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Captain_Nemo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-02-08 06:21 PM Original message |
Please explain: Obama voted for Cheney's energy bill which gave money to oil companies |
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DesEtoiles (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-02-08 06:22 PM Response to Original message |
1. My mind is made up and nothing will change it now. |
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demo dutch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-02-08 06:29 PM Response to Reply #1 |
4. My mind has been made up and nothing will change my vote for Hillary |
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Captain_Nemo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-02-08 06:32 PM Response to Reply #1 |
6. Great! That's democracy! Don't let facts get in the way of your thinking! |
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SammyWinstonJack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-02-08 06:33 PM Response to Reply #6 |
7. ... |
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Kermitt Gribble (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-02-08 07:30 PM Response to Reply #1 |
34. Just keep your hands over your ears |
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BlackVelvet04 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-02-08 09:50 PM Response to Reply #1 |
56. Oh my God.... |
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shaniqua6392 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-02-08 06:23 PM Response to Original message |
2. I guess we will have to research that one. |
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BeatleBoot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-02-08 06:29 PM Response to Original message |
3. Links...please....links...... |
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demo dutch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-02-08 06:31 PM Response to Reply #3 |
5. Here's your link |
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BeatleBoot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-02-08 06:34 PM Response to Reply #5 |
8. What about the Rezko Nuclear Plants in Iraq - where's that link... |
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Captain_Nemo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-02-08 06:40 PM Response to Reply #8 |
16. Here it is:Rezmar Corp., a real estate development company entered into a joint venture with a Briti |
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BeatleBoot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-02-08 07:05 PM Response to Reply #16 |
31. The Trump Card is Rezko Building Nuclear Power Plants in Iraq |
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Captain_Nemo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-02-08 11:15 PM Response to Reply #31 |
69. Yes! And if I could figure this out don't you think the Repubs are basically building a database? |
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BigBearJohn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-03-08 06:13 AM Response to Reply #31 |
79. oh, but don't worry. The repubs would NEVER USE THAT against Obama if he is the nominee. |
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gasoline highway (109 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-02-08 11:36 PM Response to Reply #16 |
77. Jesus christ... |
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blm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-03-08 10:59 AM Response to Reply #8 |
85. WHERE'S BushInc's JAIL SENTENCE for BCCI matters that Bill Clinton deep-sixed |
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jasmine621 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-02-08 06:52 PM Response to Reply #3 |
23. Don't worry about the links to any of this. The Rethugs will have plenty of them |
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Captain_Nemo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-02-08 06:55 PM Response to Reply #23 |
26. She is the more difficult candidate for them to beat. They are hoping for Obama. |
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busymom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-02-08 06:34 PM Response to Original message |
9. Don't you know |
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REDFISHBLUEFISH (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-02-08 06:36 PM Response to Reply #9 |
12. Obama blindness syndrome. |
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BeatleBoot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-02-08 06:39 PM Response to Reply #12 |
15. OBS |
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busymom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-02-08 06:46 PM Response to Reply #15 |
20. Yep...who else does this remind you of? |
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REDFISHBLUEFISH (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-02-08 06:48 PM Response to Reply #20 |
21. Are OBS and Dubya Blindness syndrome related somehow? |
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Captain_Nemo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-02-08 06:56 PM Response to Reply #12 |
27. They guy just says the same shit over and over again.....I liked her answer on Iraq in the last |
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Captain_Nemo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-02-08 06:34 PM Response to Original message |
10. Here is a link to The Hill: |
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jillan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-02-08 06:35 PM Response to Original message |
11. You can tell it was a bad bill - look at those that voted NO |
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BeatleBoot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-02-08 06:37 PM Response to Reply #11 |
13. Obama voted Yes? |
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Captain_Nemo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-02-08 06:41 PM Response to Reply #13 |
17. he is unless people refuse to look at facts. |
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Captain_Nemo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-02-08 07:04 PM Response to Reply #11 |
29. excellent. |
