy

I just came in in the middle of his monologue and heard some common sense. Last thing I expected in a GOP debate.

[PeaceNikki]

11. I know. I know. I understand viscerally the charm of Paul's message.

Who wouldn't be charmed? He's anti-war, anti-torture, anti-drug war, and anti-corporation -- a real progressive dream date.

Until you reflect on the fact that he's also anti-choice, anti-gay, anti-environment, anti-sane immigration policy, and anti-separation of church and state as well.

[Richardo]

12. ;-)

:patriot:

[Blue-Jay]

6. He's on the right side of exactly ONE thing.

Maybe two, if you count the War On Drugs. But even with that, he's right for the wrong reasons.

[izzybeans]

7. I wish he didn't hate the American Political system of government as well.

But that goes hand in hand with his racist homophobic crazoidness.

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

8. He's probably full of shit about Iraq too.

I doubt he gives a shit about the troops and is just saying it because it's what people want to here.

[mtnsnake]

17. Who cares. At least he's broadcasting the truth about Iraq & thats refreshing to hear

[lastliberalintexas]

31. Paul actually voted against the IWR

Just because he's a nutcase doesn't mean he wasn't correct about that issue from the very beginning.

Of course, he was and is right for the wrong reasons, but he did oppose the Iraq war from the beginning.

[toadzilla]

10. well his whole wanting to dismantle most of the goverment schtick doesnt fly with me either.

but he is right about the war, and about the fed. i appreciate his voice on those issues.

[Raine]

13. Yeah cause he is really entertaining and

personable but unfortunately he's nutz.

[Richardo]

15. Same as Huckabee

He's got a great personality, but... theocratic jerk.

[New Dawn]

14. Support Mike Gravel!

He is still in the race and opposes the occupation of Iraq and war against Iran.

http://www.gravel2008.us/issues

[mdmc]

16. I just saw that too

:patriot:

[MonkeyFunk]

18. He's right on one issue

wrong on all the others.

I don't get the admiration so many here have for him.

[PeaceNikki]

19. It's frightening!!

Here's something I send to all of my progressive friends who are suckered into his few seemingly progressive ideas:
http://dneiwert.blogspot.com/2007/06/trouble-with-ron.html

<snip>

If America ever becomes a fascist state, it will be Ron Paul's long-time followers who bring it about. And we -- progressives, miniorities, feminists, gays, "intellectuals," and Jews like Maher and Stewart -- with be the first ones to feel their genocidal rage. We cannot overlook his long association with far-right extremists just because he agrees with us that the war is wrong and pot should be legal. If Bush has taught us anything, it's that we need to hold ourselves and our candidates to much higher standards than that. What we choose to overlook now, we will live to regret later.

[lastliberalintexas]

32. He's correct on MANY issues involving civil liberties

Still a nutcase, though.

[PeaceNikki]

33. Unless you're black. Or Brown. Or Gay. Or a woman.

:eyes:

[lastliberalintexas]

34. Why the eyes?

I said the guy is a nut. But you can't deny that he is on the right side of a number of issues, especially if they concern individual rights. Huckabee is correct on trade and some other economic issues, but he's still a Dominionist jackass. :shrug:

[PeaceNikki]

36. I apologize for the snark. But, he's not a friend to minorities. And I get very upset when liberals

defend him at all.

He's against affirmitive action. Against amnesty. Against stem cell research. Wants to end funding for organizations that promote abortion. Rated 0% by NARAL. Voted for Tax-credited programs for Christian schooling. Voted to BAN GAY ADOPTIONS. Wants to end preferential treatment by race in college admissions. Voted NO on increasing minimum wage. And he's all about pushing regressive taxes.


He's not worthy of any defense.

[doc03]

20. He may be a nut case but he

is the most sane Republican of the bunch.

[PeaceNikki]

21. You need to study up on him. He's not. He's an extremist.

He's insane.

http://dneiwert.blogspot.com/2007/06/ron-paul-vs-new-world-order.html

[doc03]

22. Compared with McCain, Romney and Huckleberry

he is sane.

[PeaceNikki]

23. I still beg to differ. They all suck, but Ron Paul is the biggest of the bunch

1) He’s content to let genocide, wars of aggression, and human rights violations occur abroad with nothing more than a “moral statement” from the U.S.

2) Ron Paul wants to end all paper money and revert to a monetary system based on gold, which would make our nation the only government in the world to use the Gold Standard.

3) Ron Paul believes that neither the federal government nor the state government should prohibit prayer in public schools. Does this mean I can paste pictures of Vishnu all along school walls? Should teachers now allow statues of the Buddha outside the school? I wonder how long it takes until Jesus is our new national mascot.

4) Ron Paul wants to eliminate the IRS and the income tax. Sounds great right? Well, so does free ice cream and new cars for everyone, but that doesn't mean they're realistic ideas. The US. government needs money, and if you abolish the income tax, they're going to take it by other means. Only instead of taking fair amounts from people based on how much they make, the government is going to increase the sales tax. In case you weren't following, this means Ron Paul's plans will benefit the rich. Please don't shoot yourselves in the foot, don't vote for a man who only wants to help the rich. He just wants to greaten the divide between the poor and the rich, which is already overwhelming. By the way, he also wants to eliminate the departments of education, energy, homeland security, and emergency management. We're struggling to bring order to our chaotic nation as it is, don't hinder our efforts by destroying the government. Ron Paul is either an unrealistic crazy idealist or another corrupted politician. Either way, I'm not voting for him, no matter how much his internet supporters spam his name.

[bidenista]

24. re: tax

Paul is a superduperlibertarian, so I'm guessing abolishing the IRS would go with scrapping most of government. No need for alternative revenues, but not an outcome most Dems would be too thrilled about anyhow.

His war rant was the only engaging point of the debate, IMO. It's on Youtube:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fhAokoMgSDc

[PeaceNikki]

25. I'm not interested in watching him. He's poison and very dangerous.

It's really easy to to charmed and googly-eyed by his stance on the war, but he comes from a very dark place. His progressive sounding ideas are rooted in very extremist right-wing ideals.

[bidenista]

26. then don't watch.

Very dangerous? I don't think so, given his chances of election are nil.

[PeaceNikki]

27. K, I won't.

[bidenista]

28. but i get the last word. neener neener. nt

[Blue-Jay]

30. nyah.

[bidenista]

35. uh-uh. it's MINE. NT