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Orwellian_Ghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-31-08 11:30 PM
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Single Payer Healthcare- Immediate withdrawal of all US troops and...
Anybody hear anything like a little straight talk about such things at the D-Bate tonight?

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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-31-08 11:31 PM
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1. We go to vote with the candidates we have.
Never the candidates we wish we had.
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Orwellian_Ghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-31-08 11:34 PM
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3. Why is that?
And how do we get beyond that?

Resignation is not the foundation of a movement.

Time is running out.
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-01-08 12:04 AM
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6. A movement?
This is a democracy. It respects many opinions. Whoever can appeal to the most people, will win. To people who hold only one opinion, how can they support that? It would be impure.

Our candidates have to satisfy many different interests and concerns. It makes them seem...like whores.

A movement only satisfies one set of concerns. The leader of a movement therefore looks pure. And clean. And worthy.

I'm going with the whores.

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Orwellian_Ghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-01-08 12:49 AM
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14. Correction
Corporatocracy

That's what we got.

You may want to re-examine what you think of as movements. Start with MLK Jr.
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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-31-08 11:33 PM
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2. I don't understand why ANY of the candidates, other than Dennis and Gravel,
won't even consider a single payer health care system. Can anyone enlighten me? Beyond the "corporate whores" reply.



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Kat45 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-31-08 11:34 PM
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4. They don't want to lose their jobs and/or their own good health plans?
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eridani Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-01-08 12:08 AM
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8. Gravel is not for single payer--he's behind the voucher bullshit n/t
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avaistheone1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-01-08 12:09 AM
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9. Look at how many health insurance interests have given to both Hillary and Obama's campaigns.
I think you will find your answer.
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eridani Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-01-08 12:09 AM
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11. No shit, Sherlock n/t
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eridani Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-01-08 12:09 AM
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12. No shit, Sherlock n/t
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eridani Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-01-08 12:09 AM
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13. No shit, Sherlock n/t
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leftstreet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-01-08 12:04 AM
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5. K&R
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-01-08 12:07 AM
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7. I want a pony. n/t
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eridani Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-01-08 12:09 AM
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10. You'll never get a kitten unless you keep asking for a pony n/t
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