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Levgreee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-02-08 06:37 PM Response to Original message |
14. Any bill would likely give money to oil companies they are a gigantic portion of our energy industry |
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Levgreee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-02-08 06:43 PM Response to Original message |
18. Here is Obama's explanation, straight from the horses mouth to judge |
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Bodhi BloodWave (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-02-08 06:45 PM Response to Reply #18 |
19. Thanks, you just spared me the time to finish looking that up :) n/t |
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Captain_Nemo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-02-08 06:50 PM Response to Reply #18 |
22. It was a giveaway to big oil and Hillary voted no. She knew it was a giveaway. |
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Levgreee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-02-08 06:53 PM Response to Reply #22 |
24. You said he voted for it because of nuclear energy and you were wrong, why should I listen to you? |
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Captain_Nemo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-02-08 06:55 PM Response to Reply #24 |
25. He said in the debate he voted for it because of nuclear energy. I heard him say it. |
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Evergreen Emerald (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-02-08 07:03 PM Response to Reply #25 |
28. I remember him saying that in the debate. |
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Mass (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-02-08 07:43 PM Response to Reply #28 |
43. Quote please. |
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Evergreen Emerald (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-02-08 07:47 PM Response to Reply #43 |
45. well, I saw the debate, and heard the response, but if you are really interested |
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Mass (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-02-08 07:52 PM Response to Reply #45 |
47. Here - Now tell me where he said he voted for it because of the nuclear? |
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Captain_Nemo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-02-08 11:11 PM Response to Reply #47 |
65. Now let's look at Rezko's company Rezmar building a nuclear power plant in Iraq in 2005 |
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Mass (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-03-08 10:23 AM Response to Reply #65 |
82. Continue changing the argument and you will look more credible. |
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Captain_Nemo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-02-08 11:29 PM Response to Reply #47 |
76. here |
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Mass (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-03-08 10:22 AM Response to Reply #76 |
81. Where does it say he voted for it because of the nuclear energy. Read what you posted. |
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Captain_Nemo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-03-08 01:15 PM Response to Reply #81 |
86. He tried slithering out of it but here it is..he's a politician, remember. And he voted for a shitty |
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Marie26 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-03-08 10:55 AM Response to Reply #76 |
84. Looks like he didn't say that |
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Captain_Nemo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-03-08 01:16 PM Response to Reply #84 |
87. She is more qualified: listern to her voice. |
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Captain_Nemo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-02-08 11:03 PM Response to Reply #43 |
63. OK, Ill google it for you. But, if you don't know this then you need to read more about |
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Captain_Nemo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-02-08 11:08 PM Response to Reply #63 |
64. For the ones who don't want to google the Las Vegas debate to see Obama's quote: |
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Marie26 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-02-08 07:04 PM Response to Reply #25 |
30. He was probably telling the truth |
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Captain_Nemo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-02-08 07:08 PM Response to Reply #30 |
32. I hope the Obama people really think hard about voting for their pretty face. |
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Marie26 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-02-08 07:31 PM Response to Reply #32 |
36. And here's the payoff |
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Evergreen Emerald (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-02-08 08:07 PM Response to Reply #36 |
50. wikipedia can be changed by anyone. Do not use that as a reliable source. |
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Marie26 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-02-08 08:10 PM Response to Reply #50 |
51. Fine |
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Captain_Nemo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-02-08 09:42 PM Response to Reply #51 |
54. Couple this with Rezko's partnering with a British company to build a nuclear power plant in Iraq |
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BootinUp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-02-08 09:47 PM Response to Reply #25 |
55. Partial Nevada debate transcript |
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Mass (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-03-08 10:24 AM Response to Reply #55 |
83. Well, you make it clear that the person you are answering to is lying. |
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BeatleBoot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-02-08 07:22 PM Response to Original message |
33. HE LOVES BIG OIL - THAT'S WHY |
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Blarch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-02-08 07:34 PM Response to Reply #33 |
