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KittyWampus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-31-08 12:29 AM
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Have the Clinton's released their tax return? If not, why not?
Edited on Thu Jan-31-08 12:35 AM by cryingshame
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KittyWampus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-31-08 12:36 AM
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1. Hello? Anyone? There are so many rapid Hillary defenders here.
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-31-08 12:37 AM
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3. I am waiting too!
:hi:
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KittyWampus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-31-08 12:39 AM
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5. maybe the Hillary supporters are smart enough to not reply so thread will sink?
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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-31-08 12:36 AM
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2. who cares.
One thing on the Clinton sides (and I have been highly critical on other points) is from a financial point of view they are the most heavily audited couple in the history of civilizaiton.

Ken Starr spent $ 60 million checking every aspect of their financial background.

Please if you have something of substance post it. We don't need to go fishing. We are better than this.
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KittyWampus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-31-08 12:38 AM
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4. it's called vetting. And Ken Starr was before YEARS before the Clinton Library and this latest crap
Edited on Thu Jan-31-08 12:41 AM by cryingshame
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agdlp Donating Member (363 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-31-08 12:43 AM
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6. Presidential Candidates Defy Tradition, Refuse to Release Taxes
http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/Story?id=3165953

Since Watergate, Only Clinton Refused to Release Income Information

Former Sen. John Edwards, D-N.C.,worked for a hedge fund while heading a poverty center in between his presidential campaigns. But since he isn't telling, voters can't know how much money he earned.

Former Gov. Mitt Romney, R-Mass., says his wife, Ann, once donated to Planned Parenthood, but that he never contributed to an abortion-rights group himself. But there's no way for the media and the public to check that claim

a break with the tradition of recent presidential campaigns, most of the major presidential candidates aren't releasing their income-tax filings.

Edwards has indicated that he will keep his tax returns private, and while Romney is still considering his options, he has never released his returns in previous runs for office.

Sens. John McCain, R-Ariz., and Hillary Rodham Clinton, D-N.Y., aren't saying whether they will or not, but neither has released income tax forms filed this year.

That means voters are likely to know less about the income sources, personal wealth and charitable inclinations of the presidential candidates than in any election in the past generation.

"When you run for president, you really have to open yourself up to the American people," said Mary Boyle, a spokeswoman for Common Cause, a government watchdog group. "If you're asking voters of this country to elect you as president, it's reasonable and rational that your tax returns are made public."


Tax Release Common Post-Watergate
The release of candidates' tax forms has become common practice in presidential campaigns since the Watergate era of the early '70s.

Since 1984, only one major-party presidential candidate -- Bill Clinton in 1992 -- has refused to release the tax forms he sent to the Internal Revenue Service.

In 1996, Clinton did release his forms, and Republican nominee Bob Dole released his tax returns going back 30 years.

Candidates, including 2004 Democratic presidential nominee John Kerry in 2004, and Democratic vice presidential candidate Geraldine Ferraro in 1984, were criticized for not releasing their spouses' returns but offered no resistance to releasing their own.

a break with the tradition of recent presidential campaigns, most of the major presidential candidates aren't releasing their income-tax filings.

Edwards has indicated that he will keep his tax returns private, and while Romney is still considering his options, he has never released his returns in previous runs for office.

Sens. John McCain, R-Ariz., and Hillary Rodham Clinton, D-N.Y., aren't saying whether they will or not, but neither has released income tax forms filed this year.

That means voters are likely to know less about the income sources, personal wealth and charitable inclinations of the presidential candidates than in any election in the past generation.

"When you run for president, you really have to open yourself up to the American people," said Mary Boyle, a spokeswoman for Common Cause, a government watchdog group. "If you're asking voters of this country to elect you as president, it's reasonable and rational that your tax returns are made public."


Tax Release Common Post-Watergate
The release of candidates' tax forms has become common practice in presidential campaigns since the Watergate era of the early '70s.

Since 1984, only one major-party presidential candidate -- Bill Clinton in 1992 -- has refused to release the tax forms he sent to the Internal Revenue Service.

In 1996, Clinton did release his forms, and Republican nominee Bob Dole released his tax returns going back 30 years.

Candidates, including 2004 Democratic presidential nominee John Kerry in 2004, and Democratic vice presidential candidate Geraldine Ferraro in 1984, were criticized for not releasing their spouses' returns but offered no resistance to releasing their own.

Full Disclosure Not Required
The candidates who keep their returns private generally note they are complying with all federal regulations with regard to financial disclosures.

The candidates are required to submit standard financial disclosure forms -- due next week -- similar to those filed by all members of Congress, stating their income sources and investment holdings in broad financial categories.

"We will comply with all the personal financial disclosure procedures required by the Federal Election Commission," said Kevin Madden, a Romney spokesman.

Madden said no final decision had been made as to whether Romney would release his tax returns, but he did not release them during his 1994 run for the U.S. Senate or his 2002 run for governor.

The financial disclosure forms are designed to provide "protection against potential conflicts of interest," said Fred Wertheimer, president of Democracy 21, a nonpartisan group that promotes openness in government.

They are not, however, audited by the government, leaving the possibility of candidates filing incomplete or inaccurate documents.

In any event, the financial disclosure documents provide only a fraction of the information available on tax returns. They do not track charitable donations, gift-giving or stock transactions.

Candidates do not have to reveal the value of their mortgages, or deductions such as medical expenses, which can reveal chronic health conditions or ongoing medical treatments.

Only tax forms would reveal whether a wealthy candidate -- many of the 2008 candidates are multimillionaires -- have used loopholes to duck taxes.

And while candidates do have to describe their sources of income, they do so only in broad categories.

For instance, when Edwards revealed how much he was paid for his year-long stint consulting for the Fortress Investment Group, he can give a rough estimate -- between $50,001 and $100,000, or between $100,001 and $1 million, for example.

Joseph J. Thorndike, a historian and contributing editor for Tax Analysts, a nonpartisan group, acknowledged that privacy concerns may push candidates to keep their tax returns private.

But releasing one's forms, he said, demonstrates that a candidate "shows trust and respect for the office," he said.

In short, Thorndike said, the tax return tells "a lot about your life."

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KittyWampus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-31-08 12:46 AM
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10. thanks, my google-fu is weak tonight.
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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-31-08 12:56 AM
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12. their personal tax records have nothing to do with the library.


If your OP raised the question on the library i would have agreed personal tax returns is a waste of time.
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suston96 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-31-08 12:43 AM
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7. Which tax returns? Not due until April 15.
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-31-08 12:45 AM
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8. 2006 which was due in 2007......on October 15th at the latest with extensions!
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KittyWampus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-31-08 12:45 AM
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9. this past year. someone just posted they have not.
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suston96 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-31-08 12:52 AM
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11. Have any other candidates released their tax returns?
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