BayouBengal07
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Fri Feb-01-08 12:23 AM
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Chuck Todd on Olberman says a Hillary candidacy is a gift to McCain |
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Edited on Fri Feb-01-08 12:26 AM by BayouBengal07
He said "all McCain's problems are solved" with a Clinton nomination because he could keep the Big Tent Independents and Religious Right elements of the GOP together while the rally to vote against her.
Yes? No?
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Fri Feb-01-08 12:26 AM
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1. I would have to agree with this |
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Fri Feb-01-08 11:38 AM
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Independents will not vote for Hillary regardless of who she chooses for her running mate.
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Eric J in MN
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Fri Feb-01-08 12:28 AM
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2. The Republicans will also demonize Obama if he's the nominee. |
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With Hillary Clinton, at least people feel they know her.
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Fri Feb-01-08 12:40 AM
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7. The Clinton narrative is already out there, good or bad |
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Obama will have an opportunity to shape his storyline if he doesn't take his eye off the ultimate goal. He won't be able to miss many chances to create his own story or the right wing echo machine will drive him into the ground. The MSM isn't going to tee it up for him like they did on the Muslim email during a debate. He will have to be on the attack and counter punch every time they take a swipe at him.
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Fri Feb-01-08 12:33 AM
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The GOP never had it so good as when Bill was President.
They built up the GOP machine off the hate of the Clintons they fostered in the 90's, and they believe having Hillary be the nominee in November would be a gift from God.
They wouldnt even mind Hillary winning (though they would prefer winning), as that gains them even more time to rebuild the machine they created when Bill was President.
Obama throws those plans into the trash, as they would be hard pressed to turn on their hate machine without rousing up racial issues, not to mention the public by in large likes Obama as a person.
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Fri Feb-01-08 01:12 AM
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10. without rousing racial issues? |
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thats how they even have power since Nixon! OF COURSE they will bring up racial issues. Listen to Limbaughs "Barack the Magic Negro". It wouldn't be so bad if he had a normal name, but his name is Barack Hussein Obama. They will bring up Rezko, and all the skeletons the PC media has let stay in his closet for now.
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Fri Feb-01-08 01:34 AM
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14. They will do that with ANY democrat |
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Why is this so hard to understand for folks, escapes me
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Fri Feb-01-08 08:11 AM
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the hate machine for the Clintons is established and in place.
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Fri Feb-01-08 12:36 AM
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4. This would be the same McCain who, it was revealed earlier tonight, tried to become a Dem |
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Fri Feb-01-08 12:37 AM
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5. Only if the entire electorate is male |
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Fri Feb-01-08 12:39 AM
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6. Yeah, and you're going to listen to Chuck Todd because he's a Republican. |
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Edited on Fri Feb-01-08 12:39 AM by MADem
That's called Bait N Switch.
They want Obama up against McCain because they think he's easiest to beat.
They are unsure that McCain could go after Clinton with claws out. He's mean, but in his older age, he is more gentlemanly than he was in his craven youth.
If Chuck Todd says look down, you'd better be looking up.
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Fri Feb-01-08 12:53 AM
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8. How do you know he's a Republican? |
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From what I remember, he's stated that he's managed campaigns for Democrats and even a Green Party candidate.
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MADem
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Fri Feb-01-08 12:56 AM
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9. Did you ever see his old webcasts at Hotline Scoop years ago? |
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He came off like he was slightly to the right of Attilla the Hun.
Perhaps Nahn Wun Wun changed EVER-THANG for him, too...
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Fri Feb-01-08 01:29 AM
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11. Yes, and I never got that impression |
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I'm sure he's said that he has managed campaigns for Democrats.
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MADem
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Fri Feb-01-08 01:43 AM
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15. Well, my mileage varies greatly. |
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Edited on Fri Feb-01-08 01:46 AM by MADem
Here's an example of his ability to shill like a carney barker: http://mediamatters.org/items/200705170007And another, which shows how well he serves his General Electric Masters: http://mediamatters.org/items/200707050011?f=s_searchI had to edit to add this gem, which takes the cake: http://mediamatters.org/items/200703300009?f=i_relatedSince joining NBC, Chuck Todd has had only good things to say about GOP
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Fri Feb-01-08 08:06 AM
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He used to the the republican viewpoint to counter the Democratic viewpoint up until about a year ago. He even discussed that both of his parents are republicans and, I want to say, I believe someone close to him has some position in the republic party.