39. Jeeeesh. |
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BeatleBoot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-02-08 08:36 PM Response to Reply #39 |
52. No, But Obama Voting for a $25 Billion Subsidy to Big Oil |
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Kermitt Gribble (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-02-08 07:31 PM Response to Original message |
35. Sadly |
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Mass (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-02-08 07:33 PM Response to Reply #35 |
38. Could it be they already knew that and that, in balance, they still find Obama better than Clinton.. |
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Kermitt Gribble (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-02-08 07:43 PM Response to Reply #38 |
42. No. |
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Mass (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-02-08 07:44 PM Response to Reply #42 |
44. Really. You know so much. I am impressed. Sorry, but I was supporting Obama for a while. |
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Kermitt Gribble (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-02-08 10:47 PM Response to Reply #44 |
60. I didn't |
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calmblueocean (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-02-08 07:49 PM Response to Reply #35 |
46. Oh, FFS. I don't believe for a second you read this bill. |
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Kermitt Gribble (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-02-08 11:22 PM Response to Reply #46 |
74. Good to see |
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calmblueocean (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-03-08 12:34 AM Response to Reply #74 |
78. Obamanian? |
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Kermitt Gribble (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-03-08 09:49 AM Response to Reply #78 |
80. Fair enough. |
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Mass (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-02-08 07:33 PM Response to Original message |
37. It is a vote I disagree with. I can tell you why he voted for it though, as did many senators from |
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jillan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-02-08 07:35 PM Response to Reply #37 |
40. Feingold voted against it. Wisconsin is definitely in the midwest. |
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Mass (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-02-08 07:38 PM Response to Reply #40 |
41. As I said, I disagree with this bill, but I will never be single issue. My choice is a balance just |
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jackson_dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-02-08 07:57 PM Response to Original message |
48. Obamites refuse to acknowledge St. Obama has a record and it too is not perfect |
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Mass (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-02-08 07:58 PM Response to Reply #48 |
49. No, most of us do. They just prefer Obama to Clinton. |
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BeatleBoot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-02-08 08:38 PM Response to Reply #49 |
53. Because of some other trait. Something other than their voting record. |
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Mass (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-02-08 10:47 PM Response to Reply #53 |
61. Sure, because of the voting record also. And interestingly, my two senators support him and not her. |
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BlackVelvet04 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-02-08 09:52 PM Response to Reply #49 |
57. It's the ponies, isn't it? n/t |
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Mass (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-02-08 10:44 PM Response to Reply #57 |
59. No, It is about knowing about them, what they did in the past and how they see government. |
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Captain_Nemo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-02-08 11:15 PM Response to Reply #48 |
70. nuclear power plants in Iraq, good god. |
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Abacus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-02-08 09:54 PM Response to Original message |
58. Wrong. |
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Captain_Nemo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-02-08 11:13 PM Response to Reply #58 |
67. This is n"t about Hillary. Look who voted NO on this thing. |
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dionysus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-02-08 10:51 PM Response to Original message |
62. Rezko has his own nuclear plant? in IRAQ?!?! |
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Renew Deal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-02-08 11:12 PM Response to Original message |
66. That bill put more hybrids on the road than any legislation in history. |
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Captain_Nemo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-02-08 11:14 PM Response to Reply #66 |
68. The point is this: Obama isn't into change so much and he is the least experienced. Goddess help us. |
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Renew Deal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-02-08 11:16 PM Response to Reply #68 |
71. I think you proved yourself wrong. |
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Captain_Nemo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-02-08 11:17 PM Response to Reply #71 |
72. it was a giveaway to big oil. |
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Renew Deal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-02-08 11:20 PM Response to Reply #72 |
73. Who wholly |
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Captain_Nemo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-02-08 11:26 PM Response to Reply #73 |
75. Oil and Gas subsidies - 6 Billion. :article on Obama's energy bill that he voted on |
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