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Sean Stuart Donating Member (127 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-31-08 12:20 PM
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EDWARDS 2012
The best candidate of either party is now out of the running. For me, Edwards was the kind of Old School Democrat that we desperately need again. He spoke of class issues in a time when mentioning the subject earns you laughter from the mainstream media (that is, the wealthy-owned mainstream media). He brought up subjects that are not permitted in the news that concern the working class and the poor, and of course those homeless veterans whom O'Reilly claims do not exist. And that really hits the heart of it: The things Edwards spoke of were highly inconvenient because the elite class wants to pretend that they don't exist and will squash anyone who has the audacity to mention them. This country is living in a Fox News fantasy world where all Americans are comfortable, where the only people who are poor are those who refuse to work, where tax cuts for the rich help everyone, where we have the greatest healthcare in the world, where the surge is working, and where soldiers return home to a ticker tape parade to live happily ever after around a bountiful dinner table on farm in Norman Rockwell's America. Keep campaigning, John, because, God willing, you're not done.

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Colobo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-31-08 12:22 PM
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1. So you want America to endure 4 more years of Republicanism?
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Sean Stuart Donating Member (127 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-31-08 12:25 PM
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3. Your reply makes absolutely no sense whatsoever.
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avaistheone1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-31-08 12:26 PM
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4. We're probably going to get it anyways.
Either from a bonafide Republican or a Republican-lites.

Is there really that much difference?
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Sean Stuart Donating Member (127 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-31-08 12:31 PM
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6. I think there's a difference, but the idea of Democratic inevitibility is way off
If Hillary wins the nomination, she's likely to stick with the DLC's patented impossible-to-win strategy of triangulation which has NEVER worked. It only worked for Bill because he had the benefit of Ross Perot. I am seriously afraid if she's our candidate - not as much for her policies as much as for her strategy. I think it likely that if she gets the nomination, the "inevitable" Democratic win in November will end up looking like the "inevitable" Hillary win in Iowa.
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Tesha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-31-08 12:59 PM
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8. "Want" may have nothing to do with what we "get". (NT)
Edited on Thu Jan-31-08 12:59 PM by Tesha
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PresidentObama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-31-08 12:25 PM
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2. I hope we elect a Democrat in 2008, and they have Edwards involved in their White House.
I'm sure John Edwards has had his fair share of campaigning for now!
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fasttense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-31-08 12:28 PM
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5. The corporate media has bought off on this fantasy.
They actually portray the race for a new president as if the republicans have a chance in hell. They don't. Just wait until the economy degrades into a bigger mess.

"This country is living in a Fox News fantasy". And the corporate media is promoting it.
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PATRICK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-31-08 12:58 PM
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7. The charade can end.
Good point. They have a number of significant failures and defeats, nt the least of which is brutally killing journalistic skills in the pursuit of entertaining propaganda. They cannibalize their own newsrooms out of fear they actually may be reporting the real dismal picture of their pals. they lose viewers and ads to the truth every day.

Forget the third rail of politics. Economic hard times is the onrushing train for any party. Guiliani down. Romney-Bush fading and fuming. The trip to the ME and permission for war, money for propping---a humiliation. The seeds of a mega 2006 are planted deeper than the known Rove plans for this fall. Looking at the bright side the fixed victory states are probably surer this time. Battle can be extended.

If Bloomberg steps in he is patsy and no Ross perot. Likely he will be mush, another old man and the GOP pundits will have just another hapless foil to try to half-heartedly fawn over. At least it will be one way to get them pumping money back into the economy. A trillion wasted GOP corporate dollars against the inevitable should do nicely.

Seize the initiative and make it so. All they have is fantasy and being unopposed.
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