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Fri Feb-01-08 11:33 AM
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he did not. And his opinion about this is widely shared. It's hardly a secret that the right hate the Clintons with a pathological and burning hatred or that Independents don't care for them either.
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Fri Feb-01-08 01:33 AM
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12. Yes, all those conservative Bu$h supporters are going to stampede to Obama... |
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...his liberal voting record and endorsement by Teddy Kennedy and being half-African won't matter in the least with this enlightened crowd.
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Fri Feb-01-08 09:31 AM
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26. Yea man, they will love him to death |
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And when the real racist attacks start from the RNC the media won't mention it.
Don
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Fri Feb-01-08 11:35 AM
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31. you completely miss the point. The right will be motivated to vote against |
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her in a way that's completely in a category of its own. socons hate McCain, but they hate her even more, and that will motivate them to get out and vote. If Obama is the nom, there's a much, much greater chance that they'll sit out the election. This is the conventional wisdom by virtually every political analyst out there.
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Fri Feb-01-08 01:33 AM
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13. I've had the distinct impression that the media |
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yes the media, has ensured that the Dems present the weakest possible candidate...
And yes, the media is playing king maker.
So whoever this person is... might be right.
As is, the most qualified or progressive were weeded out.
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Fri Feb-01-08 07:21 AM
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16. Way too early to tell. |
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Fri Feb-01-08 07:31 AM
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17. That's what I've been saying. |
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Nothing will unify the opposition like Hillary.
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Fri Feb-01-08 08:03 AM
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18. Hilliary would stomp on ole McLame this Fall no end. She will too if nom'd. |
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Many Pubs and the Media want Hillary outta the picture period.
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Fri Feb-01-08 08:21 AM
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21. Just the opposite - they've been pushing her on us for a year. |
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If I had a dime for every Republican I've heard make the comment Hillary will be the next president, I'd be rich. They're dying to run against her.
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Fri Feb-01-08 11:27 AM
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29. They pushed her until they realized "HORRORS!!!!" that people were getting USED to the idea of a |
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woman in office. They thought SHE was the weakest link. They didn't count on the "It would be nice for my daughter to see a woman President" theme coming from ...... MEN. Fathers and Grandfathers, who want to see their little princesses have a role model TOO.
Now, they are pushing Obama, because they are hoping that "Voting Booth Racism" will hold.
They perceive him as weaker than Clinton, and they believe that John "War Without End, AMEN" McCain is the man to keep GE/GOP/MSNBC well up there on the list of Top Ten Pentagon Contractors.
Follow the Money. Every time you see one of those PLAINLY GOP 'commentators' doing a fulsome praise-job on Obama, you ask yourself "Cui Bono?" Pay attention to the sly smile on their faces, too.
No matter who wins, I hope either candidate brings it and shoves it in their faces. But they ARE hoping for racism/sexism to rear its ugly head, and if it doesn't, don't be surprised if THEY help it along.
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Fri Feb-01-08 08:22 AM
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22. MODs: Shouldn't this be in GD:P, not the generic GD? |
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Fri Feb-01-08 08:28 AM
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23. Chuck Todd is the official GE hack |
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Skinner needs to devise a system so that we can put MSM hacks on ignore :D
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Fri Feb-01-08 08:37 AM
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24. Chuck Todd's WIFE works for McLame's campaign |
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what a blatant conflict of interests! Shame on MSNBC. :puke:
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Fri Feb-01-08 09:47 AM
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27. She probably holds the Copyright on the" McCain or Hussein?" bumpers stickers they are planning on |
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Edited on Fri Feb-01-08 09:49 AM by NNN0LHI
Obama would be McCain's dream opponent.
Hillary not so much. If McCain were to try his bully stuff on her Bill would be on that freak like white on rice. And when Bill talks people are listening. That is what terrifies the Repigs.
Don
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Fri Feb-01-08 09:22 AM
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My county is overall registered democrat but only because there is rarely a R on the local ballot. It is full of your typical phobes and fundamentalist Christians. That being said one of the heads of the local R party has stated she will be voting for Obama in the primary bc they feel he can beaten. Which I hate to say is probably true in our area, heck even state.
Now that Edwards is out I'm leaning for Obama but who knows by next Tuesday where I will be.
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Fri Feb-01-08 09:49 AM
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She is the one candidate who will breathe life into a demoralized Republic party. They hate McCain, but they hate HRC even more.
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Fri Feb-01-08 11:37 AM
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32. A no-brainer of a YES. |
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Fri Feb-01-08 11:38 AM
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Is awesome! The guy is a politics freak. I agree with him whole heartedly.
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